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What's easier to learn? Frontflips or Backflips?

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STLskier
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Can anyone tell me which? I know this has probably been asked before.
Nov 18 2010 11:04PM
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TonyMacaroni
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threads, i'm curious too cuz i am probably trying both this year. i would think backflips would be because you can spot your landing, but thats just a guess
Nov 18 2010 11:06PM
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STLskier
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Yeah I'm also looking to add both to my bag of tricks. Backs seem harder to me becasue they see like they would be like full gainers which work against your momentum. Frontflips seem to use your forward momentum so they sound a lot easier.
Nov 18 2010 11:09PM
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Pool.
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im still learning to do both, but doing fronts into pow off of cat tracks and stuff is way easier than building a jump, also if u mess up on a frontflip u end up on ur back but on a backflip u land on ur head
Nov 18 2010 11:09PM
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c4t_l0ver
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i find backflips easier, cause you can spot your landing, and the way the jump is shaped its easier to throw, front flips are more fun, imo.
Nov 18 2010 11:11PM
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p-fo
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frontflip momentum is actually harder because youre working against the direction the lip wants to pop you. backflip on skis is a really natural motion. the fact that you are traveling forward has nothing to do with what you do once youre in the air. when you go off a jump its not like a diving board. you dont pop forward. you pop up.
Nov 18 2010 11:11PM
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Abc567def
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frontflips Imo, there is just something more natural about it for me when i'm in the air. although the pop is totally different than backflips the consequences are a lot smaller
Nov 18 2010 11:12PM
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RAWLAN
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backflips are easier but more high risk, frontflips are harder but lower risk. thats how i view it at least.

Nov 18 2010 11:13PM
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Gnarcoma
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Does anybody have any general tips for trying my first front flip/ back flip?
Nov 18 2010 11:16PM
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deleted5
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front flip are better t learn first push off of one big toe not your whole foot
Nov 18 2010 11:17PM
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Gnarcoma
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haha,  that was pretty much my plan!
Nov 18 2010 11:19PM
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special-J
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FRONTFLIPS ARE WAY EASIER. well, for me at least. you would think that the lip of the jump throws you back and what not, but that actually has very little to do with it. When you hit a jump, you will automatically be forward in your boots, thus counteracting they backward movement (naturally straight-airing a jump you don't land backseat...). your forward momentum pulls you around sooo much easier. Think of it this way: is it easier to do a frontflip off a diving board or a gainer?
Nov 18 2010 11:21PM
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Shlogan
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basically this. unrelated story: tried a back one and a half in diving today, now that shit is hard to commit to. but yaa backs just require more commitment and can still hurt more, fronts are harder but after trying them on a jump cliffs will feel so nice because your not working against a lip.
Nov 18 2010 11:26PM
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willy_baller
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Backflips are harder to commit to, but easier to land because you can spot your landing. Fontflips are easier to commit to, but harder to stomp because you dont see your landing, until you should be landing.
Nov 18 2010 11:29PM
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BWalmer
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Yeah, I learned backies first, but I do more frontflips than backies....mostly cause inverts are banned where I ski most of the time so I have to be sly and throw random punch fronts off stuff when no one is looking...it's harder to get away with backies.

Backflips are easier cause you can spot almost the entire way, where as frontflips you're pretty much blind the whole way, but for some reason frontflips are less scary...it's weird. Also, if you think about it, with a backflip you don't flip the whole way and frontflips you have to flip more than a full flip cause of the natural shape of jumps.
Nov 18 2010 11:39PM
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Skithedeep
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personally i say frontflips, but i have to say i have an uncanny ability to frontflip anything anytime not just on skis. and backflips also scare the everliving shit out of me...so i agree with above, frontflips are easier to commit to, but harder to land
Nov 18 2010 11:40PM
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lanny94
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frontflips i find but im mest cause i can only backflip on skis no where else
Nov 18 2010 11:44PM
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lanny94
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500th post /claim
Nov 18 2010 11:47PM
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perhaps
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I learned backflips first but fronts are less intimidating and its alright if you try them on a smaller jump whereas if you're trying a backflip make sure you can clear your head. Both are both basically commitment, if you have a decent jump and you commit you'll be alright even if you don't land it first try.
Nov 18 2010 11:48PM
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willyg0808
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frontflips are easier to learn because they are less scary. you can't really untuck and get hurt with a frontflip, plus you can throw them all about anything
Nov 18 2010 11:54PM
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nutsnbolts
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Im looking to add both to my arsenal for the season. It seems to me that a front flip would be easier because you already have some forward momentum when you the leave the jump...but thats from a guy who has only done flips on a tramp sooooooooo...i digress
Nov 18 2010 11:57PM
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Keith_M
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Frontflips are mentally easier to huck. Backs are physically easier but scarier at first.

Just do it, and don't hit your head on the lip with backs.
Nov 19 2010 12:03AM
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finchski
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depends on if your wanting to try it off a park booter or just a random jump
Nov 19 2010 12:31AM
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ThunderousFilms
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i learned fronts first because u need much less airtime, and the way i saw it was alll i have to spin over is my head, and i can land on my back but at least i wont fuck my neck up, from all the back flip fails i saw ppl either caught their tips or landed on their head, so i did park jumps front flips first (got first try) and then back flips back country booter (overrotated first try but was nice into pow landing, once u do either once they become easy
Nov 19 2010 12:39AM
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Gknow
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Fronts are easier to commit to, you see your landing right as you come to the top of the lip, then huck and tuck. Landings are sketch cause you can't see anything and you kinda have to trust your feet will make contact with the snow under your torso.
Backs are easier once you get the hang of them. Get the commitment issue out of your head and it's backies all day. Make sure you throw your shoulders and keep your head looking back at all times. Think about pointing the toes up, against the roof of your boots; that helps the rest of your body follow through.
Nov 19 2010 12:41AM
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TheQuailman
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First off, stop listening to kids on NS....

Frontflips are way easier because you can do them on knuckles, all you do is throw yourself over and your good..chances are you'll either land on your back or backseat but its pussy shit cause your never off the ground more than a foot or two...you seriously can't get hurt

Backflips are hard because they are an actual trick, they need a legit jump.  Yes the rotation is super easy, and you have a ton of time to get it around.  If you come up short your tips will hit and you'll double eject but you won't land on your head, worst comes to worst your on your stomach.

Quite being a pussy, try em both in the same day on the same run....you'll live

Nov 19 2010 12:43AM
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J-Evs
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frontflip=less scary, but definately harder to get the full rotation

backflip=scarier but much more natural rotation and easier to do on jumps
Nov 19 2010 12:45AM
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rickroller
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both are eazy to learn. i learned backflips first
Nov 19 2010 12:45AM
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Dustin.
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Backflips are the easiest trick I ever learned.  You just sack up and you will probably stomp you're first one.  Easier than 3's.
Nov 19 2010 12:48AM
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Ftacnik
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I learned frontflips first and I can stomp them every time. They're just less intimidating.

As for blackflips, I landed the first one I ever tried on a 20ft jump but then when I went to try it again I went too slow and caught my tips on the knuckle. I didn't even really get hurt, well besides my goggle scratching my face.
Nov 19 2010 12:55AM
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Rockhound
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i tried frontflips first, landed backflips first

frontflips are hard for me because i always underrotated them(i did these off a roller at hood)

but with backflips you can spot your landing and do good
Nov 19 2010 1:08AM
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hollygrove
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backflips are just as easy as a 360 with the proper jump
Nov 19 2010 1:09AM
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Billiards.
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First off, you are a kid on NS too...

Second, everyone's first flip experience is different. I did front flips first, but that was stupid because I, personally enjoy backflips WAY more and think they are WAY easier. Doing a backflip is the most simple thing ever, easier than any 360 and over trick in skiing, hands down. I would definitely say start with backflips.
Nov 19 2010 1:14AM
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Moo
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my first back i got the rotation, landed in a compression and front flipped out of my skis,
fronts are easier to throw, backs are easier to land
Nov 19 2010 1:22AM
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doyle.
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backs harder to try for the first time cuz you're scared shitless you're gonna land on your head. but once you do it for the first time they're easy. fronts are easier the try at first but you don't really spot your landing until the last second
Nov 19 2010 2:37AM
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doyle.
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watch the 4frnt tech talk videos, they've got good tips on backies and fronts
Nov 19 2010 2:42AM
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BITS
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try both front- and backflips on tramp and see whats most comfortable for you
Nov 19 2010 5:41AM
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Newschool_Pope
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i started with lincolns first. they still are the easiest flip for me, since i find it hard to gain rotation on a frontflip with skis, since im so used to the grip i get with my feet when i jump off a diving board or smthn else. looking into backies this winter
Nov 19 2010 6:13AM
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I_Am_Mod
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depends on the setup, frontflips off a drop into pow are easier than 180s off the same drop...

backflips are easier on a real kicker, a sidebooter or out of a ridge, you can perfectly learn/do em on the end of a halfpipe as well...just throw back, tuck and spot your landing
Nov 19 2010 6:34AM
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B1kessk1s
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first time a tried a backflip on a 65 foot jump. it is really easy in my mind but i need to put my skis in my back because the way i spin, i see nothing at all, not even the landing


Nov 19 2010 8:16AM
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LIL_WAT
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dude that was SICK for a first try.
Nov 19 2010 8:22AM
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i.ski.NC
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I've heard that backflips are easier but I don't really know.
And does anyone know if I have a chance of landing one if I can barely do one on a trampoline?
Nov 19 2010 8:27AM
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ColinB
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Rodeos.. soo easy to learn
Nov 19 2010 8:30AM
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Iget
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I fell that lincolns would be eaiser, but thats just me.
Nov 19 2010 9:02AM
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dan09uk
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i can do front flips, but im never tried to do a back flips. took a few times of being thrown out of both my bindings on the lip. Having my both hands above my shoulders helped and throwing them forward is how i learned.
Nov 19 2010 10:25AM
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howlongcanausern
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was that you? looked solid.
Nov 19 2010 10:47AM
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Gnarcoma
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I imagine it is really sketchy trying to do a laid out backflip on a jump that big for the first time.
Nov 19 2010 12:07PM
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B1kessk1s
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yes it is me and actually it is easier to try it on a big jump because you have time!!!!! on smaller jumps you just trow yourself really fast and dont even know what is happening. on bigger jumps you have time to look, and prepare yourself to land, on push your feet to rotate a little faster or slower. i really recommand to do it on a jump bigger than 20 feet at least. and frontflips, dont even talk about it hahahaha i landed on my neck and had a concussion lol. i did it on a jump that was way too small. :(

@0:52 fail backflip on the jump hahaha and @1:30 fail frontflip.

enjoy :)


Nov 19 2010 12:18PM
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D-Ross
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Hopefully this works, but
4frnt Tech Talk Episode 12: Punch Front >>
Nov 19 2010 1:01PM
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technique.
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as i skimmed the thread i was thinking about how i was gonna post this. and then i get to the bottom and BAM! nicely played

[i believe] there isnt a better way to teach a frontflip than what is shown in that vid
Nov 19 2010 2:23PM
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