Thinner Ski Fear

TreeDogsvishnu keys in 186 could be a good option. Ive ridden stiffer 191s for years and the keys have been a great time! Much more playful than what im used to but not as squirrelly as a wet or a blend. I think theyre like 98mm underfoot? Dont quote me on that

BallClapperCustom Jeff 100, soft flex and tour layup. Should be pretty light in 191.

SurfinCowI daily drove 120s for like the past ten years but this season I got some woodsman 100s and now I never even take the fat skis out even on pow days. Anything around 100-106 is fine for most skiing unless it’s like over a foot of fresh.

jimbobsWide Plus 189 perhaps

bennwithtwonsliberty makes the helix in a 99 waist that comes in 186. plenty of camber so they'll ski longer than something rockered. their skis are light and poppy and for me, at least, super durable

Tin_FishBro i want this. Anyone got a pair I could buy?

Tin_Fishdoes liberty measure short?

jimbobsI'd make a newschoolers BST post saying you're looking for a pair. Snowshare too potentially. They're a pretty niche ski with decent demand, so you might have a rough time finding someone selling a pair during peak season.

Emmett's a one man operation, so he can only do one big drop of skis each year, but his customer service is truly impeccable, so buying brand new during next season's pre-order (usually during spring-summer) honestly isn't a bad move.

Tin_FishThose of you who know these skis, how would you say the 2024 nomad 95 flexes compared to the 2025 reckoner 102? which is softer would you guess?

Also, not a lot of love for the reckoners on this site it seems. Is this just cause of the durability or something else?

BallClapperDurability and k2 is goofy. In the same category as faction. Crazy team meh skis.

bennwithtwonslike a lot of brands, i believe they along the base of the ski, including the curvature of the tips. i measured a few pairs of skis from different brands and it looks like you lose about 2.5cm on average due to the curve. so if you're talking pure linear sizing, they're a bit short compared to the listed length.

freeballerI was under the impression every brand measures like that. Who doesn't? I'm curious about that.

bennwithtwonsi don't know first hand but i've heard people mention that some brands measure after the pressing. i suspect those companies are in the minority, though. k2 might be one that does but i'm only mentioning it because i thought i'd seen someone else make that claim

isaacwrongBeen riding 105's in the park past year a really thinking of going back down to like a 90mm narrow ski. Especially on the east coast where most skiing is ice and my 30 year old knees been taking a beating

Tin_FishDude I agree 100%, just a matter of finding one i guess. I just really want to actually buy something this week so I can ski and Idk if I'll get lucky and find some in my size. I also would love to try the 191 wide plus, but same problem.

But also, did we talk at the top of Madison at Big Sky last week???

SlowbroIf you haven’t tried a lightweight 90mm or so park ski in a while you owe it to yourself. Feels so good once in a while

TreeDogsYo yes most likely! I was up there for two days last weekend, thats a sick coincidence!

And 186 keys are still in stock on the viahnu site if you look under the child labor graphic!

Tin_FishI'm leaning towards the nomads right now (unless I can randomly find some 189 wide plus' 🤪) but Icelandic lowkey gives me rich dad ski feel. In my mind they are the blackcrow equivalent.

Tin_FishBeen deliberating for days now so I am once again turning for help.

Little backstory: I haven't constantly ridden any under 108mm skis for a lot of years now. Most of the time I ski on3p Kartel or Jeff 108 and if there is any new snow I ride 118s.
This last year I had some bad injuries, got surgery, and sold all my skis besides my 118s. Been easing back into skiing the last few weeks as I'm nearing the end of recovery. Think I'll start skiing park again this week.

I'm not throwing anything too crazy but I want something easier for rails & spins and just more fun all around. Plus stiff skis/boots have wrecked the peroneal tendon in my leg. Pain comes back every year and the only think that makes it feel better (besides not skiing) is softer skis and better fitting boots.

I want something soft but not crazy soft like wets or blends. Definitely something lightweight that is better on rails and for spins.

The other issue is I'm a little over 6ft 3 (191cm) so there are limited options for me in the playful park ski category around 100-105mm underfoot. I want something at least 186cm (and I know a lot of brands measure short).

OPTION 1
I can get a really good deal right now on this year's reckoner 102s in 191
(I know they aren't that durable but I can't look past it cause of the discount)

Pros: 102 is the ideal waist wide IMO, Lightweight, & the bases looks really sick

Cons: I skied the 112s from last year for a few runs and they have less early rise and more camber and seem to ski a lot longer and feel less spry than my 191 ON3Ps that I'm used to.


OPTION 2
Also good deal on last years Icelandic nomad 95 in 191 (which I am assuming measures more like 188)

Pros: Seems like they have the perfect flex and the perfect size (188)

Cons: I know I am desensitized, but 95 width just seems sooo narrow to me. I'm mostly going to be using this in the park and when it hasn't snowed in a few days but there will still those days when a rope drops and I'll have to take them in the powder and hit some cliffs etc etc



Overall:
My biggest worry here is that the the nomads are too thin and the reckoners are too floppy to hit big jumps into powder and stomp the occasional decent cliff. I'll definitely be building some backcountry jumps trying to learn a few new tricks this year. Will 95mm be chill for landing in deep powder?

I'm sure this is obvious for many of you but besides clipping into a homie's skis once or twice I legit haven't been on skis like this since I was a kid and don't know what it'll feel like.

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triplecork1440k2 reckoners will treat you so right my petella tendon is torn and i just never got the surgrey and the only skis i can comfortably are wet plus and reckoner 102's they are so lightweight it helps with the pain i highly suggest them

Tin_Fishdang bro sorry to hear that. Glad you can still get out though. How would you say the reckoners ski compared to the wet plus? (besides the width difference)