Sick skiers with sever shin bang, how do you do it

Voyage86i have shin problems, i get shin splints and bruises very easily. This brace prevents hyper flection which is when the bone bends to a point that causes a micro fracture. no amount of muscle will prevent my bone from bending from the force of a back seat landing. Getting stronger sadly won’t help me here. Beyond that you are talking to a guy who squatted 315 at 160 body weight a year ago. I don’t squat that heavy anymore, i’m more a split squat and front squat guy now to prevent injury. I truly don’t think strength is a factor here in anyway

Your #1 problem is weak legs. Your second is bad form. Your third is you’re in the wrong boot. Fix #1 first which will help with #2 as in turn you could deal with #3. There’s a reason absolutely nobody makes a ski boot with a goofy piece of plastic riding up the back of your leg.

you’ve just created a band aid that really isn't going to fix anything. It’s going to do you more harm than good in the long run.

**This post was edited on Jan 20th 2025 at 1:17:28am

PartyBullshiitYour #1 problem is weak legs. Your second is bad form. Your third is you’re in the wrong boot. Fix #1 first which will help with #2 as in turn you could deal with #3. There’s a reason absolutely nobody makes a ski boot with a goofy piece of plastic riding up the back of your leg.

you’ve just created a band aid that really isn't going to fix anything. It’s going to do you more harm than good in the long run.

**This post was edited on Jan 20th 2025 at 1:17:28am

I can't say I haven't thought about extending my ski boot up like Eric Pollard before either, just because I figure as a taller person, it would make a lot of sense to have a proportionally taller boot, but the fact is no one else does that just because they're tall from what I see and they all still rip

All I know is that redneck bootfitting solution you ended up with is not how they do it.

PartyBullshiitYour #1 problem is weak legs. Your second is bad form. Your third is you’re in the wrong boot. Fix #1 first which will help with #2 as in turn you could deal with #3. There’s a reason absolutely nobody makes a ski boot with a goofy piece of plastic riding up the back of your leg.

you’ve just created a band aid that really isn't going to fix anything. It’s going to do you more harm than good in the long run.

**This post was edited on Jan 20th 2025 at 1:17:28am

that’s weird because my boot fitter disagrees with you, erik pollard did something super similar, i’m stronger than 90% of people out there, and my contraption has fixed everything. I think the reason people don’t do things like this is because they are to focused on what others will think, aren’t creative enough and don’t have the balls to try it out. I’ll be skiing pain free for the rest of my life with this simple brace and that’s all that matters. I’ll try and get a clip together today which will be my 4th day in a row skiing pain free which i have never been able to do before. You can watch the clip and let me know how bad my form is.

KungKalmarAll I know is that redneck bootfitting solution you ended up with is not how they do it.

exactly why i had to try it. Nothing els worked and nothing any one suggested seemed to me like it would work. my boot fitter confirmed that fact. This made logical sense before hand and has proven to work great for me. just because it’s not how they do it doesn’t mean it don’t work

BigPurpleSkiSuitI can't say I haven't thought about extending my ski boot up like Eric Pollard before either, just because I figure as a taller person, it would make a lot of sense to have a proportionally taller boot, but the fact is no one else does that just because they're tall from what I see and they all still rip

erik pollard did it specifically to gain more controll. Just because people who don’t have this rip doesn’t mean this couldn’t make skiing less painful and easier for them. erik pollard obviously thought so, and i can attest to it as well. try it out if you want, kydex is 15$ bucks per square foot, two sheets on amazon is all you need. from there you just need an oven, a power saw of some kind, a drill and some screws. that’s it

Voyage86that’s weird because my boot fitter disagrees with you, erik pollard did something super similar, i’m stronger than 90% of people out there, and my contraption has fixed everything. I think the reason people don’t do things like this is because they are to focused on what others will think, aren’t creative enough and don’t have the balls to try it out. I’ll be skiing pain free for the rest of my life with this simple brace and that’s all that matters. I’ll try and get a clip together today which will be my 4th day in a row skiing pain free which i have never been able to do before. You can watch the clip and let me know how bad my form is.

Your boot fitter can disagree all he wants. Your results says he’s absolutely wrong. You shouldn’t have the issues you’re having if all three issues I mentioned were corrected.

if you remove your goofy contraption which is just masking your issues you’ll be in pain again. Hmmmmm why would that Be? Because you need to strengthen your legs, fix your form and get in a better fitting boot.

PartyBullshiitYour boot fitter can disagree all he wants. Your results says he’s absolutely wrong. You shouldn’t have the issues you’re having if all three issues I mentioned were corrected.

if you remove your goofy contraption which is just masking your issues you’ll be in pain again. Hmmmmm why would that Be? Because you need to strengthen your legs, fix your form and get in a better fitting boot.

what do you have to say about expert skiers who compete at super high levels and have the exact same issue as me? My literal bone is weak, not my muscles. muscles have no persuasion over the flex of your shin bone forward or back. Some people have shin bones that don’t get affected and some like me do, that’s just how it is

Voyage86what do you have to say about expert skiers who compete at super high levels and have the exact same issue as me? My literal bone is weak, not my muscles. muscles have no persuasion over the flex of your shin bone forward or back. Some people have shin bones that don’t get affected and some like me do, that’s just how it is

If you are stronger, you have a better ability to not hyperflex backwards in the first place. You saying that your muscles "have no persuasion over the flex of your shin bone" is wrong, what do you think is driving your shin forward into your boot when you want to initiate a turn? You being stronger will absolutely help you.
Also if your bone is weak, give it time to rest. If it still hurts while skiing with a normal boot then you probably shouldn't be skiing yet, and you should talk about that with your doctor. Shin splints are no joke, i've had friends ignore them for a season then had to spend the whole summer in a cast because it got too bad. You are injured, it's ok to take time off to rest up well and train properly in the summer, then refine your technique, and come back stronger. Happens to us all.
Once again, you came to this thread for a second time asking for advice and thoughts and you still continue to ignore them and pull the 'I know better than thou' card when you clearly don't seeing as how every person in here is telling you you are wrong (this is not a he said she said type thing). Go with your problems and foot to a new bootfitter since your bootfitter does not want to admit that he is wrong, and see what they think.
You are also saying you have good technique but then this behemoth you slapped to the back of your boot only supports you backwards and you say it helps, so you are clearly spending too much time skiing backseat.
Steps to help guide you: 1. Go see doctor and rest and recover from your injured shin. 2. See a new bootfitter and get a second opinion. 3. Spend the summer and early next season in the gym doing proper workouts (think dynamic and powerful) 4. go see a coach and get actually good technique. 5. Ski pain free without a silly looking boot.

Voyage86what do you have to say about expert skiers who compete at super high levels and have the exact same issue as me? My literal bone is weak, not my muscles. muscles have no persuasion over the flex of your shin bone forward or back. Some people have shin bones that don’t get affected and some like me do, that’s just how it is

I see that pro athletes go to the gym and work on their strength first most of them already have good technique so that’s not a problem. they’re also properly fitting boots which is why you do not see pro athletes, riding around in ghetto rigs like yours to mask the bigger problems at hand. They fixed the core issues first being strength technique, and proper boots.

snormanIf you are stronger, you have a better ability to not hyperflex backwards in the first place. You saying that your muscles "have no persuasion over the flex of your shin bone" is wrong, what do you think is driving your shin forward into your boot when you want to initiate a turn? You being stronger will absolutely help you.
Also if your bone is weak, give it time to rest. If it still hurts while skiing with a normal boot then you probably shouldn't be skiing yet, and you should talk about that with your doctor. Shin splints are no joke, i've had friends ignore them for a season then had to spend the whole summer in a cast because it got too bad. You are injured, it's ok to take time off to rest up well and train properly in the summer, then refine your technique, and come back stronger. Happens to us all.
Once again, you came to this thread for a second time asking for advice and thoughts and you still continue to ignore them and pull the 'I know better than thou' card when you clearly don't seeing as how every person in here is telling you you are wrong (this is not a he said she said type thing). Go with your problems and foot to a new bootfitter since your bootfitter does not want to admit that he is wrong, and see what they think.
You are also saying you have good technique but then this behemoth you slapped to the back of your boot only supports you backwards and you say it helps, so you are clearly spending too much time skiing backseat.
Steps to help guide you: 1. Go see doctor and rest and recover from your injured shin. 2. See a new bootfitter and get a second opinion. 3. Spend the summer and early next season in the gym doing proper workouts (think dynamic and powerful) 4. go see a coach and get actually good technique. 5. Ski pain free without a silly looking boot.

1. my shin is healed and i have zero pain skiing what so ever. I promise my shin is healed. this was confirmed by an MRI.
2. 98% of the time my calf does not even touch the brace when i am skiing, as i said before the brace lets be tail butter completely pain free and the two times I landed back seat over the last 5 ski days, the brace made it so my shin didn’t hyperflex at all and i skied out of the landing pain free, something i never was able to do before.
3. your muscles don’t persuade the flex of your bones at all. With no external forces on a bone, it is impossible for you to bend a bone using your muscles surrounding that bone. The bone flexes when an external forces resists or opposes the inertia of the bones current movement, hence my shin moving backwards in a back seat landing and the back of the ski boot opposes the force causing the shin bone to bend over top of the boot as the upper half of the shin bone keeps its momentum while the bottom half is stoped, all i have done with this brace is raise the point on my leg which my bone would bend over. super simple logic that has proved to work great.

PartyBullshiitI see that pro athletes go to the gym and work on their strength first most of them already have good technique so that’s not a problem. they’re also properly fitting boots which is why you do not see pro athletes, riding around in ghetto rigs like yours to mask the bigger problems at hand. They fixed the core issues first being strength technique, and proper boots.

I squat 315, i am super flexible, i can do as many pistol squats on both legs as i want. I lift 3-4 times a week, bike 5 miles 2 times a week and can probably max out any calf raise machine you show me. I’m just not exactly sure where i would be lacking in strength. 3 years ago i stopped taking lessons because i graduated from my ski school (I reached level 8, there were 8 levels) but before that i took a ski lesson every Sunday during the season for 6 years straight. If i wanted to i could have gotten my ski instructor cert to teach kids at that ski school. I promise you my issue goes beyond strength and technique. At this point now 4 different boot fitters have seen my boots for various little punches and advice and not one of them was ever concerned with me being in the wrong boot. my foot is a 27 and i’m in a 26.5, they fit great, and ski great and after my mod there isn’t a single issue with my legs or with the boots.

Voyage86I squat 315, i am super flexible, i can do as many pistol squats on both legs as i want. I lift 3-4 times a week, bike 5 miles 2 times a week and can probably max out any calf raise machine you show me. I’m just not exactly sure where i would be lacking in strength. 3 years ago i stopped taking lessons because i graduated from my ski school (I reached level 8, there were 8 levels) but before that i took a ski lesson every Sunday during the season for 6 years straight. If i wanted to i could have gotten my ski instructor cert to teach kids at that ski school. I promise you my issue goes beyond strength and technique. At this point now 4 different boot fitters have seen my boots for various little punches and advice and not one of them was ever concerned with me being in the wrong boot. my foot is a 27 and i’m in a 26.5, they fit great, and ski great and after my mod there isn’t a single issue with my legs or with the boots.

So I know you ignored me before and most likely will again, but here it goes.
What you are describing makes it sound like you are suffering/ suffered from a stress fracture. This fracture probably occurred because your off season training wasn't sufficient to support your skiing. Most likely you went from being pretty seditary or from low impact training into a high impact sport, and continuing with the high impact sport after feeling some minor pain without rest led to your fracture.

As others have said, it is a strength thing. Lifting heavy isn't the only way to train- and it shouldn't be for skiing. Your legs aren't used to the strain you are putting them under, so you need to rest and reevaluate how you train to better address your strength issues.

If you feel you have a bone deformity, which also causes your shin splints, you should absolutely talk to your doctor about that. I assume you don't though, otherwise someone might have said something after looking at your scans.

PoikenzSo I know you ignored me before and most likely will again, but here it goes.
What you are describing makes it sound like you are suffering/ suffered from a stress fracture. This fracture probably occurred because your off season training wasn't sufficient to support your skiing. Most likely you went from being pretty seditary or from low impact training into a high impact sport, and continuing with the high impact sport after feeling some minor pain without rest led to your fracture.

As others have said, it is a strength thing. Lifting heavy isn't the only way to train- and it shouldn't be for skiing. Your legs aren't used to the strain you are putting them under, so you need to rest and reevaluate how you train to better address your strength issues.

If you feel you have a bone deformity, which also causes your shin splints, you should absolutely talk to your doctor about that. I assume you don't though, otherwise someone might have said something after looking at your scans.

i did get a fracture, however the orthopedic surgeon told me it was from hyperflexion based on the MRI. I’ve had shin issues since freshman year of highschool and have had the same issues while skiing since ever. It is true that skiing is more impact than i experience over the summer but even mid or late season after months of skiing, even when i am experiencing no current pain, i have been susceptible to these types of injuries, thats why i dont think its fully a conditioning thing, its just how my shins are for the most part. I have started muay thai to try and condition my shins specifically and will keep doing that through the off season so we will see if i get any results from that.

Voyage86i did get a fracture, however the orthopedic surgeon told me it was from hyperflexion based on the MRI. I’ve had shin issues since freshman year of highschool and have had the same issues while skiing since ever. It is true that skiing is more impact than i experience over the summer but even mid or late season after months of skiing, even when i am experiencing no current pain, i have been susceptible to these types of injuries, thats why i dont think its fully a conditioning thing, its just how my shins are for the most part. I have started muay thai to try and condition my shins specifically and will keep doing that through the off season so we will see if i get any results from that.

Again, maybe you misunderstood your surgeon, but if they used the term hyperflexion they would be referring to your knee, ankle, or foot and not your tib/fib. An mri can only diagnose problems, so your surgeon being able to say what happened to you would only be a best guess based on what you told them and not really dependent on the results of the mri.

And while you claim you've taken time to heal, if you take your braces off your boots and you experience any pain, you are not yet healed.

From what I have read, you might believe yourself, but you come across as untruthful.

Voyage86i did get a fracture, however the orthopedic surgeon told me it was from hyperflexion based on the MRI. I’ve had shin issues since freshman year of highschool and have had the same issues while skiing since ever. It is true that skiing is more impact than i experience over the summer but even mid or late season after months of skiing, even when i am experiencing no current pain, i have been susceptible to these types of injuries, thats why i dont think its fully a conditioning thing, its just how my shins are for the most part. I have started muay thai to try and condition my shins specifically and will keep doing that through the off season so we will see if i get any results from that.

What are you hoping to gain from this thread? You seem to be shutting down all the good advice and thinking that you know best. What makes you think that? And why did you make it in the first place if you already have all the answers. Stop wasting everyone’s time.

Voyage86what do you have to say about expert skiers who compete at super high levels and have the exact same issue as me? My literal bone is weak, not my muscles. muscles have no persuasion over the flex of your shin bone forward or back. Some people have shin bones that don’t get affected and some like me do, that’s just how it is

YOU NEED SUM MILK, SOOOON!!!

Are you still skiing with the thing you created?

KungKalmarAre you still skiing with the thing you created?

i’ve modified it so it’s about 3 inches shorter and does not go above the top of the boots liner but ya i am. Still no signs of calf bang. I’ve got my 360s dialed now for the first time in a while and i’m back on rails, I’m also skiing 4 times a week which would have been impossible with the pain i got before.