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jmabesMy shins feel like they’re going to explode everyday, I still proceed to go ski and land back seat everyday
Voyage86I’m a pretty good skier technique wise but i’m really working on progressing my free ride skiing, sending big drops, throwing my 180s and 360s outside of the park and working on 540s and learning rails this season. I’ve always had bad shins, i would get horrible shin splints in highschool playing football. I’m out in colorado this season, now living here, moving from chicago. Back home the mountains were so small that i got minor shin bang but nothing crazy because i literally couldn’t fall hard enough. Here tho, first day in the trees, i find a cliff at coper, send it, lace it, ski out into a mogul feild and blow up on a mugul, i land hard back seat on my left leg and then proceed to tamahawk, but bam just like that i can’t ski for two weeks and even just touching my left tibia hurts like crazy. It’s not broken, it’s feeling better each day, but this isn’t sustainable. Every time i land back seat where my shin flexes over the back of the boot i get shin bang, the worse the landing the worse is it. How am i supposed to progress like this? Even just a small back seat landing from a poor 360 takes me out for the next two days. If you’re a good skier who gets shin bang like this please tell me how you do it, if it’s not possible to get good with shin bang like this tell me that to. But watching edits and seeing people land back seat in ways that would take me out for weeks just makes me think it might not even be possible to get to where i want to be.
Voyage86I’m a pretty good skier technique wise but i’m really working on progressing my free ride skiing, sending big drops, throwing my 180s and 360s outside of the park and working on 540s and learning rails this season. I’ve always had bad shins, i would get horrible shin splints in highschool playing football. I’m out in colorado this season, now living here, moving from chicago. Back home the mountains were so small that i got minor shin bang but nothing crazy because i literally couldn’t fall hard enough. Here tho, first day in the trees, i find a cliff at coper, send it, lace it, ski out into a mogul feild and blow up on a mugul, i land hard back seat on my left leg and then proceed to tamahawk, but bam just like that i can’t ski for two weeks and even just touching my left tibia hurts like crazy. It’s not broken, it’s feeling better each day, but this isn’t sustainable. Every time i land back seat where my shin flexes over the back of the boot i get shin bang, the worse the landing the worse is it. How am i supposed to progress like this? Even just a small back seat landing from a poor 360 takes me out for the next two days. If you’re a good skier who gets shin bang like this please tell me how you do it, if it’s not possible to get good with shin bang like this tell me that to. But watching edits and seeing people land back seat in ways that would take me out for weeks just makes me think it might not even be possible to get to where i want to be.
freestyler540Sick skier dont get shin bang.
I used to get shinbang in my teens when I was training in a mogul team. Saturday I would go full out and sunday I could barely lean forward in my ski boots. It got so bad that my shin were bumpy!
As I got older, I was told it was causes by the aplastic bending of the shin bone, where the pivot point is the back cuff. As the bone bends, it creates small needle like micro fractures. I spent a lot of time working on my centering techniques and only get shinbang if I accidently land super backseat. Also, dont do tailpresse. Nosepresses are fine
snormanI have found shin bang caused by 2 things most of the time (at least a combination of the 2):
1. Your boot does not fit properly around the calf. There will be free space around the calf when you are in the boot. Not much you can do about this except maybe getting a wrap liner or just a good fitting boot. Basically calf moves around and slams into the front of the boot all day, which causes shin bang. Could also be your boot is too stiff for you, and you aren't flexing the boot like you should. Don't get hung up on the flex number of your boot, it's bs, focus instead on actually being able to flex it properly.
2. This is made worse by improper fitting boots but technique. if you are spending too much time skiing backseat, or just not far enough forward, every time you get knocked off balance you will go back then slam back into the front of your boot. Skis that are too stiff for you can also make this worse, since they are less forgiving, but that's a bit of a double edged sword as a ski too soft will not help you at all when trying to ski aggressively.
It could also be a thing of your shin splints never fully recovering, so maybe go see a doctor especially if it is lasting over 2+ weeks without skiing.
For myself, it was a combination of fixing both of these, now I do not have shin bang unless I ski like a dumbass for 5+ days in a row.
Sorry if this is a bit of a non-answer but I find these to help the best.
SmokedGoudaI guess having thunder thighs is a blessing because I love crushing my calves with my boots and have never once had shinbang. I dont even know what shinbang is thats how it is with me…. Maybe find a way to bulk up your legs in any way you can if possible. Any type of banging is from improper movement over and over again as opposed to fluid movement or one with the boot. My brother who has smaller legs suffers from shinbang all the time while I do not and we both at different times have skied with the atomic hawx prime boot shape. Mine were the xtd’s and apart from the crappy plastic tensions breaking within the first couple days, have been great boots. My problem now is not shinbang but boils or other bone lumps that form throughout the season in weird spots causing sharp pain in those areas. Im too fearful a punch or mold will be too much when already a season ago, I went from 27.5 to 26.5.
Voyage86Intresting thought, i wouldn’t say i have small calves or legs but they aren’t huge, a year ago i could squat 325 so id say im not weak either. I think some people just don’t get it for whatever reason. Also id say most shin bang isnt from literal banging of the leg onto the boot, mine is from my shin bone flexing over the back of the boot when i land back seat.
JAHBRADORIt’s already been said above but the only thing that fixed my shin bang when i was younger was getting full tilts (yes this used to be a meme on here but it is true)
I guess it would be a K2 now, but the soft/progressive flex of the 3 piece design combined with an intuition liner solved all my skin bang problems immediately. The intuition liners are high volume so they fill up the space that my little bitch calves could not.
I know new boots will be expensive but there is no point wasting time in boots that are painful, it will just make you hate skiing.
PartyBullshiitDo you run booster straps? They’ve been known to help with shinbang by reducing the volume you have left in a boot that may be slightly too big around your calf. They may not solve your problem 100% but would absolutely lower your issues. It’s a cheap start.
Voyage86I’ve looked into it but i don’t think it would help, i get shin bang when my shin flexes over the back of the boot and i think that would happen regardless of anything on the boot. But the boots i have, the K2 mindbender boa, have a strap on them that is super similar to a booster strap
PartyBullshiitWhat flex mb?
Voyage86120, i’m super happy with the boot
Voyage86I’m a pretty good skier technique wise but i’m really working on progressing my free ride skiing, sending big drops, throwing my 180s and 360s outside of the park and working on 540s and learning rails this season. I’ve always had bad shins, i would get horrible shin splints in highschool playing football. I’m out in colorado this season, now living here, moving from chicago. Back home the mountains were so small that i got minor shin bang but nothing crazy because i literally couldn’t fall hard enough. Here tho, first day in the trees, i find a cliff at coper, send it, lace it, ski out into a mogul feild and blow up on a mugul, i land hard back seat on my left leg and then proceed to tamahawk, but bam just like that i can’t ski for two weeks and even just touching my left tibia hurts like crazy. It’s not broken, it’s feeling better each day, but this isn’t sustainable. Every time i land back seat where my shin flexes over the back of the boot i get shin bang, the worse the landing the worse is it. How am i supposed to progress like this? Even just a small back seat landing from a poor 360 takes me out for the next two days. If you’re a good skier who gets shin bang like this please tell me how you do it, if it’s not possible to get good with shin bang like this tell me that to. But watching edits and seeing people land back seat in ways that would take me out for weeks just makes me think it might not even be possible to get to where i want to be.
JAHBRADORIt’s already been said above but the only thing that fixed my shin bang when i was younger was getting full tilts (yes this used to be a meme on here but it is true)
I guess it would be a K2 now, but the soft/progressive flex of the 3 piece design combined with an intuition liner solved all my skin bang problems immediately. The intuition liners are high volume so they fill up the space that my little bitch calves could not.
I know new boots will be expensive but there is no point wasting time in boots that are painful, it will just make you hate skiing.
Farmville420Alternative tip that I said in a different shinbang thread a while ago but doing round kicks on a punching bag during the offseason is genuinely super helpful.
Long story short, the repeated contact will create microfractures in your tibia that will heal stronger. This is why MMA fighters can snap your tibia like a twig simply by throwing a leg check.
Here's a basic tutorial. Not too late to get some reps in, I started doing a little muay thai three years ago and haven't had shinbang since.
https://youtu.be/EJJaNGjPDIU?si=88yPjVOENUyN5iYM
PartyBullshiitYou’re dealing with calf bang. Which again is what booster straps are intended to help with. your factory strap may just not be able to create enough pressure to close the gap you have behind your calf. If you have the strap literally as tight as it can go and you still have a gap behind then you’re in the wrong boot for your leg shape so you need something to reduce the volume more
I run the recon boa 130 which is basically the exact same boot as the MB 130 shape wise. My homie runs a Salomon Supra boa 130 but swapped out the oem strap with a booster. His booster strap can create more tension than my k2 power strap. Now I don’t have issues with gaps behind my calf so I don’t need to crank it down super tight personally. But there was no doubt I was able to get his booster strap tighter than my factory k2 strap.
“Designed to increase performance in race boots, the straps were quickly found to reduce shin and calf bang for all types of skiers and, in particular, for park skiers. The elastic properties of the strap help keep the boot cuff and/or tongue (depending on boot style), in constant contact with the lower leg. On landings, that reduces the level of impact generated by the boot and leg moving at different rates.
https://www.newschoolers.com/ski-gear/2025/brand/396/Booster-Straps
Voyage86I was thinking about this too. Wont be skiing for the next three weeks because of winter brake so i think i might give this a go for a week or two and then let it heal.
Voyage86i’m in some K2 mindbender boa rn and they are the best fitting boots i have ever been in. I think they are essentially perfect. I really don’t think what i’m experiencing has anything to do with the boot because the shin bang occurs when i land back seat and my shin flexes over the back of the boot which would happen no matter the boot or fit.
Farmville420Its worth a shot, you can also read about wolff's law and start running and weightlifting which might help but those workouts are not as concentrated as a simple round kick
JAHBRADORYes but if the flex is too stiff then you will still have shin bang issues imo. When I say K2 I mean full tilts:
I had some mindbenders last season, the fit was good but the flex was noot great imo. They ski very ‘upright’ which I found was always throwing me into the backseat. Even with forward lean adjustments they did not feel great, so I could see them causing shin bang issues.
go to a boot fitter and see what they say instead of asking NS. Seems like everyone has given good advice already.
**This post was edited on Dec 15th 2024 at 2:39:14pm
PartyBullshiitDo you already have the spoilers installed?
Voyage86i don’t, the fit around my calf is really good and when getting the boots fit the fitter said i didn’t need them which i agree with. I think the spoilers might make it worse in some ways
PartyBullshiitWell clearly the fit around your calf isn’t good. Which is why you’re having calf bang. If you were locked in you wouldn’t be having the issues you’re having. You are in a mv boot. Sounds like a combination of poor fit around the calf as well as lower strength in your legs. Not a knock.
snormanYou're saying its all about the shin flexing over the back of the boot, so it might be your shin splints aren't fully recovered, your boot is not the right boot, or you are skiing backseat more than you think. Getting stronger won't really help with the calf size much, but it will make you stronger and landings and less likely to get bucked backseat.
If any of those get fixed, you probably won't have as much of a problem.
Voyage86I know i’m not skiing back seat because i’ve gotten really good at not for this exact reason that it hurts. It’s really just accidental back seat landings that hurt me. I also really don’t think bigger calf’s and stronger legs will help because i have strong legs and decent sized calf’s. And i don’t think any different boot will fix my problem because the anatomy of any boot is that where support ends ends my shin is able to flex over the back of the boot because there is no support
snormanWell you made this thread looking for advice, you have gotten a lot of good advice, and proceed to shut everyone's advice down so I'm just a bit confused here man. Everything you are describing is textbook shin bang which is caused by the calf being too big, or you ski backseat. So go see a bootfitter get a second opinion, fix your shin splints and wait until your shin doesn't hurt anymore and see if it happens again because you might just be injured, or just stop landing and skiing backseat.
snormanWell you made this thread looking for advice, you have gotten a lot of good advice, and proceed to shut everyone's advice down so I'm just a bit confused here man. Everything you are describing is textbook shin bang which is caused by the calf being too big, or you ski backseat. So go see a bootfitter get a second opinion, fix your shin splints and wait until your shin doesn't hurt anymore and see if it happens again because you might just be injured, or just stop landing and skiing backseat.
Voyage86Ok that’s intresting to hear. I will start by cranking the fuxk out of the strap on my boot and if that doesn’t do it than i think i will go for the booster strap.
Voyage86i wouldn’t say i have calf bang, my tibia hurts on the outside front of my leg. Not my calf
Voyage86i lift all the time
PartyBullshiityou’re asking for opinions but disregarding all the advice you’ve been given. I’ll say again. Try the tru strap. I’d be very confident that it nearly reduces all your issues. If it doesn’t. I’ll buy the straps off you. I want to replace my Rossi all tracks with true straps
PartyBullshiitYou're literally describing calf bang. That doesn’t mean your calf is going to hurt. It means you’re putting more pressure on the calf and cuff of your boot which is adding stress on your shin bone. You’re getting hung up on the terms and not the effects. As everyone has pointed out to you, your boot has too much volume in the leg area. You are in a MV boot and clearly your legs are LV. Because of that you’re being pressed rearward on landings (calfbang) which is hurting your shin bone. The pain in shins doesn’t mean your slamming your front side of your leg into the tongue.
if you don’t want to get into another better fitting boot or switching to a HV liner like a zipfit HV then the next best bet is going to be a better booster/power strap.
you’re asking for opinions but disregarding all the advice you’ve been given. I’ll say again. Try the tru strap. I’d be very confident that it nearly reduces all your issues. If it doesn’t. I’ll buy the straps off you. I want to replace my Rossi all tracks with true straps
BallClapperGot his panties in a twist when I said skiing backseat is part of his issue. Kids a punk.
Voyage86dog, i understand how and when my shin bang occurs, if i skied back seat my shins would hurt all the time because being back seat does cause my problem. Luckily for me though i don’t ski back seat so my shins only hurt when i land back seat hard. You’re kind of an idiot
Voyage86dog, i understand how and when my shin bang occurs, if i skied back seat my shins would hurt all the time because being back seat does cause my problem. Luckily for me though i don’t ski back seat so my shins only hurt when i land back seat hard. You’re kind of an idiot
Voyage86dog, i understand how and when my shin bang occurs, if i skied back seat my shins would hurt all the time because being back seat does cause my problem. Luckily for me though i don’t ski back seat so my shins only hurt when i land back seat hard. You’re kind of an idiot