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Explain arcteryx jackets to me. (and others in general)

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yungskigga
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So if they are both shell jackets with no insulation why are the sabre and rush jackets that cost 900 and 750 respectively considered skiing jackets but the beta jacket that costs 400 is for "hiking and trekking"...
Oct 30 2023 3:50AM
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migidimigi
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Sabre has Goretex pro and Rush has Gore tex most rugged which are thicker and more durable fabrics than the "basic" goretex beta jacket uses. Also the cut and features are different making the beta more usable for everyday use. You can ski in beta ofc but it's not designed to be just a skiing jacket like the sabre & rush are.

If you go do multi-day backcountry adventures with climbing and stuff the super expensive jacket might make sense for you but for resort skiing having which ever wind & waterproof jacket you like is more than enough.

It's the same as pivot18, if you need to ask, you probably don't need them.
Oct 30 2023 4:46AM
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yungskigga
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migidimigiSabre has Goretex pro and Rush has Gore tex most rugged which are thicker and more durable fabrics than the "basic" goretex beta jacket uses. Also the cut and features are different making the beta more usable for everyday use. You can ski in beta ofc but it's not designed to be just a skiing jacket like the sabre & rush are.

If you go do multi-day backcountry adventures with climbing and stuff the super expensive jacket might make sense for you but for resort skiing having which ever wind & waterproof jacket you like is more than enough.

It's the same as pivot18, if you need to ask, you probably don't need them.


what about Beta AR. Would you classify that as a ski jacket?
Oct 30 2023 7:17AM
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migidimigi
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yungskiggawhat about Beta AR. Would you classify that as a ski jacket?


Arcteryx does not because of cut&features (less roomy cut, shorter hem, no snow-gaiter, less internal pockets), but it has the goretex pro so it should be more durable than the base model.
I would 100% ski in beta ar if I had the money for it because I don't need to stay dry for 2 days in a rain or have nipple-deep powder to ski.
I guess it mostly comes down to the fit you are looking for and the money you are willing to pay.
Oct 30 2023 7:25AM
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BallClapper
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Oct 30 2023 1:06PM
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cali_invader
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The Sabre LT from a few years back is still my go-to resort shell. Thing is bomb-proof.

Also Rush = GoreTex Pro, Sabre = GoreTex. Sabre SV = GoreTex Pro Most Rugged. Only real advantage of Pro is breathability if you're touring. Both will keep you equally dry.

**This post was edited on Oct 30th 2023 at 4:49:13pm
Oct 30 2023 4:47PM
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steve0
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Beta Doesn't have a have a pow skirt.

Sabre has pockets that are easy access on a lift and with gloves on.

Beta has pockets easy to access when you have a backpack on.
Oct 30 2023 4:48PM
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Grom
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So would the Alpha work for skiing in the same way that the Sabre and Rush do, even though it is classified for alpine climbing?

https://arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/mens/alpha-jacket

Do not love any of the rush or sabre colors right now.
Oct 30 2023 5:54PM
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steve0
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Yeah of course it would "work", but not as well. Alpha doesn't have a pow skirt either. The sabre also has interior goggle pockets . look at the images of the interior of the jackets. That's the big difference.
Oct 30 2023 6:33PM
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PacificRimJob
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GromSo would the Alpha work for skiing in the same way that the Sabre and Rush do, even though it is classified for alpine climbing?

https://arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/mens/alpha-jacket

Do not love any of the rush or sabre colors right now.


The Alpha would work, but it's made with a much denser face fabric, and has a much different - shorter cut than the others.
Oct 30 2023 7:37PM
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PacificRimJob
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I used to have the sabre - which had dense face fabric, a longer cut for skiing, yet no powder skirt. It was built-ford-tough and really worked well. I sold it after a few years when I got my new set, which is called the 'Sphene' and it's specifically made for backcountry skiing, so comes with a really minor powder skirt, and a lighter face fabric.

The big thing with Arcteryx is that the cuts, and face fabrics are all matched to their intended usage.
Oct 30 2023 7:40PM
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