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Cast 2.0 for bakcountry and rope tows

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smokes
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Cast released their new lineup, looks like they remedied some of the old issues with toe pop and things. Looks sick.

I've been touring with ATK Freeraiders on some head kore, but after a scary prerelease in a couloir in cooke city last season and less enjoyable downhill with them than in my Nightsticks, I'm considering ditching my old touring setup and getting the freetour 2.0 upgrade on my Nightsticks. I have my own dedicated park/street skis, but after originally getting the nightsticks for park, I really wanna tour with them too. Definetly the most fun skis I've ever skied, and maybe with the cast on them I won't get cooked next time I ski backcountry, other than on the uphill. Any one have thoughts on skiing park 5-10 times a season with the cast system? Any opinions or public shaming?


I've gone from all-mountain dork --> big mountain wannabe --> skimo wannabe --> wait park skiing is super rad --> how bout I just do manpowered backcountry, street, and park rope tows; maybe that will influence the advice! Thanks homies
Oct 8 2024 4:59PM
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BallClapper
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Oct 8 2024 5:24PM
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mattytru
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I've skied a moderate amount of park on my 1.0 CAST setup and they have held up well. No discernible difference in terms of toe wiggle. My biggest worry was knocking the toe posts around, but it hasn't seemed to happen at all. I'd say the biggest thing is that it feels the tiniest bit strange sliding rails and in particular doing technical rail tricks with the CASTs, simply due to the minute amount of play in the toes as compared to an actual Pivot toe. If your question is if they will hold up, yes, they definitely will. The biggest thing with any CAST setup is really the quality of the mount/install. If you got a weak mount I could see those posts coming loose with repeated rail bashing. But then again they would probably come loose anyways when charging in backcountry terrain. My set is 3 seasons old with 150+ tours on them and they are holding up great.
Oct 8 2024 5:40PM
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hamsauce
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My skis break before my CAST system breaks. No complaints here. I know @brownetown has CAST on some park sticks, how are those beauties holding up?

Seriously just go on CASTs website and find a certified dealer who mounts more CASTs than any other shop in the area since they carry it.
mattytruI've skied a moderate amount of park on my 1.0 CAST setup and they have held up well. No discernible difference in terms of toe wiggle. My biggest worry was knocking the toe posts around, but it hasn't seemed to happen at all. I'd say the biggest thing is that it feels the tiniest bit strange sliding rails and in particular doing technical rail tricks with the CASTs, simply due to the minute amount of play in the toes as compared to an actual Pivot toe. If your question is if they will hold up, yes, they definitely will. The biggest thing with any CAST setup is really the quality of the mount/install. If you got a weak mount I could see those posts coming loose with repeated rail bashing. But then again they would probably come loose anyways when charging in backcountry terrain. My set is 3 seasons old with 150+ tours on them and they are holding up great.
Oct 8 2024 6:10PM
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PartyBullshiit
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Once you put the pivot toe back on your skiing pivots. So they’re great. They fixed the post issues with the 2.0. It’s more durable forsure. Supposed to be less toe play as well
Oct 8 2024 9:57PM
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fucintight
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second what everyone else has said, i had cast on my wides for the last 2yrs riding them in the park and doing 20-25 days of touring. no problems other than icing when swapping lol, shits are bombproof
Oct 9 2024 10:26PM
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mattytru
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PartyBullshiitOnce you put the pivot toe back on your skiing pivots. So they’re great. They fixed the post issues with the 2.0. It’s more durable forsure. Supposed to be less toe play as well


Yeah the 2.0 attachment system looks to really have improved on an already strong design. I feel like the posts were definitely the weakest point of the 1.0 design, yet I've only heard of maybe one instance of them getting knocked around and falling out. Will def upgrade to the 2.0 in the next few years.
Oct 9 2024 10:38PM
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PartyBullshiit
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mattytruYeah the 2.0 attachment system looks to really have improved on an already strong design. I feel like the posts were definitely the weakest point of the 1.0 design, yet I've only heard of maybe one instance of them getting knocked around and falling out. Will def upgrade to the 2.0 in the next few years.

The bigger problem wasn’t getting knocked off but if you tweaked them even a tiny bit it would throw off everything. Something toes would no longer mount up period or you’d have horrible wobble in the toe if a post got tweaked at all.
Oct 9 2024 11:47PM
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edollo_dredlocks
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PartyBullshiitThe bigger problem wasn’t getting knocked off but if you tweaked them even a tiny bit it would throw off everything. Something toes would no longer mount up period or you’d have horrible wobble in the toe if a post got tweaked at all.


Can confirm this happened to me on the freetour 1.0s; fucking sucks.
Oct 10 2024 2:01PM
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mattytru
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PartyBullshiitThe bigger problem wasn’t getting knocked off but if you tweaked them even a tiny bit it would throw off everything. Something toes would no longer mount up period or you’d have horrible wobble in the toe if a post got tweaked at all.


Yeah learning how to mount them properly was slightly unnerving for that reason lol
Oct 10 2024 10:22PM
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michael_bc
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As long as you aren't hitting rails I don't see any issue at all. This is exactly what these hybrid bindings are made for. Life's too short: get the upgrade and enjoy!

On the other hand, if you are hitting rails, you will 100% trash the skis before you trash the bindings.
Oct 11 2024 3:22AM
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Emma_Watson
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I've had toe posts fall out on my CAST 1.0s (from over torquing)

Make sure you confirm with shop techs that they have worked with CAST mounts
Oct 11 2024 5:24AM
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midwestcoast
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Never had a prerelease with my kingpins. Jussayin….

I’ll remember this reply as I’m tomahawking down silver couloir from random karma prerelease
Oct 11 2024 8:38AM
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