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"Is Salvia the Next Marijuana?"

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KRASHED
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dumb title, but it's from the article...

http://news.aol.com/health/story/_a/is-salvia-the-next-marijuana/20080311163509990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001


To be honest I think i've heard of one or two people in my entire lifetime trying this shit and they only used the 10x which apparently didn't do much. Discuss
Mar 12 2008 9:55AM
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pmills
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No, Doblin is right.

Among those who believe the commotion over the drug is overblown is Rick Doblin of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies, a nonprofit group that does research on psychedelic drugs and whose goal is to develop psychedelics and marijuana into prescription medication.

"I think the move to criminalize is a misguided response to a very minimal problem," Doblin said.

Doblin said salvia isn't "a party drug," "tastes terrible" and is "not going to be extremely popular." He disputes the fact teens are its main users and says older users are more likely.

"It's a minor drug in the world of psychedelics," he said.
Mar 12 2008 10:04AM
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Ryno
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It only last for 5 minutes or so. you can watch videos on youtube of people doing it.

I can see them banning it though...kinda like how LSD worked in the 1960's. Gov't hates that shit.


The next pot though...not.
Mar 12 2008 10:07AM
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eastAR5
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umm obviously not... salvia sucks, has very little recreational value


everyone loves weed..
Mar 12 2008 10:30AM
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beer.
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so true.  if there were better community centers I bet young people wouldn't use drugs so much.  if there was an indoor ski slope (they exist, its a sort of spinning disc and you ride the edge) or a wave pool I would be all over that.  or go-karts or minigolf, frisbee golf, etc.  actually lots of things.  i mean basketball courts are fine but not everyone likes basketball.

anyways, they can go ahead and criminalize salvia, I don't really care.  its stupid though.
Mar 12 2008 11:34AM
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nathanielstyza
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salv will never be as good as buds....it lasts for such a short period of time and unless u get very potent the trip seems somewhat uncomfortable to me. even when done in comfortable situations......its fun for a couple of times but it certainly gets old.
Mar 12 2008 12:23PM
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hotdog.garbage
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http://www.google.com/trends?q=salvia
Mar 12 2008 12:27PM
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dave44
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me loves go karting and wave pools.


“An experienced salvia user who is chewing a quid, may often choose to do it alone, and may be quite safe in doing so. But having a pleasant, sensible, sober sitter is an absolute must if you are trying vaporization, smoking high doses of extract-enhanced leaves, or using pure salvinorin.”

“Salvia is not ‘fun’ in the way that alcohol or cannabis can be. If you try to party with salvia you probably will not have a good experience. Salvia is a consciousness-changing herb that can be used in a vision quest, or in a healing ritual. In the right setting, salvia makes it possible to see visions. It is an herb with a long tradition of sacred use. It is useful for deep meditation. It is best taken in a quiet, nearly dark room; either alone, or with one or two good friends present.”
Mar 12 2008 12:36PM
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BobYohan
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noone who's tried salvia would even dream of asking that question.  very VERY few people find it enjoyable enough to do often, it's an intense and interesting experience but definitely not fun/recreational. a whole lot of people hate their first time and never do it again.
Mar 12 2008 1:09PM
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Benedetto.
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i read that in the newspaper this morning and its kind of lame. salvia sucked ass when i did it when i was like 15. and i did it like 3 times. everytime was stupid
Mar 12 2008 1:18PM
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emopoppins
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thats the best solution they can come up with? make it illegal and give it prison time for something you can't overdose on, is hard to sell, and there's no market for other than in headshops, not to mention its a joke.

fuck politicians who dont know anything.
Mar 12 2008 1:28PM
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BobYohan
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but i will say this in support of criminalizaition:  the first time i did it I got in my car to drive 10-15 minutes after the trip had ended, or so i thought. even though i felt completely normal and sober i could tell i was driving like shit, much worse than if i were stoned. it was kinda dangerous and i didnt expect that to happen at all. so kids dont go operating heavy machinery just cuz ur vision is back to normal
Mar 12 2008 1:32PM
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Benedetto.
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same shit happen to me when i did it one random time. i also felt mad dirty and itcy. shit is real corny
Mar 12 2008 1:36PM
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Nicholas.
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i dont care what anyone says smoking loose salvia (not the extract) gives you a cool ass high very similar to weed and it just lasts about ten minutes. i liked it when i did it.
Mar 12 2008 1:41PM
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Elijah.
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Shits gay. It's kind of blown up at my school going from the stoners to the popular kids, and now everyone wants to do it. I'm sure everyone thinks it'll just be a great 15 minutes, they don't realize it isn't a fun trip...
Mar 12 2008 1:44PM
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Mat.
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weed is 10,000 times better than that crap.
Mar 12 2008 1:49PM
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kepler.
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That's a problem with any drug though, people don't know what they are getting into. People just think it's cool and want to do it so people will think they are cool. I've never tried salvia but I'm open to it. I would definitely do it in a safe quite environment either by myself or a very good friend. I'm a very controlling person.
Mar 12 2008 2:00PM
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ryankachel
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salvia was legal in NJ and it is now ILLEGAL, best to mix with weed...
Mar 12 2008 2:03PM
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unchyll
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salvia tastes like shit and looks like shit
Mar 12 2008 2:57PM
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Alex_thedroog
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I like to go to the disk golf park and light up a J
Mar 12 2008 3:01PM
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anti_bunk
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fuck no. never. ever. the reason salvia gets a bad rep is cuz people compare it to pot like theyre the same thing.  its not even close.  at all. 
Mar 12 2008 4:26PM
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comeatmebro
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i've never tried salvia but i would be open to. really i only want to try that and shrooms and i think i would only enjoy shrooms out of the two enough to do it on an occasional basis. marijuana is just fine for me. actually i don't give a fuck about salvia i need to get my hands on some shrooms though...
Mar 12 2008 4:36PM
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=nick=
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salvia is wack

ill stock to weed and brews
Mar 12 2008 5:13PM
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GANDALF
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yeah fuck that shit. kinda scares me. nick did you mean "stick" instead of "stock"?
Mar 12 2008 5:15PM
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Yauch
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wow america is so cool. taxes pay people to sit around and come up with brilliant ideas like "we have make salvia illegal." what the fuck.
Mar 12 2008 5:15PM
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=nick=
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uhh yeahh
Mar 12 2008 5:16PM
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GANDALF
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yeahhhhhhhhhh. 
Mar 12 2008 5:17PM
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lushlaxstr
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na it sucks

Mar 12 2008 5:19PM
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M+M
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Mar 12 2008 5:28PM
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Nicholas.
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its a hallucinigenic drug...if you drove on that shit you would probably get into an accident. most hallucinigens are illegal i dont see what all the fuss is about, its a wonder it stayed legal this long. 

Mar 12 2008 5:31PM
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popNfresh44
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no it wouldnt be, it only lasts like 5-10 minutes, is expensive, and not in any way addictive. weed will always be the drug of choice
Mar 12 2008 5:40PM
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Skavengers303
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anyone who is saying savia is stupid must not have done it right. it is the crazzyist drug i have ever done. it is really uncomfertable and can be scary, so it will never be like pot. also thoughs who are complaining about how it only lasts for a few seconds, i dont know about you but when i did it time slowed way down and i triped for an eternaty. to my freinds with me, i tripped for like 6 minuites. but in my perspective, i lived an eternaty outside of my body.
Mar 12 2008 5:47PM
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trueto2
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whoa i never thought about mixing it with weed. good idea.
Mar 12 2008 5:51PM
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Skavengers303
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i acually read all the posts, andyou can so tell which people on here have tried slalvia and accually smoked it right. they are the people who are freaking out about how crazy it is and how scary it is
Mar 12 2008 5:52PM
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Alex_thedroog
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why would you want to taint your weed
Mar 12 2008 6:21PM
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Yauch
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better illegalize nutmeg too then!
Mar 12 2008 6:24PM
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salamander
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no way. not many people want a trip that intense. its also not a recreational drug so it wont catch on like weed. way more people enjoy the high of straight up bud
Mar 12 2008 6:35PM
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doritos
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It's not going to be the next marijuana because you can't do shit on it and it's not relaxing. You can go to work high, do your laundry high, ski high, drive high, but you can't do any of those things on salvia. And when I get home from work, I don't want to go on a mind-bending hallucinogenic trip for five minutes, I want to relax for a few hours.
Mar 12 2008 6:41PM
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KRASHED
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wow I went on to you tube to watch some dudes hit that shit, you can really tell the amateurs from the people that do wayyy too many drugs, some kids were just losing it and some black guy did 80x and didn't feel very much.
Mar 12 2008 6:42PM
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yellav
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absolutely no. salvias so fucking stupid make it illegal then no one will ever waste their time or money on it ever again stupidest fucking hallucinagen ever.
Mar 12 2008 6:48PM
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mattster
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i dont trust it, salvia is a bad idea...
kids that do it alot get totally re wired and just dont end up the same

kids that smoke lots of pot can quit for a week and totally clear up
Mar 12 2008 7:07PM
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VT_FLO
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thats why alot of head shops dont sell it to minors, because minors are stupid and over use drugs.

I think that most drugs should be regulated for adult use, instead of this "even if your old enough to not have as much as an addictive personality, we still tell you how to live your life" bullshit.

yes i include mushrooms, lsd, marijuana, alcohal, and other hallucinagenics in this.

the only things I think should be illegal unless medically perscribed are heavily addictive substances like narcotics, stimulants, and the majority of depressants
Mar 12 2008 8:21PM
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C+Thompson
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Never tried but it sounds wack.  Who wants a scary 5 minute trip?
Just my opinion.
Nothin can replace weed.
Mar 12 2008 8:24PM
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jason...
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the first and only time i tried it the trip lasted for about half an hour and wasnt scary just weird and sort of funny
Mar 12 2008 8:37PM
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laxstar
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i got it once and tried it but we got like the 30 x or 40 x shit and i sparked a big ass bowl and honest it was like insta fuck up i walked and sat down on my friends porch and the hole side of my face just like felt numb and i was retarded and seeing shit and it scared the fuck out of me... have never considered it again and it fucked up weed for me  which is prolly the biggest set back of it for me i know it is prolly nothing but it's jsut a panic problem or something
Mar 12 2008 8:42PM
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Nihiriju
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i liked it nd plan on doing it sometime in the future. It only lasted 5 mins for me though and it is deffy not something you would do often. All i would do it for is inspiration, so much wierd shit happens.
Mar 12 2008 8:47PM
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