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fdWEARer
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Hello all gear heads. I need your expertise. I am looking for a full rockerd park ski, or close to full rocker. My fav ever skis were the old surface royales, which were pretty much full rocker, as the camber flattened out after literally a week. I know That the skis listed will not be anywhere near as soft, I have tried lots of the "softest skis" - ie: blends, v's, icey/fatypus/jet, 1000s, nothing gets close


but I think the full rocker is what made it so effortless to ski. And all my skis now have wayy too much camber.
even though they are soft, and it flattens out when riding, I do not get the same effortless spin/pivot on a dime effect.

any insight is appreciated
Nov 19 2024 5:42PM
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Non_State_Actor
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Check the rocker profile on the Nomad, see if you can track down last years or the year before as I think it was updated but the old ones were pretty much rocker-flat-rocker.
Nov 19 2024 6:52PM
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fdWEARer
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Non_State_ActorCheck the rocker profile on the Nomad, see if you can track down last years or the year before as I think it was updated but the old ones were pretty much rocker-flat-rocker.


funny enough, I just literally picked up a pair and viewed the camber. My litttle bro has a pair from 2 years ago??
idk exact, but its the older style one. It is pretty close to full rocker, but it definitely has some camber to it.
Nov 19 2024 7:11PM
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profa_212
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Devastators are full rocker and super fun in the park. Rip around the mountain too. Best ski of all time IMO and there is a couple of us on here that hold that opinion
Nov 19 2024 8:28PM
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lil.Boye
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Uhmmm i would say vishnu wet or wide, but you mean they have too much camber? My wets are pretty much full rocker at this point
Nov 19 2024 8:55PM
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fdWEARer
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lil.BoyeUhmmm i would say vishnu wet or wide, but you mean they have too much camber? My wets are pretty much full rocker at this point


I dont really know what the rocker profile on the wets or wides are. I was looking to buy some, but there are no pictures of the skis side profile picture anywhere

And I was just saying that the wets are a little stiffer than what I would like, but the full rocker (if they are ) might outweigh that
Nov 19 2024 9:16PM
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A15
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fdWEARerI dont really know what the rocker profile on the wets or wides are. I was looking to buy some, but there are no pictures of the skis side profile picture anywhere

And I was just saying that the wets are a little stiffer than what I would like, but the full rocker (if they are ) might outweigh that


wets and wides have practically no/little camber. Flex wise I dont think you can find a modern ski thats going to be softer.
Nov 19 2024 9:32PM
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A15
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two second search on newschooler and I found this
Nov 19 2024 9:33PM
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Eli.braun98
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profa_212Devastators are full rocker and super fun in the park. Rip around the mountain too. Best ski of all time IMO and there is a couple of us on here that hold that opinion


4frnt devs are the best
Nov 19 2024 10:04PM
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lil.Boye
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fdWEARerI dont really know what the rocker profile on the wets or wides are. I was looking to buy some, but there are no pictures of the skis side profile picture anywhere

And I was just saying that the wets are a little stiffer than what I would like, but the full rocker (if they are ) might outweigh that


They are probably the softest skis out of the box.
Nov 20 2024 8:48AM
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skietedavidson
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Are you talking about the white Royales with the womans face on them?

If so, sorry, I've tried them all nothing really compares. J Skis Vacation is the closest thing, but overall they are still a burlier, wider, heavier ski. People who think wets are the softest must been used to Volkl. My old royales are twice as soft as my wets
Nov 20 2024 12:35PM
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Non_State_Actor
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skietedavidsonAre you talking about the white Royales with the womans face on them?

People who think wets are the softest must been used to Volkl. My old royales are twice as soft as my wets

The super floppy phase was just a blip on the ski design timeline, companies tried it, found the limit where super soft skis became stupid then dialed it back towards the middle. It happens in the evolution of every field of design.
Nov 20 2024 2:12PM
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fdWEARer
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skietedavidsonAre you talking about the white Royales with the womans face on them?

If so, sorry, I've tried them all nothing really compares. J Skis Vacation is the closest thing, but overall they are still a burlier, wider, heavier ski. People who think wets are the softest must been used to Volkl. My old royales are twice as soft as my wets


yesss
I would die to have a pair of those skis in ,my size. my pair is 161, And I ride 184 now, so kinda unrideable especially for how soft they are.

I have heard similar about the j skis vacation
I might try a pair
Nov 20 2024 5:25PM
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skietedavidson
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Non_State_ActorThe super floppy phase was just a blip on the ski design timeline, companies tried it, found the limit where super soft skis became stupid then dialed it back towards the middle. It happens in the evolution of every field of design.


Late 2000s early teens was prime K2 Fujative, Line sir Francis bacon, Line Elizabeth, other similar skis that people say were pure noodles according to oldddd threads
These royales were 2020 or 2021 I believe

**This post was edited on Nov 20th 2024 at 8:00:17pm
Nov 20 2024 7:59PM
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ski_salmon69
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I am actively trying to get surface to bring back their 3 stage rocker skis, just give me some time and they’ll be back
Nov 20 2024 8:21PM
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stinky_cheese
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profa_212Devastators are full rocker and super fun in the park. Rip around the mountain too. Best ski of all time IMO and there is a couple of us on here that hold that opinion


long live the devastator... still trying to figure out why i'm out here chasing other skis when the devastator has always been the most fun
Nov 20 2024 10:43PM
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