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Rodeo 5 and Flatspin 5

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Matty_C
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Ok people, apologies for the upsetting the people will get angry but here goes...

Can somebody clear up the difference between these, because for months now I keep admiring a rodeo 5 only to be told it's a flat 5. These two clips for example look identical but one apparently is a rodeo and one is I'm told definately a flatspin.

Rodeo: http://media.nscdn.com/uploads/member/videos/1141550698rodeo5.wmv

Flatspin: http://powdermag.com/av/msp-hit-list/

(the one in the sunset, super slow mo)
May 28 2006 1:49PM
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bpalmer
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Those are both flatspins.

To do a rodeo you have to be inverted(hips above head). It looks more like a lincoln loop kinda.

Eric Hjorleifson(spelling?) does some cool rodeos. Snowboarders have been throwin em down lately too.
May 28 2006 1:55PM
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bpalmer
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http://www.freeride.se/content/221/ This is a true rodeo.
May 28 2006 2:03PM
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MackJones
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yeah those are both flats pretty much
May 28 2006 2:07PM
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RMillz
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Ok i no its old thread but there is no need for me to make a new one

In this vid the second trick is a rodeo? ppl keep tellin me diff things
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May 30 2009 1:50PM
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quixotic
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Tramps are hard to tell what exactly a flip is, but that could either be flatspin 5 or lincoln 180. It DEFINITELY is NOT a rodeo.
May 30 2009 1:59PM
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RMillz
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a lincoln 180 is a rodeo tho..pretty much
does anyone have a vid of a rodeo 5 on a tramp?
May 30 2009 2:00PM
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skiingonskis
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why does it matter....
May 30 2009 2:08PM
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quixotic
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Okay... don't ask what a trick is and then correct somebody trying to help you by telling them you know what the trick is, especially when you are wrong.

A rodeo isn't pretty much a lincoln 180. The best way to describe rodeo 5 is halfway between backflip and lincoln loop.

Here is a video that my friend made. At 1:31 I do a rodeo 3 and then the very next clip is rodeo 5

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May 30 2009 2:09PM
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quixotic
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"Dude, did you just see the kangaroo flip that I pulled?" "No... that was a spread eagle?" "No, you're retarded that was a kangaroo flip." "No... it wasn't." "Well why does it matter anyway, I can call a trick whatever I want."

So yes, it does matter.
May 30 2009 2:11PM
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quixotic
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Sorry for the triple post, but there are some more rodeo 5s at like 2:40 that will give you a better idea on how to throw them.


May 30 2009 2:16PM
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nickyp
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May 30 2009 3:20PM
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FUUUCK
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that was a lincoln 180 also known as a RODEO 540

it defianately wasnt anything close to a flatspin because it was a flip
May 30 2009 3:53PM
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quixotic
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a true rodeo 5 is basically an off axis backflip 180. I'm not sure why so many people think a rodeo is a lincoln 180. It's not...
May 30 2009 4:00PM
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SlickRick.
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holy shit. you are the biggest fuck ive yet to come across on this site. taht video you posted was absolutly painful to watch. hit puberty kid, and find a new use of your time
May 30 2009 4:49PM
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c.hale
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Rodeo 3?
May 30 2009 4:55PM
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quixotic
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Thank you. I strive daily to be the biggest fuck I can. I'm not sure what puberty has to do with anything... but if you think that is a good insult, then you definitely got me there. But as long as you use that icon, I win. I made that for you like 2-3 years ago.
May 30 2009 5:26PM
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RMillz
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im gunna go ahead and call them rodeo5's from now on
May 30 2009 9:11PM
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LIL_WAT
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hahahahaha. rodeo 3? yeah, good one. and to the dude with the vid, the second trick WAS a rodeo 5. well done

May 30 2009 9:19PM
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traylortrash
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hahaha what? calm down...
May 30 2009 9:26PM
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Chrris
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Hahahahahaahahaha
May 30 2009 9:29PM
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fouldsys
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that "rodeo 3" is just a lincoln japan
May 30 2009 9:57PM
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SHampson
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i agree and believe that it does matter. But your argument is pretty shitty.  He is saying when there are small differences and that people should stop making a big deal posting threads on this. Instead just enjoy the tricks they do.
May 30 2009 10:48PM
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T-Holt
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Ok, from what I've heard from Chris Turpin in his cult.  A rodeo is when your skis are like this || and a flatspin is when your skis are like this =.

Link:

https://www.newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/394560/

His exact post:

the first vid is a falt 5

the sec is a rodeo 5


watch his skis. the first vid his skis go like = and he spins around his head. The second is like when you jump into bed on your back, its a forwerd pop rolling onto your back pointing your base of your skis to the take off.

so like I said very diff. witch would you feel safer trying

May 30 2009 11:18PM
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T-Holt
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Here's another one of his posts:

Ya know rodeo is one of the toughest tricks to teach. Its a lot like the misty. A lot of kids mix up Flat spin (ski rotates like this in a circle = flat ) and Rodeo (ski rotates like this in a circle ll vertically with your back down ). So making sure you know the trick well enough helps allot.
May 30 2009 11:21PM
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graham.c
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exactly what i was going to do/say. Good post
May 31 2009 1:37AM
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quixotic
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Alright this is my last post in this thread. Pause the video when I am at my peak of my rodeo 3. My head is facing backwards. In a lincoln loop you are facing forward the entire time. Most people call them a flat spin 3, but I call it a rodeo 3 because the way I do them and the way most people do them they are inverted and not flat. Also, it is thrown in the same motion as a rodeo 5, so that is why I call it a rodeo 3.

And I'm not sure why that video is so painful to watch? If it isn't obvious that it is just a big joke and we are having fun, then you take life way too seriously.

I guess I just realized why I hate posting in "what trick is this" threads because most people on NS have absolutely no clue what a trick is and then get in an argument about it saying that they know they are right.

Check out this thread for the flatspin/rodeo 3 debate. Tons of videos with the same flip I did... definitely not a lincoln with a japan grab.


/rant
May 31 2009 1:49AM
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.SimonB.
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you could post a vid of a backflip 180 and people will call it 5 different names. It is hard to name inverts, b/c everyone does theirs differently.
May 31 2009 5:10PM
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