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DOUBLE BOA BOOT WTF

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iDontHitRails
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Not so sure about this. The inability to buckle the top two buckles differently is rather concerning. I feel like boot brands are jumping into the boa thing a little too head-first. I’ve tried on normal boa boots and I will admit they do a substantially better job of actually wrapping the shell around your foot than traditional buckles but this seems absurd
Nov 22 2024 2:08AM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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One thing I'm not impressed by so far with BOA is how hard it is to undo the BOA.

For example: I unclip when I ride the chairlift, it's a quick boom boom to unclip reclip with buckles for each boot

With BOA it's harder than it looks to pop it and redial it in because you have to screw it in for a second.
Nov 22 2024 3:29AM
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N41v131355
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BigPurpleSkiSuitOne thing I'm not impressed by so far with BOA is how hard it is to undo the BOA.

For example: I unclip when I ride the chairlift, it's a quick boom boom to unclip reclip with buckles for each boot

With BOA it's harder than it looks to pop it and redial it in because you have to screw it in for a second.

+1, not impressed with boa so far. Can't undo BOA with mittens on. Many rotations needed to tighten it up, it really takes at least 10-15 seconds. Buckles are easier and faster for sure
Nov 22 2024 3:34AM
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tomPietrowski
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Wait until you ski them :)

where lower boa mainly adds comfort the boa cuff ups the performance so much over buckles. We were just away testing new boots and had some buckle bench marks and they just can’t come close to what boa cuff offers.

If you want a boot which performs you should give it a try it’s pretty special!
Nov 22 2024 3:53AM
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tomPietrowski
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BigPurpleSkiSuitOne thing I'm not impressed by so far with BOA is how hard it is to undo the BOA.

For example: I unclip when I ride the chairlift, it's a quick boom boom to unclip reclip with buckles for each boot

With BOA it's harder than it looks to pop it and redial it in because you have to screw it in for a second.

Don’t pop it just turn it back to undo it. I found if I just lean back slightly it pushes the foot into the instep and loosens the cable faster
Nov 22 2024 3:54AM
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hi_vis360
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This is old news they are testing tripple boa boots now, bet there will be quad and quint boa in the near future! 😃
Nov 22 2024 7:02AM
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hi_vis360
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Is there any way we can start adding boas onto bindings and skis too?
Nov 22 2024 7:04AM
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muffMan.
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hi_vis360Is there any way we can start adding boas onto bindings and skis too?


Dude stop you’re giving shredshox even worse ideas
Nov 22 2024 8:24AM
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hi_vis360
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muffMan.Dude stop you’re giving shredshox even worse ideas


What if we put boas onto shredshox??🤤
Nov 22 2024 8:27AM
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partyandBS
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hear me out, pants wit boa belts
Nov 22 2024 9:40AM
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kalle.
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partyandBShear me out, pants wit boa belts

there already is
Nov 22 2024 10:10AM
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KilaTsunami
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kalle.there already is


Boa gloves too… can’t wait to see where the next one turns up
Nov 22 2024 10:43AM
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Session
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I find it really weird how invested people are in cranking down a buckle that puts a large amount of pressure in a single spot. But when offered a solution to have a more uniform snug wrap with less pressure points they get indignant.
Nov 22 2024 11:17AM
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AndreyaZvonar
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Boots aren’t what make you ski well…pretty sure LJ won R2R one year on rental boots
Nov 22 2024 11:22AM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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AndreyaZvonarBoots aren’t what make you ski well…pretty sure LJ won R2R one year on rental boots


I mean, they kind of are, if boots don't fit at all, you can't have much precision manuevering skis. I'd rather have shit skis and good boots than the opposite any day of the week.
Nov 22 2024 11:25AM
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Session
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AndreyaZvonarBoots aren’t what make you ski well…pretty sure LJ won R2R one year on rental boots


You are comparing freaks of nature to regular people.
Nov 22 2024 11:40AM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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Andreya is also filthy on skis though
SessionYou are comparing freaks of nature to regular people.
Nov 22 2024 11:57AM
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lil.Boye
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Boa is the new coronavirus, but no one is trying to get rid of it.
Nov 22 2024 12:00PM
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onenerdykid
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AndreyaZvonarBoots aren’t what make you ski well…pretty sure LJ won R2R one year on rental boots

As someone who fit LJ's boots for years, I can tell you that he would very much prefer to ski in boots that fit him properly.

If he ever skied a comp in a rental boot, it would be due to him breaking his preferred boot, which he would do far more often than any other skier I worked with.
Nov 22 2024 12:01PM
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Non_State_Actor
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SessionI find it really weird how invested people are in cranking down a buckle that puts a large amount of pressure in a single spot. But when offered a solution to have a more uniform snug wrap with less pressure points they get indignant.

People just don't like change, it's not weird really.
Dudes probably said the same shit about fiberglass skis when they came out.
Nov 22 2024 12:15PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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tomPietrowskiDon’t pop it just turn it back to undo it. I found if I just lean back slightly it pushes the foot into the instep and loosens the cable faster


appreciate the advice there!
Nov 22 2024 12:16PM
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PartyBullshiit
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Definitely excited to try some. I can absolutely see why they’ll be better than buckles. People can hate on boa but it really is a better performing product. Not sure about the mitten complaints. I only use mitts and have absolutely no issues working the dial. I will say the second knob does visually look really odd.
Nov 22 2024 12:53PM
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harlautsipad
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Already got chat gpt working on a design called SackLock hear me out.



Integrating a BOA system with a “sac hammock” in underwear could create a unique adjustable pouch design. Here’s how it might work:







Concept







The BOA dial system, typically used for tightening and adjusting fit in shoes or gear, could be adapted to control the tension or positioning of the “sac hammock” pouch for optimal support and comfort.







Design Features







1.Adjustable Tension Dial



•A small, discreet BOA dial could be placed on the waistband or hip area.



•The dial would connect to tension cables that subtly adjust the lift, support, or snugness of the sac hammock.



2.Custom Fit for Activity



•Loose Fit: For lounging or casual wear, the hammock could rest in a more relaxed position.



•Snug Fit: For physical activities like running or hiking, the BOA system could tighten the hammock, reducing movement and preventing discomfort.



3.Hidden Mechanism



•The cables could be embedded in fabric channels, ensuring a seamless and non-bulky look.



•The dial would be low-profile and lockable to prevent accidental adjustments.



4.Enhanced Comfort Materials



•Use of moisture-wicking, stretchable fabric to ensure comfort while the BOA system provides customization.
Nov 22 2024 12:54PM
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PartyBullshiit
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tomPietrowskiWait until you ski them :)

where lower boa mainly adds comfort the boa cuff ups the performance so much over buckles. We were just away testing new boots and had some buckle bench marks and they just can’t come close to what boa cuff offers.

If you want a boot which performs you should give it a try it’s pretty special!


Is the new cortex boot boa?
Nov 22 2024 1:03PM
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partyandBS
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business ideas for boa errthing:

boa helmet strap (they already have it on the back lol)

boa child car seat

boaties (like clip on bowties but with boa system)

boa autoasphyxiation device (kinky version of the above)

boa pet collars (at this point i think i just want a boa on ever neck)

boa snowboard bindings

boa blankets (like a snuggy that hugs you back)

boa bin (basically a trunk to store all you other boa devices that latches via boa system)

boa bras

boa food storage containers

boa window locks (could tighten them together and save on your energy bill)

boa system that threads through the shell of your ski boot to lock your heel in like never before



thats all i got for now. see you guys on shark tank
Nov 22 2024 1:13PM
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maaattt
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PartyBullshiitIs the new cortex boot boa?


Yeszir
Nov 22 2024 1:13PM
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partyandBS
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dalbello? more like dalboa
Nov 22 2024 1:41PM
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