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Grab Guide help

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ESB
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Hello there... due to boredom, I'm compiling a sort or grab reference guide. These are the grabs I have defined so far- please let me know if I'm missing anything. There are some fuzzy, undefined things out there that I'm wondering if I should include, i.e. undermutes, etc. What do you think?

I'm also looking for very good, close-up pictures of any of the below grabs. If you have one you think I could use, please let me know.

One final thing: WHAT IS AN UNCROSSED MUTE GRAB CALLED?

If anyone has any helpful input or suggestions, please post here or message me.

Here's what I've got:

IN FRONT OF THE BINDING
Rocket (Zute)
variation: Cross Rocket
Mute
variation: Huntony

UNDER THE BINDING
Safety (Indy)
Japan
Lui Kang
Phil's

BEHIND THE BINDING
Tail
variations:
True Tail
Toxic (don't worry, I explained the controversy)
Illegal
Opposite Tail

SCREAMIN' SEAMEN GRABS
Seamen Grab (Seamen Japan)
Genie Grab

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Aug 24 2002 10:37PM
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Ski_Instructor_Mike
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uncrossed mute is basicly a critical. and some people call an illegal a blunt grab.
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Aug 24 2002 10:48PM
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i_am_retarded
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an uncrossed mute? uhh.. like a backscratcher???
Aug 24 2002 10:49PM
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Dirty
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an uncrossed mute is simply an uncrossed mute, a critical is grabbing on the inner edge rather than the outer edge, similar to a 'that grab' from rolling.


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Aug 24 2002 11:08PM
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ESB
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Thanks Dirty, I was wondering what 'that' grab was (no pun intended).

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Aug 24 2002 11:37PM
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LifeJacket
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Who's done any moves with genie in it?

I throw lots of 3 genies

Do i have some secret shit 4 next season or what?


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Aug 24 2002 11:38PM
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BrodyLeven
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on what size skis?

and how do you get bold!?

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Aug 25 2002 12:11AM
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Skier10322
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this is kinda weird but this is what turpin told us at High North.

There are 3 types of Tailgrabs
Tail - Outside of the tail
True Tail - The true tail of the ski
Tail Fish - The inside of the tail
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Aug 25 2002 12:32AM
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Krongos
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what exactly is an illegal, and a rocket?


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Aug 25 2002 12:49AM
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alpentalik
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I don't know, I wouldn't try one though..ya just might get into some kind of trouble.


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Aug 25 2002 2:00AM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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Illigal is a tail grab on outside edge.














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Aug 25 2002 3:10AM
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LifeJacket
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177''cms genie grabs in combos

i think that trick should score huge on stlye just like a zero spin is to dd.


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Aug 25 2002 4:33PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Someone needs to make a grab guide with pics... I dont think i've ever seen a Genie grab, pic or vid.
Aug 25 2002 7:26PM
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ESB
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Don't worry Rekker, that's just what I was doing. If you want to see a genie grab, go find Jon Olsson's Plake's Pick in an old Freeskier.

And to get this clarified... I was under the impression that an illegal was a tail grab with skis parallel (not crossed). Not true?

All of the definitions will soon be coming, newbies hold your horses.

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Aug 25 2002 10:17PM
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Ski_Instructor_Mike
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true.
-Mike

Mercer: drinking mans protein shake
Me: hahhhahahahaha
Mercer: sick ass
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Mercer: good make it your sig on ns.com faggot
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Aug 25 2002 10:44PM
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castlerock
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illegal is an uncrossed tail grab. evan raps did them with his d-spins in 'The Game'.

and i thought a critical is where u grab right hand to left ski either under the front binding or grab mute, and kick out the opposite leg. like a 'mute kang'.

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Aug 26 2002 11:59AM
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Lanemeyers
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It is silly that moving your hand an inch constitues an entire different grab. Sometimes I wink when I grab so that makes it different, like if I wink when I grab mute and I also tweak at the same time then it is called a tweaked winking mute grab, or a winktweak, as the locs call it. Try them, they rule dudes!

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Aug 26 2002 12:04PM
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cosco
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an uncrossed mute is a method in my books
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Aug 26 2002 2:43PM
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That's one I haven't heard before...

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Aug 26 2002 4:20PM
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SteveXs2
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I always thought a mute was uncrossed, and a Mute Cross was the crossed one. I got that from lineskis.com. But a method does sound better and Mute sounds better than Mute Cross.

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Aug 26 2002 5:45PM
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jibs
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There was a sequence in a freeze mag a while back of JF Cusson doing a MASSIVE 360 Genie grab. It was funny because the day before i got the mag i was all stoked because i figured i'd invented a new grab.


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Aug 26 2002 7:47PM
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Krongos
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according to jmmt(the final word lol) a method is when you take your right hand and go under both skis and grab your left ski outside edge, it kinda looks like a snowboarding method in the game but im pretty sure its impossible or would look gay in real life


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10, 1 to do it, and 9 to say 'I can do that.'

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Aug 26 2002 8:33PM
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Well, LaneMeyers, have no fear, because each grab is differentiated by much more than one inch. I hate people who criticize with no basis.

And Steve, I'm pretty sure the term 'mute cross' is archaic by now, it pretty much goes by just 'mute.' So unless anyone throws something else at me, an uncrossed mute goes down in the books as simply 'uncrossed mute.'

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Aug 26 2002 11:05PM
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2TrackProductions
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It's liu kang, not lui kang.
Aug 27 2002 12:19AM
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JATS101
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i got a nice critical pic on my profile you can use
Aug 27 2002 2:31PM
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ESB
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Thanks 2Track and JATS. That's a great pic, by the way.... just what I'm looking for.

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Aug 27 2002 6:57PM
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LifeJacket
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Yo Kongos, methods are sweet on skis, in pipe, and in rodeos, the look pretty crazy.


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Aug 27 2002 7:20PM
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Jibtech
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I'm not sure what these are called but I've seen people doing them,

same hand same ski, inside edge under the boot.

Tail grab, oppisite hand, oppisite ski grab outside edge or true tail, its on the cover of blunt.
Aug 27 2002 7:22PM
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ESB
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Is that the grab like Pollard was busting over the QP in Propaganda? I've been calling it an opposite tail.

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Aug 27 2002 7:39PM
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