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Line Chronic “Durability” Upgrade

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bwork_1
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What’s up, I’m searching for a new ski to grab for the season and came across the 2024 Line chronic 94 for a really good deal ~$250.

I know line doesn’t get the best rep for durability and I had a pair of 2019 Chronics that broke on me in 3 months. That being said 2024 was the year they were supposed to revamp their durability and prioritize it. Been browsing the subs but wanted a more updated response now they’ve been out a season. Can anyone speak on the 2024 model for durability? Very hesitant to buy line again, but wanted to hear anyone’s experiences because of this deal I’ve found.

thanks

**This thread was edited on Sep 27th 2024 at 1:23:16pm
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BallClapper
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They say that every year.
bwork_1was the year they were supposed to revamp their durability and prioritize it.

**This thread was edited on Sep 27th 2024 at 1:23:16pm
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lootlake
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My friend got them cause of the “upgraded quality “ boy was I laughing hard when they delaminated and snapped 2 and a half months in
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jmabes
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I can’t speak on a full season worth of use since I just bought my pair this spring, but so far I’ve been satisfied with the durability. I’ve only skied park on them and haven’t had any abnormal damage
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bwork_1
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vroskiiMy friend got them cause of the “upgraded quality “ boy was I laughing hard when they delaminated and snapped 2 and a half months in


Exactly what I needed to hear
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Teddy_Sweets
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The topsheet on my chronics after one year of moderate use (4 or 5 weekends + February break) it peeled to where my finger is pointing before I repaired it. Unless the durability was somehow worse last year there was no upgrade
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bwork_1
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Teddy_Sweets


The topsheet on my chronics after one year of moderate use (4 or 5 weekends + February break) it peeled to where my finger is pointing before I repaired it. Unless the durability was somehow worse last year there was no upgrade


Sounds very typical, thanks for the feedback
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NSCrip69
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Just get the armada ARV 94. It’s basically the same ski but more durable and from a better company
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skiP.E.I.
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NSCrip69Just get the armada ARV 94. It’s basically the same ski but more durable and from a better company

Recent Armadas have a reputation for blowing up too. If the 94 is anything like the 96 they flex very differently than the Chronic.
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bwork_1
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Appreciate everyone’s guidance, decided to grab the Vishnu Key this year.
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Vzx
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Nothing wrong with keys
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bwork_1
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Am I cooked?!?
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Celery
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bwork_1Appreciate everyone’s guidance, decided to grab the Vishnu Key this year.


Good choice, I loved my keys
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hi_vis360
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vroskiiMy friend got them cause of the “upgraded quality “ boy was I laughing hard when they delaminated and snapped 2 and a half months in


Man I was really hoping this wouldn’t be the case for lines sake, also not surprised
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NSCrip69
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You made a post because you were concerned about durability…..and then bought vishnus…..that are known for not being durable….

cmon bud, you can do better.
bwork_1Appreciate everyone’s guidance, decided to grab the Vishnu Key this year.
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bwork_1
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NSCrip69You made a post because you were concerned about durability…..and then bought vishnus…..that are known for not being durable….

cmon bud, you can do better.


Oh Vishnu’s aren’t durable? What’s durable then man? Only ever heard positive things about their durability.
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Vzx
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bwork_1Oh Vishnu’s aren’t durable? What’s durable then man? Only ever heard positive things about their durability.


Don’t listen to him man, he’s just a troll.
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Twig
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bwork_1Oh Vishnu’s aren’t durable? What’s durable then man? Only ever heard positive things about their durability.

Any brand that sells more than a few hundred pairs of skis will inevitably start having people complain about durability. Generally speaking, the more skis you sell to park skiers, the worse your reputation for durability gets. The reason? Park skiers break skis... and then go online to complain about it.

Assume, for the sake of an example, a 1% break rate and of that 50% online bitching rate. If you sold 500 pairs then 5 would break and only two or three of those people would come online to complain about it. If you sell 5000 pairs of the same ski, you suddenly have 50 broken pairs on your hands and 25 people online calling them out, and you start to build a reputation for skis that break, even though no more of your skis are breaking than the small brand, percentage-wise. Unfortunately, the absolute number of people who break your skis matters here, not the percentage of skis that break.

Disclaimer: Some brands and more often certain skis, have specific issues above and beyond this, Faction and Line have both had bad patches that they've acknowledged. Often there are huge variations within a brand too. A random example, but K2 Poachers had a great reputation for being bombproof, while the K2 Reckoner 102's had the opposite reputation at the exact same time.

To the OP: Vishnu generally has a very good reputation for durability for a reason, don't overthink it, the likelihood is your skis will be absolutely fine.
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bwork_1
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Appreciate it, that makes perfect sense
TwigAny brand that sells more than a few hundred pairs of skis will inevitably start having people complain about durability. Generally speaking, the more skis you sell to park skiers, the worse your reputation for durability gets. The reason? Park skiers break skis... and then go online to complain about it.

Assume, for the sake of an example, a 1% break rate and of that 50% online bitching rate. If you sold 500 pairs then 5 would break and only two or three of those people would come online to complain about it. If you sell 5000 pairs of the same ski, you suddenly have 50 broken pairs on your hands and 25 people online calling them out, and you start to build a reputation for skis that break, even though no more of your skis are breaking than the small brand, percentage-wise. Unfortunately, the absolute number of people who break your skis matters here, not the percentage of skis that break.

Disclaimer: Some brands and more often certain skis, have specific issues above and beyond this, Faction and Line have both had bad patches that they've acknowledged. Often there are huge variations within a brand too. A random example, but K2 Poachers had a great reputation for being bombproof, while the K2 Reckoner 102's had the opposite reputation at the exact same time.

To the OP: Vishnu generally has a very good reputation for durability for a reason, don't overthink it, the likelihood is your skis will be absolutely fine.
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SteezyYeeter
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I have a pair of 23 chronics that have worked great. tbf they weren't my main ski and I def wasn't destroying them on rails, but I still like em. for 250 bucks is p chill.
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JJVig1234
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TwigAny brand that sells more than a few hundred pairs of skis will inevitably start having people complain about durability. Generally speaking, the more skis you sell to park skiers, the worse your reputation for durability gets. The reason? Park skiers break skis... and then go online to complain about it.

Assume, for the sake of an example, a 1% break rate and of that 50% online bitching rate. If you sold 500 pairs then 5 would break and only two or three of those people would come online to complain about it. If you sell 5000 pairs of the same ski, you suddenly have 50 broken pairs on your hands and 25 people online calling them out, and you start to build a reputation for skis that break, even though no more of your skis are breaking than the small brand, percentage-wise. Unfortunately, the absolute number of people who break your skis matters here, not the percentage of skis that break.

Disclaimer: Some brands and more often certain skis, have specific issues above and beyond this, Faction and Line have both had bad patches that they've acknowledged. Often there are huge variations within a brand too. A random example, but K2 Poachers had a great reputation for being bombproof, while the K2 Reckoner 102's had the opposite reputation at the exact same time.

To the OP: Vishnu generally has a very good reputation for durability for a reason, don't overthink it, the likelihood is your skis will be absolutely fine.


Park skiers also wonder why they have edge cracks and durability issues and then they ride skis fresh out of the package don’t de-tune them, land on rails outrageously hard for no reason and just abuse the hell out of there skies and then they go and bitch to the company’s saying there skis aren’t durable when there abusing the skis and don’t care about them at all. If I’m spending 1k on new skis I’m gonna take care of them.
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hb_laz
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i have the 2024 blends and they seem to be holding up the same as previous years. a couple of my buddies have the cronics tho and genuinely they look like they are holding up well. these are guys that ski pretty hard as well
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triplecork1440
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bwork_1Oh Vishnu’s aren’t durable? What’s durable then man? Only ever heard positive things about their durability.


been through 2 pairs this season edges get destroyed fast and the metal on the tip and tail come off and edges start peeling off
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