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Oh yea and.... fuck windells

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eastAR5
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i just got a call from my boy dan and Tim windell is officially the biggest douchebag ever and fired the entire video crew for apparently no legit reason at all suddenly, besides more profit for him. 6 years of dedication with bearly and pay for thousands of hours of hard work every summer and its just done like that.. He just fucked over my friends lives at least temporarily and the chillest Boss I have ever had, is now unemployed with bills and rent piling up and will probably have to move. Banned from windells park and campus , summer ruined for all the filmers who now need to find a way to get home and will loose hundreds of dollars. The only reason I am not in the same situation is cause i broke my cam and had to take this summer off. Anyways respect to everyone who chose not to support this guy and attend other summer camps that still have some morals
Jun 13 2008 4:28PM
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Karcher
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i want sammy to get his camp going. that would be way sick to go to
Jun 13 2008 4:49PM
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papasteeze
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Whats the real story? 
Jun 13 2008 5:30PM
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marc_sncl
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can you write that so one will understand?
Jun 13 2008 5:37PM
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Faggghkxd
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why did they get fired?
Jun 13 2008 5:40PM
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sirskizalot
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are you sure you're telling us the whole thing

if not thats really shitty
Jun 13 2008 5:44PM
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Calb3rt
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mythreads!
Jun 13 2008 5:45PM
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aja_kiki
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maybe the owner was losing money...and couldnt afford the video guys anymore...although this sounds pretty shitty...people do get laid off everywhere...


Jun 13 2008 5:46PM
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keystoneandbone
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wait is this the video crew at windells that like will follow u around if u pay a grand, becuase if it is i would understand why u guys got let go
Jun 13 2008 6:01PM
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jKutcher
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obviously something more happened if the kids were BANNED.  No one just randomly bans someone from a park after they have worked for you.
Jun 13 2008 6:06PM
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skodeo7
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Yeah seriously
Jun 13 2008 6:07PM
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papasteeze
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I could message you but thought to post in the public.  I don't like this type of muck raking especially by a highly rated karma person at an organization that provides something so sick as a summer camp.  negative karma or delete thread until the facts are posted?  Or both?
Jun 13 2008 6:21PM
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crooks
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^ wtf negative karma? for what?.. thats such a gay thing to do in fucking june.. they should have atleast given them a few weeks heads up, now theyre whole summer is fucked.
Jun 13 2008 6:27PM
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papasteeze
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Because  there are always 2 sides to the story and I'll bet substantially that the truth is far from a blatant firing with no cause.  

I doubt they were even hired in the first place. I don't know, but I am really curious now though.  naaaaaa.....  I bet there was some type of presumptive entitlement type of attitude" going on, very similar to the "tone" of the first post in this thread.
Jun 13 2008 6:34PM
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TWoods
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Whole story please.
Jun 13 2008 6:36PM
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grifter
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I reserve Judgment until I get both sides, but I really want to know what went down.. (mythreads + PM me if you hear anything)
Jun 13 2008 6:39PM
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eastAR5
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wtf are you talking about..... not hired in the first place? um who do you think does all the camp videos and session videos and camper DVDs every summer? As far as i know Tim was in a bad mood just came down to the weekly session video premier and got pissed that they were being sold for $15 (as they always have) which doesnt make any sense...and then called Eric into a meeting and fired the whole crew. I havent talked to him yet but thats what i know


Jun 13 2008 6:44PM
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Shadows
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oh, ok haha
Jun 13 2008 6:45PM
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eastAR5
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you apparently don't know the head of the windells park crew.... i almost got punched in the face when he didn't recognize me and thought i was 'poaching his terrain' cause i was wearing different shit
Jun 13 2008 6:46PM
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eastAR5
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oh word?... with MTV at camp this summer and endorsements from the biggest skate and snow sponsors and the most expensive session prices.... riiiight im sure he is struggling
Jun 13 2008 6:48PM
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smuggs
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well there you go he doesnt need amateur filmers around if mtv is going to be there all summer.

people get laid off of every job imaginable. im sure the camper numbers will be down this year.
Jun 13 2008 6:54PM
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papasteeze
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I don't know who does them at Windells.  Ahhhhviously someone did royally cross the proverbial line. 

Get the accurate story. Cause if what you are saying is true.  I will be the first to post a huge apology, but I'm sorry.  It doesn't add up especially if this was a long standing employees.
Jun 13 2008 6:54PM
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eastAR5
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haha you think some MTV fags can slide kinked rails and hit all the tables with camera in hand still ger shot everytime? ya right
Jun 13 2008 6:56PM
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eastAR5
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aight im gona make a call and find out more details



its definitely something i can see Tim doing , im not even that suprised
Jun 13 2008 7:02PM
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-eat
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^I agree that tim is an ass hole, he has no respect for skiers/ the skiing part of the camp what so ever. but tons of shenanigans do go on at windells. ex. last year the grenade guys got drunk/ high and grafited the burton van. tim had them arrested.
Jun 13 2008 7:08PM
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Clifford996
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regardless of what actually happened,

you dont know how to write, i could barely understand a word you were saying
Jun 13 2008 7:14PM
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Ahmets_Brother
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Ive heard things such as they didnt have enough money for the windell's intern to get a lift pass? and i guess none of the ride liners (Line is apparantly a "generous" sponsor of windell's? as they say) could get a hookup to ski there....? My emails and talks with managers havent been successful in trying to find a spot to practice this summer
Jun 13 2008 7:19PM
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eastAR5
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actually every english teacher i have ever had has told me i am unusually advanced at writing, punctuation and sentence structure i just dont find it necessary to use that ability on an internet discussion board....
Jun 13 2008 7:31PM
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eastAR5
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hah yup they didnt pay for a single ticket or pass all summer when i interned for free 7 days a week all summer waking up at 6am hiking in 70 degrees with a vx and tripod and skis until the lifts closed everyday
Jun 13 2008 7:34PM
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Static
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rail slide follow cams are the sickest
Jun 13 2008 7:35PM
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smuggs
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the cost of living is on the rise. the cost of driving a snowcat is rediculous. sucks that he wont hook up line riders but they have like a million unknowns and if everyone of them showed up they would be taking alot of room away from the people who paid a ton of cash to be there. i garuntee they give pollard tickets...but to have the attitude of im going to go here for free because im a good skier is silly and you shouldnt count on that.

being an intern is your own stupid fault. its the worst job a human could have. even in prison you get paid for your work.
Jun 13 2008 7:50PM
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3ski6guy0
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Jun 13 2008 7:50PM
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eastAR5
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you're reallly gona get far in life.....
Jun 13 2008 7:57PM
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BEARS.
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he had to have some reason.
Jun 13 2008 7:58PM
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ColbyV
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honestly threads like this piss me off, just once it would be nice for someone to do some research before making a thread so that there is no debate of its validity and people will get behind your claim instead of having an argument about whether or not it is true... then again i guess this is what makes NS so interesting especially in the summer
Jun 13 2008 8:30PM
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R.Fahey
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hahahah.  you said Ride Liners. 
shitty though.  Tim sounds not so cool. 
Jun 13 2008 8:47PM
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TWoods
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In my experience, Tim can def. be a jerk. however, I still think there's more to this story.
Jun 13 2008 8:55PM
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R.Fahey
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Ehh, I kinda disagree.   Having a few good kids shred around the camp shouldn't be a huge deal.  When I was there last year I was hitting the big table, and it was just me, and one other camper.  The coaches weren't even helping him.... just sitting at the bottom and saying things after he went.  No one around him to get him stoked or offer pointers before dropping.  And, a good portion of the time that good skiers go there they film.  It's almost like free advertising.  It doesn't take anything away from the campers.  That one 4bi9 hyphy edit last year has over 150,000 views on youtube.  Had Travis let them into Windells, that would be 150,000 views of Windells terrain.  The 5 people skiing in that edit wouldn't take much away from the other campers. 
Jun 13 2008 8:57PM
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R.Fahey
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Sorry John... I misread your post.  To have all of the unknowns or Line team would be absurd... but just a few kids here and there shouldn't be to big of a problem.
Jun 13 2008 8:59PM
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theoz
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finally some one that knows whats up... its a forum hwo cares about punctuation and sentence structure
Jun 13 2008 9:41PM
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eastAR5
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honestly stupid responses like this piss me off cause you have no idea what you are talking about. This effects me cause its MY JOB that i wont have next year... and my friends situation right now.
Jun 13 2008 9:42PM
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eastAR5
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travis is chill for the most part though.... it's his acquaintances that aren't
Jun 13 2008 9:44PM
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sltkid
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oops, typing too faast.. lots of typo's;

I agree and know first hand about what eastAR5$ is takling about.  more then 70% of return employees and long term staff left this year on their own doing or the owners firing spree. Its all about the $$... he's a business man and its about the bottom line in his eyes. he doesnt care that ALL his main staff and emloyees of 5-9yrs left if he can find someone to do the job cheaper reguardless of peoduct he will. HE IS TRYING TO SELL THE CAMP>>> ITS ON THE MARKET! so he's tryin to pad his pockets as much as possible this summer.  Not only did he lose his video staff, but lost his head ski coach of 10yrs, head snowboard coach of 8yrs, Park manager of 9yrs ( He built the best park windells has seen in more then 6 years last summer), his Adult program manager ( the guy thats runs all the 18+ stuff) also his camp director and interns.... so its not do to the jobs they were doing cause he had a record season profit last year and a record snow year this year!!  It comes down to $$ and the bottom line... thats it!  I know because alot of the ppl i know work there still or did work there and I did (was going to be my 1st year) but Tim did the same to my boss... agrees on a price with him on his wages and ours then flaked out because he wanted to save $$ and my boss said no deal and stuck to his guns! ( good work!!)  now we all had to try to get our houses back and jobs back for the summer... some of us werent and are living on friends couches do to his penny pinching and greed, not our boss's fault. He actually did his best to take good care of us and make sure Tim wasnt screwing us over like he has to ppl in the past.  The result of his penny pinching just with my boss and our crew... Session 1 = NO PARK!!!  all the campers that paid 1800$ to be coached in a sick PRIVATE park got to ride the public park with everyone else...  how would YOU feel if it was ur 1800$  So my advice is... well i would say the same thing as eastAR5$
Support the camps that care about their staff... because the staff is what makes CAMP!!

THESE ARE TRUE FACTS AND ARE FROM ALL THE HEAD PPL tTHAT WORKED AND PPL STILL WORKING FOR THE CAMP> 
ANyone else that disagree's is probably someone that is on TIMS payroll that is sucking at the power tit!!  SO GO SUCK IT!!
Jun 13 2008 9:54PM
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laurence^
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^^^ well lol im convinced since he wrote in caps but for serious if this is true then this is weak as fuck
on the other hand, im kind of stupid that things like "delete a post" and "remove a thread" are being thrown around this easily, dude has the right to make a thread about anything really besides with porn and racism...so mods just lay off a bit..if this isnt true then let the uproar begin but let the thread survive...freedom of speech
Jun 13 2008 10:08PM
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laurence^
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the beginning of my post is about the dude with 0 karma posting above me
Jun 13 2008 10:09PM
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Parker.
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sounds like an accurate story now.  and what he was saying is true
Jun 13 2008 10:14PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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fuck that sucks.
Jun 13 2008 10:17PM
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SteezyMcDizzle
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some of you obviously dont know how unstable resort/camp jobs can be...i definitely believe that story, being at hood all winter and hearing about windells and hcsc
Jun 13 2008 10:23PM
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papasteeze
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Thats why I left it up, to get more information.  Typically where there is smoke there is fire.  no doubt.




as far free speech and having a right - please don't play that card..  it doesn't apply here.
Jun 13 2008 10:23PM
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nealpgards
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i remember when i used to go to high cascade our group poached the windells boardercross course, it ruled! they got so pissed (understandable though)
Jun 13 2008 10:24PM
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jimmer
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word. i had to work my ass off to go to windells (just got back from sesh 1.)  we did not even go near windells park, we just hit up the public park. day 1 there wasn't even a decent public park, we seshed one 2 foot wide flat box. we basically only got 3 days of legit skiing, and i paid for six.
Jun 13 2008 10:25PM
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