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I like the STH bindings, but don't have much experience with the strive.
It looks like the same heel piece. Is the hole pattern the same?
How does durability/functionality compare?
from what I heard the strive is a little better for park than the STH, its platform is a lot lower and closer to the ski. Strive appears to just be the modernized version of the STH?
heel piece is only the same as sth on the strive 16. otherwise similar binding but no similar parts. strive have lower stack height but are all plastic, haven't seen any blow up yet tho
nOtyRmOmheel piece is only the same as sth on the strive 16. otherwise similar binding but no similar parts. strive have lower stack height but are all plastic, haven't seen any blow up yet tho
16’s both have the sth2 heel with the same pattern. Toe patterns are different. Ski wise they feel the same. Upside to the strive is not needing to adjust the toe wings like the sth’s. If you have the gripwalk version the height is also auto adjusted. If you have the mnc you have to manually adjust the height with a screw but it’s super easy. I have mnc’s and have had zero issues with them. Also have sth2’s and other than having to make sure the toe wings stay properly adjusted no issues with those either.
PartyBullshiit16’s both have the sth2 heel with the same pattern. Toe patterns are different. Ski wise they feel the same. Upside to the strive is not needing to adjust the toe wings like the sth’s. If you have the gripwalk version the height is also auto adjusted. If you have the mnc you have to manually adjust the height with a screw but it’s super easy. I have mnc’s and have had zero issues with them. Also have sth2’s and other than having to make sure the toe wings stay properly adjusted no issues with those either.
I thought the Strive 16 only came with the manual adjust MNC toe?
The more important question is do you do a lot of park skiing? If so, I would avoid the Strive 14 and go for the attack 14. Look at the image below to see the massive difference in stack height. strive 14 is on the right side.
Jimmer369The more important question is do you do a lot of park skiing? If so, I would avoid the Strive 14 and go for the attack 14. Look at the image below to see the massive difference in stack height. strive 14 is on the right side.
Jimmer369The more important question is do you do a lot of park skiing? If so, I would avoid the Strive 14 and go for the attack 14. Look at the image below to see the massive difference in stack height. strive 14 is on the right side.
Jimmer369The more important question is do you do a lot of park skiing? If so, I would avoid the Strive 14 and go for the attack 14. Look at the image below to see the massive difference in stack height. strive 14 is on the right side.
People always complain about STH stack height and how the track changes the way the ski flexes but i’ve never felt like it has negatively impacted my skiing in any way. Practically speaking, I don’t think any of that shit matters as much as people say it does
Jimmer369The more important question is do you do a lot of park skiing? If so, I would avoid the Strive 14 and go for the attack 14. Look at the image below to see the massive difference in stack height. strive 14 is on the right side.
Thanks for the response. I have attack 14s. Great bindings but they have proven to wear out significantly faster than my sth 16s purchased around the same time. I’m not interested in Attacks. My only purpose in making this thread is to know how folks find the strive 16 in comparison to the STH 16. I prefer pivots but it really doesn’t make that much difference to me and can get STH and Strives significantly cheaper.
skiP.E.I.Thanks for the response. I have attack 14s. Great bindings but they have proven to wear out significantly faster than my sth 16s purchased around the same time. I’m not interested in Attacks. My only purpose in making this thread is to know how folks find the strive 16 in comparison to the STH 16. I prefer pivots but it really doesn’t make that much difference to me and can get STH and Strives significantly cheaper.
BLandzPeople always complain about STH stack height and how the track changes the way the ski flexes but i’ve never felt like it has negatively impacted my skiing in any way. Practically speaking, I don’t think any of that shit matters as much as people say it does
It's not the height but the fwd lean it adds which makes me prefer pivots
they are not super durable. I have skied mine like 20 days and one of the afd sliders broke off entirely. The other one is also chipped. Armada wouldn't help me warranty them or even get a spare toe piece to fix them. wish they were better because they are really light and convenient for hiking
I've ridden STH 16s for a good while now, I don't really ski park much, and the fact that this year Marcus Caston chose to mount his skis with STHs and not Strives makes me think I should follow suit too.
One thing to note, I've had pre-release issues in the GW Strive when using traditional Alpine soles. For aggressive skiing, I'd defs recommend going with the MN, with the manual toe height adjustment.
quagsireOne thing to note, I've had pre-release issues in the GW Strive when using traditional Alpine soles. For aggressive skiing, I'd defs recommend going with the MN, with the manual toe height adjustment.
Does the MNC one have the big AFD homey is looking at in earlier posts? Or are the GW and MNC AFDs the same stack height?
Jimmer369The photo I linked is the GW version. The MN would have an even higher stack height because it needs to fit a variety of boot soles.
This is incorrect. The AFD height is the same, the adjustment is made by raising and lowering the toe wings. Also, a couple mm difference in stack height isn't that big a deal i.m.o.
Non_State_ActorDoes the MNC one have the big AFD homey is looking at in earlier posts? Or are the GW and MNC AFDs the same stack height?
Stack height is the same on both gw and mn. They both share the same 72mm sliding afd. Same part number for replacement. The differences is the gw has the auto adjusting toe that can only go high enough for gw. Mn has the manual adjustment toe get high enough for touring soles. The afd is static height Wise.
quagsireOne thing to note, I've had pre-release issues in the GW Strive when using traditional Alpine soles. For aggressive skiing, I'd defs recommend going with the MN, with the manual toe height adjustment.
Have you also rode the MNC’s yourself? Do you think that the MNC’s are a better binding? I have STH2 MNC’s, I plan on riding Strives or STH again in the future. Do you think its a good idea to stay away form the GW’s?
BLandzHave you also rode the MNC’s yourself? Do you think that the MNC’s are a better binding? I have STH2 MNC’s, I plan on riding Strives or STH again in the future. Do you think its a good idea to stay away form the GW’s?
Admittedly I've only actually skied the GW version, but I think the auto-adjusting mechanism is what was causing me to get pre-releases from the toe. The toe wings on the GW are able to slightly lever up with the boot engaged, in order to accomodate for GW boot soles, whereas on the MN binding, the toe wings are solidly held in place by the screw adjustment. I think the 16 MN is the way to go if you're planning on getting Strives.
BLandzHave you also rode the MNC’s yourself? Do you think that the MNC’s are a better binding? I have STH2 MNC’s, I plan on riding Strives or STH again in the future. Do you think its a good idea to stay away form the GW’s?
I ski the mn on the sth2 16 and strive 16’s and am very happy with them. They feel rock solid adjustment wise.
