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Granby_killdozerYou’re the one trying to troll. I’m trying to have a discussion that you’ve interrupted. You’re like a toddler crying because the adults won’t pay attention to them.
eheathThe irony is palpable, whatever makes you feel better big guy.
Granby_killdozerdoesn’t answer my question. If there wasn’t a sovereign nation here when Europeans arrived then they didn’t “invade” anything.
VTshredder69snorting coke with fentanyl in it because of open borders shouldn't be a fact of life either but you don't hear me whining about it.
TOAST.Good on you for funding the cartels that you want so desperately to keep out.
partyandBSyou guys are all kooks.
-no one in office wants to take your guns
-its bipartisan that the border needs to be tightened up
-fentanyl is from china brought in primarily by boat and typically mixed into drugs at a local level
-no one should be assassinated
-a political opinion has never been changed on the internet, you’re just regenerating what you heard from youre favorite media outlet and you look stupid doing it
-50 cent has been shot more than trump
snowfinderAs J.D Vance said gun violence in the USA is a 'fact of life'.
Before you all get mad for me telling you what he said here is proof he said it.
https://apnews.com/article/jd-vance-georgia-shooting-7d7727a1aff8491f66914a4d8a14cd8c
**This post was edited on Sep 17th 2024 at 10:09:24am
-eREKTion-I’m not a Trump/Vance supporter but if you think that gun violence and political violence are equivalent, respectfully, fuck yourself.
snowfinderWhat weapons are used for both? I know it's a hard one to answer.
-eREKTion-I know it’s hard to grasp when you believe in bankrupt moral equivalencies but gun violence, no matter how horrible and egregious is not equivalent to political violence. Political violence destabilizes any faith people have left in the institutions of government. For the same reason that we need to prosecute every January 6th insurrectionist, we need to stand united against political assassinations. Our government isn’t great but it’s a lot better than no government.
snowfinderDeath for being a kid at school shouldn't be a fact of life, but yes better gun laws are needed.
SteezyYeetercriminals be like "oh guns are illegal? wouldn't want to break the law!"
logic :D
-eREKTion-I know it’s hard to grasp when you believe in bankrupt moral equivalencies but gun violence, no matter how horrible and egregious is not equivalent to political violence. Political violence destabilizes any faith people have left in the institutions of government. For the same reason that we need to prosecute every January 6th insurrectionist, we need to stand united against political assassinations. Our government isn’t great but it’s a lot better than no government.
partyandBSlol do you have any idea how astronomically expensive it is to get a gun on the black market in a country with strict gun regulations? right now a homeless guy could pan handle for a couple
weeks and get $400 and go get a hand gun. pretty sure it was australia where it would take several thousands of dollars to get a gun. your average street thug/criminal probably won’t be getting one.
i do agree that tighter gun laws won’t be the end all be all though. we have a society that essentially glorifies violence with true crime shows and media outlets that blast perpetrators pictures all over at a much higher rate than the victims. we let fucks like james holmes, jeffery dalmher, ted bundy, timothy mcveigh, etc. go down in infamy as a villainized superheros in a sense. as long as we continue that pattern i would speculate that we continue to see copy cats and new variations of violence continue.
snowfinderViolence is violence and it's much easier when guns are just a fact of life.
Granby_killdozerViolence was a fact of life before guns. Those native Americans whose land you think we stole used to commit acts of violence on eachother all the time.
partyandBSmaybe not the best example as mass genocide was brought upon there people with the use of guns when they had none. like the sand creek massacre etc. once guns were involved it wasn’t a fair fight at all and the violence from guns forever changed those people. like i couldn’t think of a worse example to bring up lol. are you fuckin inbred or something??
Granby_killdozerLol man you’re not worth the time to educate. But just fyi most of the deaths attributed to “genocide” committed by Europeans were caused by disease. Not firearms.
partyandBSdisease from a different land was very impactfully to the population no doubt. you know what smallpox blankets are right?? lets say that was an accident and those infested blankets were given in good faith and the deaths happened out of shear mismanagement of disease control. what about the 1000+ battles during the american indian wars that were authorized by various government officials?? it was an attack on nearly defenseless humans by force with advanced weapons for the time known as, you fuckin guessed it, guns.
countless battles are literally documented as government orders. who the fuck “educated” you? your sister/cousin?? local church cult???
Granby_killdozerOh no! Not the SmALl pOx BlAnKEtS! You’re an idiot with a brain dead moralistic and revisionist view of history. You came of age in the most peaceful period of human existence. Things used to be brutal. Natives used to scalp white women and children. Don’t think for one second that they didn’t do a bunch of killing themselves.
partyandBSdont you fuckin dare call me a revisionist. i preordered my revision blinks august 3rd, 2016 and still haven’t got them. fuck those guys. i do not affiliate with them.
also i really dont give a fuck about this conversation so im out lol
snowfinderViolence is violence and it's much easier when guns are just a fact of life.
skitheriver2Erm source???
partyandBSyou guys are all kooks.
-no one in office wants to take your guns
PartyBullshiitWhile It’s true they’re not trying to take all
of everyone’s guns. They are trying to take a type of gun. That is an undeniable fact which they have not tried to hide. The completely mis used term of “assault weapons” which are currently not even available to the general public. Which will turn into semi automatic weapons, which is such a wide term it’s never going to happen.
the problem is one side says “they’re going to take your guns” another is saying we are gun supporters while actively trying to take away gun rights.
neither side wants to be transparent and completely uses fear tactics to scare masses because most people are completely ignorant about firearms
SlushSeasonAnd the guns they're going after are totally irrelevant to the vast majority of gun violence. There are a few high profile shootings each year involving rifles, but vastly more murders and suicides using handguns. If they actually wanted to reduce gun deaths, they'd be going after glocks and hi-points, not ARs.
The government wants to get rid of semiautomatic rifles because they're the only effective weapon that civilians have for any potential conflict against the government.
BallClapperErm st00pid?
VTshredder69Oh boy i was semi joking calling the indians savages who sacrificed themselves and this is what we get lol.
snowfinderJust like how Trump jokes about how he didnt loose in 2020... By that you're not joking you're trying to pretend the awful things you said were in good spirits.
VTshredder69Lose? He lost, but look at the current president. You guys really voted in a winner.
I stated facts. You're just a fucking bitch who promotes political violence.
snowfinderSelf projecting definition:
The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one's own unacceptable urges to another. For example, if someone continuously bullies and ridicules a peer about his insecurities, the bully might be projecting his own struggle with self-esteem onto the other person.
VTshredder69Lol. It's the internet dude. You need a life. Go let migrants in and yet "return land to the natives".
snowfinderMore self projecting.
VTshredder69Must have really struck a nerve. Let your anger consume you.
snowfinderZero anger unlike Trump supporters.
VTshredder69Trump supporters don't try to kill their political opponents. Tell me again who are the angry ones?
But according to you political violence is justified. Got it.
VTshredder69Trump supporters don't try to kill their political opponents. Tell me again who are the angry ones?
But according to you political violence is justified. Got it.
snowfinderThe first shooter was a Trump supporter...
snowfinderThe first shooter was a Trump supporter...
snowfinderThe first shooter was a Trump supporter...
1spliff2guinniesAs a non-Amerikan: Why is it that Trump seems to be getting all the bullets flying at him? Do people really hate his policies? Or do they not like him because of his personality?
1spliff2guinniesAs a non-Amerikan: Why is it that Trump seems to be getting all the bullets flying at him? Do people really hate his policies? Or do they not like him because of his personality?
Granby_killdozerNo he wasn’t… he tried to kill him. R U dumb???
VTshredder69Dude CNN said it. Everyone knows supporters want to kill the people they support! It makes perfect sense
VTshredder69GUYS WE NEED TO IMPRISON OR KILL TRUMP IN THE NAME OF ANTI FASCISM!!
