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Why not to Poach a Closed Park

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MacMahoooon
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Repost Yes, but this is in retaliation to why we as patrollers get so pissed when you poach closed parks and run.  Theres usually a reason for it. This guy got lucky.

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Mar 28 2008 11:52AM
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Astomp
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ha hah holy fuck
Mar 28 2008 11:55AM
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freestyler540
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lucky indeed. Rules are there for a reason
Mar 28 2008 12:00PM
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sarahskis
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Well that realllllllllly sucks.  Im on patrol too, and cooperating is so much easier for everybody
Mar 28 2008 12:00PM
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yellav
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!!!
Mar 28 2008 12:01PM
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jKutcher
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that was absolutely ridiculous
Mar 28 2008 12:03PM
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MacMahoooon
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was about 30min before I got to work that night. They let the guy go cause he was so freaked out he could barely walk after that. I'm just glad I didn't have to clean it up if it went worse
Mar 28 2008 12:05PM
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sarahskis
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I'd very nearly shit my pants.  Where is this?
Mar 28 2008 12:05PM
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MacMahoooon
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Edelweiss Valley, just outside Ottawa, Canada.

The conditions were solid too from a thaw/freeze the night before, groomer was trying to track it out enough to get the tiller into it and soften it up. No idea why the guy thought it was a good idea to poach it
Mar 28 2008 12:09PM
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sarahskis
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We had someone around here at Camelback that poached a trail and ended up hitting a tree.  Concussion, massive internal trauma, and got up and wandered into the woods.  He was found the next day dead, he bled out.  Sucks, but you can't go making stupid calls like that
Mar 28 2008 12:16PM
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heFF
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to bad he fell what a bitch
Mar 28 2008 12:24PM
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BEARS.
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does this remind anyone of mtn lab 1.5?
Mar 28 2008 12:40PM
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yellav
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if he jibbed the cat and landed yes
Mar 28 2008 12:43PM
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skithebert
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why was that caught on film?
Mar 28 2008 12:48PM
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-dAvE-
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i was just thinking that same thing.. haha!! so random that they would be filmin this.. ne ways.. this guy was really lucky!!!
Mar 28 2008 12:54PM
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bikerocker
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search bar?
Mar 28 2008 12:57PM
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SteevJee
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Epic!!!!
Mar 28 2008 1:12PM
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ParkCity
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and to add to this thread, and something i've been using this season to give an example of why the industry insurance rates keep climbing, you've got this guy, and thousands like him at every resort that can't make decisions for themselves, or make the right decisions...


Mar 28 2008 1:37PM
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IrideWI
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ive seen someone hit by a snowcat at my local hill, that shits rediculous. When the park is closed, its usually for a good reason, give the park crew a break and let them finish working before all of their hard work is ruined
Mar 28 2008 1:38PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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Video is fake...notice the guy doesn't even look back after he lands...
Mar 28 2008 2:08PM
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Coalescent
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i am the event coordinator at my local mountain along with a park and pipe crew member and i can recall countless times when we close a feature to fix the take off or bombholes and almost get our heads chopped off by people hitting the corner of the lip as a jump..I also remember a kind going off a closed feature to find a big whole behind it where the rail used to be..death cookie central haha...it made my day...
Mar 28 2008 2:11PM
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papasteeze
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when was that?
Mar 28 2008 2:19PM
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Lineskiah11
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wow that would have been so bad i cant even imagine. i dont understand why someone would poach the park like that. i mean i could see like if the lower part was closed for a comp and people were hiking a rail... but not that
Mar 28 2008 3:15PM
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AhrenStein
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You shouldn't say poaching period is stupid because i do it all the time if its safe. Call me crazy but poaching can be done safely. I always check something out before i hit it if its closed off. I guess i only really ever poach because in Ontario jumps are often closed for no reason.
I see where your coming from for the ski patrol though. That guy was also a complete retard, how can you not notice theirs a fucking cat on the landing?
Mar 28 2008 3:51PM
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ginger-steez
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wow that kid is an idiot, but he obviously wanted to hit that jump really bad and he is gay also i heard
Mar 28 2008 3:59PM
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Coalescent
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just like you cant see little noobs in the landing..thats a huge landing..but yeah hes an idiot
Mar 28 2008 4:21PM
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Tucks
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wow that is crazy
Mar 28 2008 4:44PM
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Aenigma
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That may work where you are, but poaching out here can get you killed.  Literally. 

It's not that hard to respect closures, just go find something else to do.  Patrol/park crew/management/whatever isn't going to take the time to rope off a section of the mountain just for fun, there has to be a good reason to put forth that much work to keep people out of an area. 
Mar 28 2008 4:48PM
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Avifarer
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the cat driver was?
Mar 28 2008 4:48PM
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gkenworthy
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Oh my god.
Mar 28 2008 4:59PM
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AhrenStein
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Yeah, i definitely respect the mountain a lot more when i go out west. Where i live there really is no serious natural danger. The patrol in southern ontario really is horrible. Many of them can barely ski, its insane.

I see where your coming from if your talking about out west though. Shit really is crazy.
Mar 28 2008 5:09PM
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Yauch
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sick!!!!
Mar 28 2008 5:15PM
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rossiskier93
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already posted
Mar 28 2008 5:25PM
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Malcolm
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that guys such an idiot. they closed the park for a reason
Mar 28 2008 5:31PM
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*WonderBread*
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jeeze crazy freakin grommer guy
holy ship that was pretty intence
Mar 28 2008 6:35PM
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Mr.LemonPie
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Anybody realize how fake this is? It is just like how fatman did the jumps in his edit, one clip on top of the other, the guy would not ride away from something like that especially if he was 'To scared to walk' and in the other thread the guy didn't mention ever getting stopped by patrol...
Mar 28 2008 7:53PM
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sirskizalot
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if thats real that guy is soooo lucky

Mar 28 2008 8:51PM
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Mr.May
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fuck. its shit like this that tells you why RCR has no fucking jumps and a shitty park
Mar 28 2008 8:58PM
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OOHapieceofcandy
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Noo, it's not a fake vid, this went down for sure at edelweiss.
Mar 28 2008 9:05PM
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mistaskia
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I think hes talking about the guy that hit the jump.  I dont see why you feel the need to hit it that bad.  guy is fucking lucky.
Mar 28 2008 9:11PM
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tomalom
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would have been sick if he had landed it
Mar 28 2008 11:42PM
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huckaberry
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wow crazy very lucky dude
could have ended bad...
Mar 29 2008 1:49AM
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Flarestrike
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The dude didn't even stop to look at what was happening on the landing, what an idiot...

...you should always check ur landing before going for a jump, last year i woulda taken out like 5 snowboarders if i didn't, they were all just lazing about on the landing.

A canadian guy that used to work at the shop i'm at told me about a dude he knows that went over a jump and a snowboarder was sitting below it, the dudewas spinning in the air and clipped the boarders bingind...broke it in half...

anyway that's my 5 cents
Mar 29 2008 2:11AM
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flatspinner
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After working at a resort for a year, I am 100% agree that following the rules is so much better for everyone. There is almost always a reason that the rules are in place, and it's not some kind of "submit to authority" thing...the rules are usually there to keep people safe.
Mar 29 2008 4:47AM
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willbski9
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This happened at my home mountain aswell. some marine poached the closed park his last day before deployment to iraq and went off a decent table and smashed into the cat that was grooming, breaking his femur. The guy is suing now for tens of thousands.

My family is good friends with the owner of the mountain and he thinks the accident saved the marines life since he wont be deployed back to Iraq any time soon because of the injury.
Mar 29 2008 9:19AM
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Federation
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It mite be fake.
Mar 29 2008 9:25AM
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pmills
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Did you fail to notice that MacMahoooon works at the mountain?
Mar 29 2008 9:31AM
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Craigskis
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I ski at Edelweiss valley, I had no clue that video was EV. That jump is completely blind when you hit it, the jump itself is on top of a knoll where the pitch of the slope changes for the landing, it's a really hard jump to judge speed on because 1/2 the time you'll either overshoot or undershoot, whence my broken wrist.
Mar 29 2008 9:51AM
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bobs
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I know this is a serious thread....... and i couldnt agree more kids get all bum hurt at our mt cause rangers mark stuff off when its icy. there's reasons for it and its usually in your best interest.

but this thread reminded me of.........


Mar 29 2008 11:06AM
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Carrphotography
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One time at Holiday Valley in NY, I kept hitting the pipe, and riding the lift each time. Well the last time, they had closed the pipe from one of the entrances, not the entrance that I was going through, so I had no idea it was "closed". It was just a big trap! There were a bunch of lame "safety patrollers" waiting at the bottom by the lift for people that went into the pipe (from the side that was clearly not marked as closed). I couldn't believe it. They took my pass, and I was scared because I was an instructor there at the time. If it had been more uphill, I probably would have skied away, those guys can barely ski. When I went to meet with my supervisor the next day about getting my pass back, he basically handed it back to me and was like "yea that was a bunch of bullshit".

I respect closures completely, but if things are going to be closed they need to make it clear! And not just make it a trap.
Mar 29 2008 11:58AM
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Yosh
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gezzzzzzz he got lucky !
Mar 29 2008 12:08PM
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