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Alpha 1 vs. Alpha 2

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cbeebzthasteeze
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So I've heard a lot about these two skis, and I was wondering what the differences were. I am looking at the 176, and they both have the same measurements, Elf-Shoe Tech, and A2's have a slightly smaller turn radius. So help me NS, what are the differences, pros and cons?
Apr 24 2010 11:14PM
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minibus4
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Are you talking about getting next season's skis or this seasons?
Apr 24 2010 11:19PM
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minibus4
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Search bar if your talking about this years
Apr 24 2010 11:23PM
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BWalmer
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Alpha 1s have the pipe cleaner base and core while the Alpha 2s have the AR6/Thall base and core. So the Alpha 1 will be lighter and faster, but the Alpha 2 will be more durable and have a smaller turning radius.
Apr 24 2010 11:30PM
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cbeebzthasteeze
Posts: 1862 - Karma: 85
Thanks, I tried to view the videos on the Armada website, but they weren't working. Oh well. Well, thanks for the input, I'll add the Alpha 2 to my list of skis to ponder over.
Apr 24 2010 11:34PM
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pigglywiggly
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download moxilla firefox browser and use that.
Apr 24 2010 11:48PM
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cbeebzthasteeze
Posts: 1862 - Karma: 85
I have it, it's what I normally use. My internet has been slow lately, and the website just wouldn't load completely. I reset my router and now it's better.
Apr 25 2010 12:28AM
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deathcookie
Posts: 1800 - Karma: 1,196
The alpha 1 base is just as strong or stronger if you wax them on a daily basis.  If you dont wax then its another story.  The alpha ones are lighter and im pretty sure they are softer.
Apr 25 2010 12:32AM
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Lemuel
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Why is there a smaller turning radius on the Alpha 2 when it had the same exact shape as the Alpha 1?
Apr 25 2010 10:23AM
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Blurst
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the skis have a different flex
Apr 25 2010 10:49AM
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cbeebzthasteeze
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So how much rocker does the Alpha 2 have? I looked and I can't seem to find it... I usually pretty bad about finding the rocker on the websites.
Apr 25 2010 1:24PM
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ChadThundercock
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the bases are the only difference, the alpha 1 has race base, while the alpha 2 has a regular base that will hold up better on rails. i believe the dimensions and rocker are the same, not sure though.
Apr 25 2010 2:19PM
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Anders_N
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The race base isnt that bad on rails ether. Ive skiid the pipe cleaner for two years now and they are just fine. Sure the ar6 base is bether, idntnow. But it is a + on jums were its hard to get speed. 
Apr 25 2010 2:45PM
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minibus4
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It doesn't have rocker, it has camber underfoot and early rise tip and tail, it doesnt have crazy early rise tip and tail profile but its enough to do the job.
Apr 25 2010 2:50PM
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cbeebzthasteeze
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Ahh my bad. But isn't early rise pretty much the same as rocker? Like, a mini rocker?
Apr 25 2010 2:54PM
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minibus4
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No, Armada calls it Elf shoe tech, not rocker. By my definition rocker is when the ski makes like a u shape with no variations(ex like camber).
Apr 25 2010 11:32PM
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onenerdykid
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they have different cores too.  Quick and dirty, the Alpha 1 = Pipe Cleaner, Alpha 2 = AR6.
Apr 27 2010 7:44PM
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PC.
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They're quite a bit faster. My buddy had Pipecleaners last year, and I had AR6's, and he would boost jumps I couldn't get the speed to get over.

Sorta pissed me off, but the AR6 base is ROCK solid.

Apr 29 2010 12:30PM
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