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Annoyingposer
Posts: 26 - Karma: -12
Yo, why are some people on Newschoolers so toxic? Like, I get that everyone has opinions, but some dudes just hate for no reason. You post a vid of you hitting a new trick, and instead of hyping you up, they just talk trash. Or someone asks a legit question, and people just clown on them instead of helping. It’s mad annoying.

Skiing is supposed to be fun, right? We’re all out here trying to get better and enjoy the sport. But some people act like they’re the kings of freeskiing and anyone who isn’t throwing triples off a backcountry jump doesn’t belong. Like, chill. Not everyone is trying to be a pro.

I understand that joking around is part of the culture, and a little roasting can be funny. But some people take it way too far and just bring negative energy. Why does NS have so many people like that? A change in attitude would make it so much more inviting. This is based off of my experience, what do you all think?
Jan 8 2025 3:37PM
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keagan.karstens
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It’s an easy outlet for people to project their insecurities

edit: myself included, I’ve been there and it’s something I try to avoid now

**This post was edited on Jan 8th 2025 at 3:49:17pm
Jan 8 2025 3:48PM
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Biffbarf
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Yo, why are some people on Newschoolers so toxic? Like, I get that everyone has opinions, but some dudes just hate for no reason. You post a vid of you hitting a new trick, and instead of hyping you up, they just talk trash. Or someone asks a legit question, and people just clown on them instead of helping. It’s mad annoying.

Skiing is supposed to be fun, right? We’re all out here trying to get better and enjoy the sport. But some people act like they’re the kings of freeskiing and anyone who isn’t throwing triples off a backcountry jump doesn’t belong. Like, chill. Not everyone is trying to be a pro.

I understand that joking around is part of the culture, and a little roasting can be funny. But some people take it way too far and just bring negative energy. Why does NS have so many people like that? A change in attitude would make it so much more inviting. This is based off of my experience, what do you all think?
Jan 8 2025 4:09PM
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Jibbcore
Posts: 408 - Karma: 497
Theyre mad cuz they dont got any steez
Jan 8 2025 4:24PM
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BLandz
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90% of the people who are disrespectful don’t have an ig tagged or any way to know who they are. If you’re being disrespectful to other people on an anonymous profile you’re a pussy, don’t even worry about those dudes.

However, if you want my brutally honest opinion, I think the ski community is soft as fuck, its kind of pathetic. It seems like you aren’t allowed to have a real opinion or else people label you as a hater. IMO These dudes being dickheads in threads is the consequence of a particular demographic of ski culture fighting back against the toxic positivity mindset a lot of people have. Not everything is sick and awesome all the time, and thats okay. Unfortunately, these guys take it out on the wrong people because they are retarded but its whatever. Use it a life lesson and continue to post what you believe in and don’t let dickheads make you upset, but also don’t write off every negative comment as “hate”, because there might be some truth/value in what they are saying. Use it to strengthen yourself and refine your thought process.
Jan 8 2025 4:36PM
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Evancantspin
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I’ve seen like 4 posts/threads about people against hating on Newschoolers but I never even see the hate like I think Newschoolers is a pretty positive space in my experience. I’m not saying they’re aren’t outliers like skierman but he funny and chill vro.
Jan 8 2025 4:40PM
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Annoyingposer
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BLandz90% of the people who are disrespectful don’t have an ig tagged or any way to know who they are. If you’re being disrespectful to other people on an anonymous profile you’re a pussy, don’t even worry about those dudes.

However, if you want my brutally honest opinion, I think the ski community is soft as fuck, its kind of pathetic. It seems like you aren’t allowed to have a real opinion or else people label you as a hater. IMO These dudes being dickheads in threads is the consequence of a particular demographic of ski culture fighting back against the toxic positivity mindset a lot of people have. Not everything is sick and awesome all the time, and thats okay. Unfortunately, these guys take it out on the wrong people because they are retarded but its whatever. Use it a life lesson and continue to post what you believe in and don’t let dickheads make you upset, but also don’t write off every negative comment as “hate”, because there might be some truth/value in what they are saying. Use it to strengthen yourself and refine your thought process.


Yeah definitely, I am for the most part referring to dudes who just leave the most utterly wasted comments on a basic question or statement. Especially when having the simple choice of saying something nice or not saying anything at all. But not everything should be seen as hate just like you say, I just think that there is somewhat of a line between critique and straight up hating one another.
Jan 8 2025 4:45PM
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hi_vis360
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I will take people being ruthless on NS over the passive aggressive bullshit on instagam any day
Jan 8 2025 5:06PM
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BallClapper
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Letting off steam and being a turd here is much less harmful than crashing out irl.
Jan 8 2025 5:10PM
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flat0
Posts: 68 - Karma: 12
Because it’s funny
Jan 8 2025 5:11PM
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BLandz
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EvancantspinI’ve seen like 4 posts/threads about people against hating on Newschoolers but I never even see the hate like I think Newschoolers is a pretty positive space in my experience. I’m not saying they’re aren’t outliers like skierman but he funny and chill vro.


AnnoyingposerYeah definitely, I am for the most part referring to dudes who just leave the most utterly wasted comments on a basic question or statement. Especially when having the simple choice of saying something nice or not saying anything at all. But not everything should be seen as hate just like you say, I just think that there is somewhat of a line between critique and straight up hating one another.

OP is most likely referring to when somebody makes a “what size ski thread” or a “what axis is this trick” video.

In which case, its people who have been on NS for a while, who understand NS culture. And in NS culture, you can’t make 1000 repeat threads, you should use the searchbar, so they get hostile over it. Or are expected to know the axis of their trick because its usually pretty obvious.

It is super shitty for newcomers in that regard ngl. People that have used NS for a while know that its an easy karma farm to shit on someone who dropped a repeat thread so thats what they do.

In that sense I totally agree with OP. That kinda stuff pisses me off too
Jan 8 2025 5:14PM
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hi_vis360
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People on NS will just call you a dumbass.

On insta they will make an entire meme account indirectly attacking they type of person you are without attacking you directly and rack up a bunch of followers, so now you have no idea if hundreds of people are laughing at you or not.
Jan 8 2025 5:16PM
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GorillaMarketGMK
Posts: 175 - Karma: 761
BLandzOP is most likely referring to when somebody makes a “what size ski thread” or a “what axis is this trick” video.

In which case, its people who have been on NS for a while, who understand NS culture. And in NS culture, you can’t make 1000 repeat threads, you should use the searchbar, so they get hostile over it. Or are expected to know the axis of their trick because its usually pretty obvious.

It is super shitty for newcomers in that regard ngl. People that have used NS for a while know that its an easy karma farm to shit on someone who dropped a repeat thread so thats what they do.

In that sense I totally agree with OP. That kinda stuff pisses me off too


It’s funny though because like what does the karma even do anyway, other than let people see if you’re a cunt/troll or a normal person with a sense of respect for others.
Jan 8 2025 5:22PM
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270on420out
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Nah bro this site used to be so much worse lmao. I remember when every response to a thread was either mocking, sarcastic, or mean. Middle school me loved watching millennials roast each other but I’m glad to see how much more generally supportive todays ski community is compared to the one I grew up with. I’m sorry you attracted the ire of some random douchebag.
Jan 8 2025 5:32PM
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PeteMahn
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Is this a joke lol. Back in 2008 - 2014 there was hate / shit talking. That's also what made the site dope in certain ways as it made things competitive / raised the bar. Look at the Tanner VS. Simon pipe days and same thing with the 4BI9 vs Level 1 rivalry. Newschoolers in this day and age has very little hating and beef but look at the numbers compared to then. Would you rather have a video with 5 - 10K views with some hate comments or 1K views no one interaction. I think there needs to be a balance between hate and criticism but I personally would prefer something over nothing. These days this site is dead compared to 10 years ago.
Jan 8 2025 8:13PM
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CRtrailing
Posts: 107 - Karma: 811
I haven't been on newschoolers for very long, but personally I have only seen one person get hate for posting tricks/videos, and even then it was only a few people hating because they were posting like 5 videos a day. Honestly, it seems that 99% people get clowned for not using the search bar before posting.
Jan 8 2025 8:47PM
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theed
Posts: 25 - Karma: 165
Do you not understand internet bro? lmao.

NS was the wild west before the snowflakes

peak entertainment
Jan 8 2025 8:52PM
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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I always try to help the new guys with questions but some people get tired of the same question over and over. As mentioned, some make some sarcastic comment to get upvotes. Some just troll for the sake of trolling.

However, I’ve got to say that the whole scene is wayyy more chill than it was when I was growing up. I remember going to some website (I forget the name) that had maps and stats of different parks. It was just filled with skiers and snowboarders arguing and challenging each other to fights. Newschoolers was a different ballgame then too.

You’ve got to realize that park skiing was the redheaded stepchild for quite awhile. I remember being a kid and I wasn’t allowed in the park with skis *snowboarders only*. Then snowboarding got into the Olympics before us. Almost 20 years before us. Not that that matters, but it does reflect societal views. So, for the longest time, park skiing had a certain chip on its shoulder because it fell between snowboarding, freestyle skiing (moguls), and normal skiing. Combine that with inadequate safety gear, undiagnosed concussions, a hard lifestyle with low pay… That all probably influenced a lot of these behaviors you see and perceive that developed from the park ecosystem.
Jan 8 2025 9:00PM
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SmokedGouda
Posts: 1096 - Karma: 6,129
Some people just choose to eat cold provolone and rub bleu cheese spread on their bellies. What normal person does this?
Jan 8 2025 9:37PM
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FreakSchoolers
Posts: 290 - Karma: 1,236
why tf u always have to find a way to hate? u always just spreading negativity making everyone upset and mad. its christmas time now is the time to be even a little positive. the reason u do that is you just try to push your depression into other people. grow tf up
Jan 8 2025 11:09PM
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BallClapper
Posts: 3274 - Karma: 14,201
SmokedGoudaSome people just choose to eat cold provolone and rub bleu cheese spread on their bellies. What normal person does this?


W quote.
Jan 8 2025 11:10PM
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Biffbarf
Posts: 6775 - Karma: 72,264
BLandz90% of the people who are disrespectful don’t have an ig tagged or any way to know who they are. If you’re being disrespectful to other people on an anonymous profile you’re a pussy, don’t even worry about those dudes.

However, if you want my brutally honest opinion, I think the ski community is soft as fuck, its kind of pathetic. It seems like you aren’t allowed to have a real opinion or else people label you as a hater. IMO These dudes being dickheads in threads is the consequence of a particular demographic of ski culture fighting back against the toxic positivity mindset a lot of people have. Not everything is sick and awesome all the time, and thats okay. Unfortunately, these guys take it out on the wrong people because they are retarded but its whatever. Use it a life lesson and continue to post what you believe in and don’t let dickheads make you upset, but also don’t write off every negative comment as “hate”, because there might be some truth/value in what they are saying. Use it to strengthen yourself and refine your thought process.


Blandz dropping truth on everything he touches as usual
Jan 8 2025 11:11PM
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jimbobs
Posts: 342 - Karma: 3,342
Feel like this account is just stirring shit up at this point. There's a healthy mix of helpful advice and banter here.
Jan 9 2025 10:33AM
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skiP.E.I.
Posts: 7857 - Karma: 22,341
If you think it's 'toxic' now you would have had an aneurysm being on here in 2007.
Jan 9 2025 10:37AM
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Annoyingposer
Posts: 26 - Karma: -12
skiP.E.I.If you think it's 'toxic' now you would have had an aneurysm being on here in 2007.


Probably but I am going to delete my profile now, this acc is doomed.
Jan 9 2025 10:45AM
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jimbobs
Posts: 342 - Karma: 3,342
Also go look at your own threads, everyone in here is being constructive. Some were harsh, but most folks were positive and helpful.

https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/940360/Is-this-a-lincoln-
Jan 9 2025 11:06AM
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eheath
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average reddit post
Jan 9 2025 11:50AM
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oldmanski
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Skiing IS fun and welcome to the fam OP. Hang in there. Consider the first few months here a hazing in a weird way. Nobody is out to get you; people are just making sure you can hang. Keep asking questions, the worst question is the one never asked.
Jan 9 2025 12:11PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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@skierman
Jan 9 2025 1:19PM
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theabortionator
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Idk man, you haven't even seen toxic NS lol. The internet was "different " at one point. Sure there are some fixtures from the olden days that never left, and some weirdo angry types, but this place is as supportive as its ever been imo.

Also pretty surprising that you got hate on a video. I almost only see good feedback, tips, people stoking kids out when learning. Both on NS and the mtn in general.

Like the worst of 90s culture was a thing. Showing up at the hill or skatepark was borederline or probably actually hazing.

But yeah idk, don't let it get you down. Lot's of cool helpful people on here and the terrain parks and skateparks are as friendly and supportive as I've ever seen.

Plenty of different ability levels but people are hyped that you're doing the thing.

I suck at skating but i remember this indoor bowl. 6 to 8'. I ate shit a few times trying to get a bs rock. Not even super hard but took me out a few times. When i got it people were cheering as if i did something sick. And some of them were airing the deep end and over the hip. But it's just about seeing people go for it and keep trying.

It could be a 360, it could be a double cork. It's the same thing. If skiing is fun have fun. Fuck the haters. Yolo or something
Jan 9 2025 1:34PM
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CalumSKI
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toxicity is only valid when its funny
skierman-type rage bait is just annoying asf
Jan 9 2025 3:35PM
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KilaTsunami
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Right? What happened to my Hate Free season?! Don't let me down yall
Jan 9 2025 7:04PM
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Young_patty
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Eh, more so than other forums? Totally.

Can you also get constructive, positive, and quality advice on here? Totally.

I’ve met some awesome people and made friends through here.
I’ve also out right cyber-bullied the owner of a popular ski company through here.

Newschoolers is what you make it to be.
Jan 9 2025 7:31PM
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theabortionator
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Young_pattyEh, more so than other forums? Totally.

Can you also get constructive, positive, and quality advice on here? Totally.

I’ve met some awesome people and made friends through here.
I’ve also out right cyber-bullied the owner of a popular ski company through here.

Newschoolers is what you make it to be.


I think i might have gone cliff jumping with you and slept on your couch in bozeman
Jan 9 2025 7:39PM
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Young_patty
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theabortionatorI think i might have gone cliff jumping with you and slept on your couch in bozeman


I think the cliff jumping was with @ReturnToMonkey ?
But yeah you did crash on my couch! Was awesome meeting you after knowing you only by username. I remember you had really great tastes in ski/snowboard/skate edits. I’ve also gotten beers with @ModMommy too, and she’s just as much of a cool older sister figure irl as she is on here.

Plus I founded ZeroZone with @Jems and @ReturnToMonkey , met even more friends through a NS group chat in college, and have had plenty of skiers irl call me out using my NS username haha.

Really goes to show how great the community is here, it’s surprisingly had a profound impact on my life.
Jan 9 2025 7:57PM
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ModMommy
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Young_pattyI think the cliff jumping was with @ReturnToMonkey ?
But yeah you did crash on my couch! Was awesome meeting you after knowing you only by username. I remember you had really great tastes in ski/snowboard/skate edits. I’ve also gotten beers with @ModMommy too, and she’s just as much of a cool older sister figure irl as she is on here.

Plus I founded ZeroZone with @Jems and @ReturnToMonkey , met even more friends through a NS group chat in college, and have had plenty of skiers irl call me out using my NS username haha.

Really goes to show how great the community is here, it’s surprisingly had a profound impact on my life.


Bridger Brewing forever
Jan 10 2025 6:27AM
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2PlanksNoBrakes
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Man up
Jan 10 2025 7:54AM
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little1337
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Wtf do you guys mean “toxic positivity”? Bro it’s a skiing website, we’re not solving the Israel Palestine conflict here. No one is getting serious life advice and taking ‘hard truths’ from you guys lol, you just come off as an asshole 99% of the time.
Jan 10 2025 8:04AM
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skierman
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What's up with all these Reddit fuck boys joining NS only to bitch about NS?


How about you crawl back up inside your mom's ragged pussy where no one can say naughty things to you, you sensitive little fetus.
Jan 10 2025 8:24AM
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BallClapper
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Many folk here have provided solid life advice.
little1337No one is getting serious life advice and taking ‘hard truths’ from you guys lol,
Jan 10 2025 8:59AM
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little1337
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BallClapperMany folk here have provided solid life advice.


I definitely agree that there are some members here who give good advice. Let me rephrase:

The people who are complaining about toxic positivity are not those members. Their advice is always just some iteration of ‘you’re cooked’ or ‘it’s over’, never anything meaningful or actually helpful.

I’m not saying everything has to be a pat on the back, sometimes the truth hurts, but at least try to give some input and move the conversation forward instead of just shitting on someone because you can.
Jan 10 2025 9:23AM
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skiP.E.I.
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theabortionatorIdk man, you haven't even seen toxic NS lol. The internet was "different " at one point.



Like the worst of 90s culture was a thing. Showing up at the hill or skatepark was borederline or probably actually hazing.

This is so real. Fights every day, you’d get beaten up or robbed, forced to fight another youngster or at best ignored unless you were really talented.
Jan 10 2025 9:27AM
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Jems
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fun
Jan 10 2025 11:11AM
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CalumSKI
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skiP.E.I.This is so real. Fights every day, you’d get beaten up or robbed, forced to fight another youngster or at best ignored unless you were really talented.


frl i remember my first day in the park
had to take on like 4 park skiers in hand-to-hand combat in order to gain their respect
Jan 10 2025 1:10PM
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FruitBootPro
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skiermanWhat's up with all these Reddit fuck boys joining NS only to bitch about NS?


How about you crawl back up inside your mom's ragged pussy where no one can say naughty things to you, you sensitive little fetus.

this is how you felt writing that



how old are you at this point?
Jan 10 2025 5:33PM
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Slugger66
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If you think NS is toxic now, you should've seen this place in 2010 LOL
Jan 10 2025 5:35PM
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BingPow
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Skiing is dank af rn, watching Syrjas run in the recent WC big air got me juiced. The deeper the valley the bigger the mountain. LFG
Jan 10 2025 6:17PM
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Crossfade
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guys, let's make bullying kill itself
Jan 10 2025 6:59PM
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Speed=steez
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Weak ass. I littrly smoke fucking crack
Jan 11 2025 2:42AM
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Speed=steez
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Bichass i fr smoke crack
Jan 11 2025 2:43AM
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Speed=steez
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Bro prolly uses mainstream shit gear like capeesh, harlaut n vishnu lol
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