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Double flips, increase in injureys?

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M+M
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anyone else think  that as the double flip begins to progress, so will the amount of serious injureys in skiing, sooner or later i feel everyone is going to be trying them....and dieing
Nov 6 2007 2:36PM
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Ceru
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its definatly a concern, i mean i know what your saying like someone will try a kang flip and get halfway on the second flip and land on their head right?  idk its a good thought
Nov 6 2007 2:57PM
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-_-Johnny-_-
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Doubt it
Nov 6 2007 3:06PM
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Holte
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I think it's safe to say that inverted and off-axis tricks have more severe-injury potential than on axis tricks.
Nov 6 2007 3:12PM
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Skiing_Is_Fun
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I think the more skiing progresses, the more complex the tricks will become, which will make them harder to land, thus increasing injuries. so, yes.
Nov 6 2007 3:59PM
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thejackal1177
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im sure just as many inexperianced skiers get hurt trying simple 360's and the pros stomp there doubles nearly always. depends if you know what your doing or not
Nov 6 2007 4:18PM
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kool.aid.man
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very true. i ditto this.

it all depends on form and if you know really what you are doing. go tramp and water sesh before you just hit a 65 foot booter tryin a double flip, your mostly likely going to deck out on your head.
Nov 6 2007 4:33PM
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Edward.
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im pretty sure i will never do or attempt a double flip in my life
Nov 6 2007 4:35PM
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Bodeau.
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No, i dont believe this. The only reason people usually get hurt is because they try something that they are not ready to do yet. someone i know can only do 3's off small jumps and says he wants to try a back flip in the first week.... this is when injuries come about.
Nov 6 2007 4:41PM
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Ceru
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i learned backflips pretty much the same week i learned 360s, they are easier than you think
Nov 6 2007 5:06PM
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poofartpee
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any progression will usually mean higher consiqunces...not neccesarily more injury but that can happen 2
Nov 6 2007 6:19PM
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JibEarth
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if your goign to do a duble i assume you can do a single first so therefore wats the diffrence between landing on your head on the first flip vs the second?
Nov 6 2007 6:40PM
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Download-My-Apps
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ya but doing a 360 and a miss is a broken leg at most.

A doubleback and a miss is never walking again or even death sometimes.

I'm all for the 'progression' of the sport. But backflips aren't that hard of a trick, but a double back requires quite a bit of skill.

Like some 13yr old learns how to do a back and then sees jon with his kangflip and decides he can do it to.

I think the maker of the thread is tryin  to point out is with greater difficulty comes the potential of more injuries. Its bound to happen to some people in the sport.
Nov 6 2007 6:45PM
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Hairmetaler
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personally i dont agree im not going to go out and try a kang because jon can do it but i mean if ur smart and try out a jump and see how much speed u need then no one should get the severelly injured, not saying htat people wont get hurt but if they no there limit and how good they are then they wont get hurt as much
Nov 6 2007 6:53PM
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Adrenaline
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You have no idea how many people try to ski above what they can do in the park. SO many injuries come from people that shouldn't even be in the park in the first place let alone trying a backer in the beginner park.  or the bigger parks. which boggles my mind.  but to each their own I guess.
Nov 6 2007 7:15PM
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shoenice22
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if you can do a single off a 30ft yump, then you can do a double off a 60ft jumperooo. but doubles scare me shitless right now
Nov 6 2007 7:22PM
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LosRegos
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Skiing becoming nature? The twintip revolution correlating with human evolution? Does this mean natural selection? Does this mean the survivors of the double-backflip will go on and breed eventually creating a race of amazing superskiers who will rule the planet with ridiculous steeze? I guess it was going to happen sooner or later...

Nov 6 2007 7:41PM
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meltonsnow
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man, it is SOOOOOOOO much more than that!  the biggest thing about doing a double is commiting to the second flip n that can be quite difficult.  say someone is throwing a double off a jump n catches an edge at the last second (or something along those lines that distracts them) and decides they only want to do a single, but still has the momentum going from hucking the double, they're going to try to stop their rotation so that they only do a single but overrotate because they were initially trying a double. they're gunna get fucked up!  If this person were only trying a single flip in the first place and caught an edge, all they would have to do is follow through with their huck n they would be fine.

my answer to the quesion of the thread starter: yes, double flips will bring more injuries to the sport of skiing.
Nov 6 2007 8:08PM
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Download-My-Apps
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Not saying you don't have the skills man.

But its that kind of thinking when people do get hurt.
Nov 6 2007 9:51PM
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schmies
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Nope, less injuries than single flips. Triple flips are even safer. Same with spinning. 
Nov 6 2007 9:58PM
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james44
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ok well i can do single flips/ rodeos and this year im planning on trying a dub back and a kangeroo flip so if i get injured il get back to you

..claim i guess also but not really

Nov 6 2007 10:04PM
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Caleb_F
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Thanks, I was waiting for that...
Nov 7 2007 11:50AM
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AKoblitz
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yes i think more people are going to get hurt....

Trying a double flip is WAY more dangerous than trying a sw10 for the first time...

but along with this people are/will continue to get hurt because of the progression of our sport... every year things are getting sooo much bigger and crazier, injuries are bound to happen. Only so much a human body can take

Nov 7 2007 1:48PM
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CraigAK
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you also got to understand that if you flip off a jump with a lets say 45 degree slope and a landing with about the same, then thats 90 degrees that you do not rotate on a single back, on a double you have to rotate that 270 degree flip plus another 360 degree flip to land
Nov 16 2007 11:26PM
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Pippin
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as most extrem sports are, as the difficulty increases so does the chnce of injury so it makes sence
Nov 16 2007 11:29PM
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Kevski
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It makes sense that the injuries increase with the difficulty of the tricks, but I see the jumps going a bit safer, now, too. Less Big Bertha style step downs, and more JOI style step-overs.
So they might balance out a bit.
It's definitely the kids who think they can do it, but have no idea what's involved with it, who will get hurt.
Nov 17 2007 12:18AM
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Rippy087
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yep, i seriously doubt too many people will be trying double flips anytime soon. sure the pros can do them, but how many other people?

Nov 17 2007 1:21AM
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jason...
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double flipz = double injuriez!!!!!! but seriously most pros are experienced enough to not get injured when stomping there big tricks
Nov 17 2007 1:46AM
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solitaryman
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no fucking shit jason, that wasn't the question either
Nov 17 2007 2:09AM
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landonn
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its just the kids that get way crunk and decide i can do anything and try doubles who kill themselves
Nov 17 2007 2:12AM
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GUZ
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yeah me too backflips are really easy just do one on the tramp and they feel virtually the same on skis
Nov 17 2007 2:13AM
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landonn
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yo guz, doubleflips not backflips
Nov 17 2007 2:19AM
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KRAMPUSNTROLLZ
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oh fo sho i mean instead of spinning with your head above your body or slightly to the side you are putting that thing below your body. So many people trying them will stall out and end up on their heads breaking their necks. I mean backflips are fine but when people start doing doubles people started spinning every witch way and most of the time the head is below the body.
Nov 17 2007 2:28AM
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