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invaderskier36
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i was trying all day yesterday and i coouldnt get them down for nose i would throw all my weight foward an the skis would lift so what am i doing wrong?
Nov 25 2006 1:00PM
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Jrap14
Posts: 408 - Karma: 9
are tail butters hard 2?
Nov 25 2006 1:02PM
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The_Oakley_Kid
Posts: 3128 - Karma: 179
just ask ur mom to butter ur toast for u. jk. uhh that sounds really weerid. if u have invaders, just lean forward and keep ur skis together but don't uses ur edges
Nov 25 2006 1:09PM
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timmi
Posts: 12874 - Karma: 3,460
kind of a practise makes perfect thing. i find its harder to do with a stiff boot too.
Nov 25 2006 1:30PM
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invaderskier36
Posts: 6192 - Karma: 41
i was using the spk boot and 182 phil loc skis the blue ones
Nov 25 2006 1:34PM
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nate-layton
Posts: 115 - Karma: 10
yup stiff boots make it harder and i have a real stiff boot
Nov 25 2006 1:35PM
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awsomecoolguy
Posts: 3536 - Karma: 13
umm i have no idea about the flex of the phil los skis. but.....if theres one thing i can do better than anyone it's butter. turn "make sure to turn first" then lean forward, keep your ski's fairly close to eachother, when you get them to come up in the back. You want to make sure you keep moveing down the hill while your buttering "to make it look steezy". have fun
Nov 25 2006 1:44PM
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invaderskier36
Posts: 6192 - Karma: 41
thanks
Nov 25 2006 1:55PM
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Jrap14
Posts: 408 - Karma: 9
i have fugatives.. is it gonna be easy?
Nov 25 2006 1:58PM
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The_Oakley_Kid
Posts: 3128 - Karma: 179
yes, fugative are great for buttering, but invaders are better. basically any ski with a really really soft flex will work
Nov 25 2006 2:42PM
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RRhighrider
Posts: 2140 - Karma: 1,124
is there anything differant you do while doing a 360 butter or just spin around another 180? i can do both tail and nose butters but i want to learn 360 nose butters
Nov 25 2006 3:04PM
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Anti-Hero
Posts: 1269 - Karma: 338
^ watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IisuMipZClY
t-rains got the 360 nose butters down
Nov 25 2006 4:06PM
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ajax
Posts: 2852 - Karma: 1,245
^That is quite a sick vid.
Nov 25 2006 4:12PM
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tahoearmada20
Posts: 971 - Karma: 352
Personally, I have found butters much EASIER since getting stiffer boots, it makes getting yur tails off the ground easier. The flex of the ski is much more important than that of the boots. But, when it comes down to it, practice makes perfect.
Nov 25 2006 4:36PM
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396222687862
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is it easy to break fujis by buttering? last year i would do these butter things all year, and they are extremely soft now. should i stop buttering, i dont wanna break muh skis
Nov 25 2006 4:44PM
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The_Oakley_Kid
Posts: 3128 - Karma: 179
if u wanna get goood u will break skis. thats just how things go in our ever progressing sport. but yeah, my fugatives felt really stiff when i got them, but now they are soft and have not brokem yet. but they will, tyeh will
Nov 25 2006 5:16PM
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tBatt
Posts: 9632 - Karma: 580
i just started doing them today (also on fujatives) it seemd really easy on those but maybe im just amazing (and modest)
Nov 25 2006 5:26PM
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Jrap14
Posts: 408 - Karma: 9
hahha which did u do? and wat do u do just like lean back/front and spin?
Nov 25 2006 5:42PM
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Jrap14
Posts: 408 - Karma: 9
i can picture it cause if tried it on carpet but i cantget it down
Nov 25 2006 5:44PM
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K2-fujative
Posts: 451 - Karma: 10
How is the flex in ar6's?
Nov 25 2006 5:52PM
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Jrap14
Posts: 408 - Karma: 9
waaaat? does it matter my skis are sset at like +4
Nov 25 2006 5:53PM
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triebby
Posts: 8670 - Karma: 2,190
for nose just lean forward and left or forward and right and set a little spin to the side you lean to in order to butter that way. i like to carve set a little spin and pop and lean forwards all in one motion and that works pretty well. just play around with it alot and see what works for you.
Nov 25 2006 6:03PM
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K2-fujative
Posts: 451 - Karma: 10
How is the flex in ar6's?
Nov 25 2006 6:14PM
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chickenwang
Posts: 5639 - Karma: 40
^dope skis
but my tip is just to bring ya knees up after u lean forwerds and keep ur skis together
Nov 25 2006 6:35PM
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timmi
Posts: 12874 - Karma: 3,460
you mean your din setting? no that wont matter just make sure its high enough that you dont double eject.
Nov 25 2006 6:47PM
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*T-Hobbs*
Posts: 718 - Karma: 193
i was playing with butters today- so fun, but when you get 1/2 way around, i was having a hard time popping around the rest of the way.... any helpful hints??
Nov 26 2006 3:41PM
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Fitz.
Posts: 701 - Karma: 190
are public enemy's an alright ski for buttering??
Nov 26 2006 3:45PM
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Rez4frederick
Posts: 4740 - Karma: 40
switch fakie butters are alot easier than nose butters. Basically just try and lean on your tails and start spinning around without cathcing your edges and when you get to a certain point, JUMP and finish spinning the rest of the way that you want to go. it works best if you try and do it off of a little bump or something, doing it on flatland is kinda gay.
Nov 26 2006 3:46PM
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hoodratz47
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your probably to small
Nov 26 2006 3:55PM
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Swick825
Posts: 1798 - Karma: 11
oh shit i was watchin that the other day. his butters are so sick.
Nov 26 2006 3:58PM
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Black-Bandanna
Posts: 6680 - Karma: 1,603
gain some weight :]

but seriously, carve into it more, and throw all your weight forward. if you watch Rainville do it, you'll see that he keeps his skis pretty close together. he also throws his hands forward to stabilize.
Nov 26 2006 3:59PM
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triebby
Posts: 8670 - Karma: 2,190
just throw a little more spin into and try and really get up on your tips. then if you can, try to pop off of your tips and/or bring them off the snow quickly and shifty/spin to get back around forwards.
Nov 26 2006 4:30PM
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titsLOL
Posts: 7485 - Karma: 396
yea most def, fujatives are a really sick threadjacking ski.
Nov 26 2006 4:33PM
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WONTON
Posts: 6951 - Karma: 55
u can butter on any ski
Nov 26 2006 4:38PM
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*DrewT*
Posts: 7768 - Karma: 481
There's so many different ways of buttering. I'm acctually really liking when you just lean forward and spin, like don't think about getting right on the tips or anything, or lifting up your knees, have it so your tails are only a few inches off the snow then spin that around. It's kinda differnt than most people do it
Nov 26 2006 4:43PM
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eLevate
Posts: 2489 - Karma: 49
true that. im a decent sized guy (like 6' 200) and i cant really butter the stealths im currently riding. i mean, i can, but fuck, it hurts.
Nov 26 2006 4:51PM
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TimothyLord
Posts: 2114 - Karma: 568
if ur on invaders u should be able to
Nov 26 2006 5:25PM
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Silence
Posts: 16030 - Karma: 150
^ he's on phil loc's
Nov 26 2006 5:39PM
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SlickRick.
Posts: 4329 - Karma: 300
you obviously had no background knowledge before you bought your ski...
Nov 26 2006 8:14PM
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soycapitan2
Posts: 296 - Karma: 10
how bout juvys, are they good?
Nov 26 2006 8:47PM
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tjski
Posts: 5859 - Karma: 44
you got to put your hips into it, first throw your upper body down the way you want to spin then follow through with your hips when your body is about 90degrees around.
Nov 26 2006 8:52PM
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Jrap14
Posts: 408 - Karma: 9
i tried it today i jsut cant get my tail that high off the ground
Nov 26 2006 9:01PM
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EVAN.F
Posts: 895 - Karma: 2,820
shorter skis are def. alot easier
Nov 26 2006 9:11PM
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chairdawg
Posts: 1422 - Karma: 36
are they easy on trouble makers
Nov 26 2006 9:33PM
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nedward
Posts: 841 - Karma: 15
is it hard to butter with juvy's...i would know but i dont have snow yet :(
Nov 26 2006 9:34PM
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poofartpee
Posts: 7436 - Karma: 1,538
ill tell u right know switch butters are easier so get those down first. i also find to help learning butters going forward just to do a 180 but keep ur tips on the snow this gives u the feel then u can start doing true butters
Nov 26 2006 10:09PM
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