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So what’s everyone expecting? I truly expect a shit show honestly. Turning it into a drinking game. Every time an old guy says dumb shit I’m taking a drink.
VTshredder69Worst VP approval rating in 100 years.
Called Biden a racist routinely when running against him. Then accepted his offer to be the VP.
Joke.
If you were to do any research into either of those claims, you would find them false. Her approval ratings seem pretty average if not 1-2% lower than average, people have been reelected with lower. I will agree that yes, that makes her approval not THE BEST, but it is a far cry from the worst. The only documented time she made mention of racism was against a policy he supported and she did not, but she prefaced the comment by saying she didn't consider him to be racist.
You have to stop buying into that fake news and confirmation bias my dude.
PoikenzIf you were to do any research into either of those claims, you would find them false. Her approval ratings seem pretty average if not 1-2% lower than average, people have been reelected with lower. I will agree that yes, that makes her approval not THE BEST, but it is a far cry from the worst. The only documented time she made mention of racism was against a policy he supported and she did not, but she prefaced the comment by saying she didn't consider him to be racist.
You have to stop buying into that fake news and confirmation bias my dude.
eheathwho tf actually says if they approve of the VP or not? another dumbass poll that means nothing IMO
I never thought I'd get to this point but i am actually getting apolitical. Bunch of fucking clowns running up the debt and destroying the dollar no matter who is in office
VTshredder69I never thought I'd get to this point but i am actually getting apolitical. Bunch of fucking clowns running up the debt and destroying the dollar no matter who is in office
Record Low approval rating for a VP @32%. Tell me where i"m wrong.
A single poll from 14 months ago. Like I said, on average over 4 years she has been around the average mark, not mean, but average, middle of the pack to slightly on the low end. To read the article, it states that this poll is mostly a mirror of how respondents feel about the president and not the vp. It also only looks at 1000 people. If you look at polls you can find ones that give Bush Sr. (As vp) an approval of 27-30% on any given month and 50%+ less than 6 months later.
I think the more interesting stat is the disapproval rating as it has gone up significantly in the last 15 years or so for all candidates. Is this due to polarizing politics or a decrease in quality of life or what? That's the problem with quantitative data, we will never know the motivations behind any of it, just speculation.
I will admit that it is a low approval%. I think focusing on things like polls to base opinion and arguments off of are kind of weak and very team sporty.
I think you'd make a stronger argument if you stated policy you don't like and people would respect you and your opinions more if you admitted when you were wrong (like with the racist thing) instead of ignoring it.
As an example, there are a few months where, when in office, trump had an approval of 35% and a disapproval of 60%, (gallop polls) that is a 25 point difference to harris' "record breaking" 17 point difference. We can cherry pick all day but what's the point?
SmokedGoudaYeah it would be, but it should be someone you back because you like them…not simply because you dont like the other guy for being that guy. Like the candidate because of what they stand for and whether or not they presented a powerful and impactful campaign. Kamala doesnt pass it in my book. Would love to see it too, but she is not the one.
PoikenzA single poll from 14 months ago. Like I said, on average over 4 years she has been around the average mark, not mean, but average, middle of the pack to slightly on the low end. To read the article, it states that this poll is mostly a mirror of how respondents feel about the president and not the vp. It also only looks at 1000 people. If you look at polls you can find ones that give Bush Sr. (As vp) an approval of 27-30% on any given month and 50%+ less than 6 months later.
I think the more interesting stat is the disapproval rating as it has gone up significantly in the last 15 years or so for all candidates. Is this due to polarizing politics or a decrease in quality of life or what? That's the problem with quantitative data, we will never know the motivations behind any of it, just speculation.
I will admit that it is a low approval%. I think focusing on things like polls to base opinion and arguments off of are kind of weak and very team sporty.
I think you'd make a stronger argument if you stated policy you don't like and people would respect you and your opinions more if you admitted when you were wrong (like with the racist thing) instead of ignoring it.
As an example, there are a few months where, when in office, trump had an approval of 35% and a disapproval of 60%, (gallop polls) that is a 25 point difference to harris' "record breaking" 17 point difference. We can cherry pick all day but what's the point?
Here's my input - politics is bullshit.
Another opinion. Saying biden had racist policies, isn't all that far off from calling Biden a racist. nitpick all you want pal
VTshredder69Here's my input - politics is bullshit.
Another opinion. Saying biden had racist policies, isn't all that far off from calling Biden a racist. nitpick all you want pal
For someone who hates politics you certainly post about it a hell of a lot, maybe you should stop following it for your wellbeing?
She literally said that she didn't think he was a racist, so it is kind of far off from calling him a racist.
There are other politicians running for office that have racist policies and say derogatory and racist things towards groups and specific individuals. Are those people racist?
PoikenzFor someone who hates politics you certainly post about it a hell of a lot, maybe you should stop following it for your wellbeing?
She literally said that she didn't think he was a racist, so it is kind of far off from calling him a racist.
There are other politicians running for office that have racist policies and say derogatory and racist things towards groups and specific individuals. Are those people racist?
Right dude. Because saying he's not racist, then accusing of racist policies is WAYYY DIFFERENT
LOL YEA DUDE OF COURSE HE'S NOT RACIST DESPITE IMPLEMENTING RACIST POLICIES.
VTshredder69Right dude. Because saying he's not racist, then accusing of racist policies is WAYYY DIFFERENT
LOL YEA DUDE OF COURSE HE'S NOT RACIST DESPITE IMPLEMENTING RACIST POLICIES.
I believe we are talking about a single policy that he supported in the 70's, the more unfortunate part is that he still stands behind his decision. He could be racist, but Kamala, who has worked with the dude doesn't feel that he is, her judgement is probably better than either of ours on the subject. At least you don't have to decide if you want to vote for Biden or not.
I'm not sure why this is a big deal to you, I know a fair amount of people who have had to put up with racism in the work place, it's unfortunate, but it is something that happens. For Harris, if she had to put up with racism, it looks like she has at least been rewarded for it. You're over here blaming individuals instead of the system. How could a person of colour come to power without having to put up with racism in a racist system? You think Obama didn't have to deal with racism?
PoikenzI believe we are talking about a single policy that he supported in the 70's, the more unfortunate part is that he still stands behind his decision. He could be racist, but Kamala, who has worked with the dude doesn't feel that he is, her judgement is probably better than either of ours on the subject. At least you don't have to decide if you want to vote for Biden or not.
I'm not sure why this is a big deal to you, I know a fair amount of people who have had to put up with racism in the work place, it's unfortunate, but it is something that happens. For Harris, if she had to put up with racism, it looks like she has at least been rewarded for it. You're over here blaming individuals instead of the system. How could a person of colour come to power without having to put up with racism in a racist system? You think Obama didn't have to deal with racism?
The hilarious part for me was how EVERY republican was bitching about Biden and how old and useless he was and needed to be gone. Now that he’s gone and Trump doesn’t have a walk away victory suddenly every republican is pro Biden saying “it’s so unfair that he’s gone, he should have a chance to run his campaign, he was pushed out, yada yada etc”, because now there’s a very real chance Trump is going to lose.
PartyBullshiitThe hilarious part for me was how EVERY republican was bitching about Biden and how old and useless he was and needed to be gone. Now that he’s gone and Trump doesn’t have a walk away victory suddenly every republican is pro Biden saying “it’s so unfair that he’s gone, he should have a chance to run his campaign, he was pushed out, yada yada etc”, because now there’s a very real chance Trump is going to lose.
If he loses its own fault. Just hilarious how positive the coverage of kamala is.
HEY GUYS LETS FIX THE FOOD PRICES!! Waht a brilliant idea.
VTshredder69If he loses its own fault. Just hilarious how positive the coverage of kamala is.
HEY GUYS LETS FIX THE FOOD PRICES!! Waht a brilliant idea.
Food is a necessity, if you can't feed your population, how can they produce anything else for you?
I can't speak to the US or specific states, but where I am, price fixing is a huge concern that has been proven in court to be taking place. There should at a minimum be a limit to the how much someone is allowed to fuck someone else over, or do you like being bent over?
PoikenzFood is a necessity, if you can't feed your population, how can they produce anything else for you?
I can't speak to the US or specific states, but where I am, price fixing is a huge concern that has been proven in court to be taking place. There should at a minimum be a limit to the how much someone is allowed to fuck someone else over, or do you like being bent over?
I agree food is necessary. which is why intervening and putting a price on it absolutely bat shit crazy. Either you're cheating the farmers who will go out of the business or you're cheating the grocery store if the gov is setting a price on it that isn't enough to cover the farming or selling expenses.
The inflation hitting america is both republican and democrat issues but the democrats have definitely been worse at accentuating it and controlling it by endlessly printing USD to give to ukraine israel gaza and all the migrants.
VTshredder69I agree food is necessary. which is why intervening and putting a price on it absolutely bat shit crazy. Either you're cheating the farmers who will go out of the business or you're cheating the grocery store if the gov is setting a price on it that isn't enough to cover the farming or selling expenses.
The inflation hitting america is both republican and democrat issues but the democrats have definitely been worse at accentuating it and controlling it by endlessly printing USD to give to ukraine israel gaza and all the migrants.
As I've told you previously, funding wars are tricky and could be catastrophic if you were to just pull out. The farmers, unless unionized or with significant influence at their local/ state level are already getting fucked by not so poor grocery chain owners. No matter the solution, someone isn't going to be happy but it's better than just letting things run their course. Fixing the current economic model isn't easy or a one solution problem and it will take time. Brick by brick sort of deal.
Even though I thoroughly expect to be far more flattered with Harris’ debate performance than Trump, I think I’m just done voting on president. Such a waste of time, do yourself a favor and rather buy a lottery ticket if you really think your vote could change your life forever. I listened to the Trump-Musk interview and while inspirational as Trump is at times, what an absolute moron. He pats himself on the back for keeping interest rates low, lowering taxes, a booming economy, and even took credit for Covid stimulus because it “would have been 1929 if he didn’t”—fair. But economically, every single one of those things creates inflation (without raised rates/tax to keep it in check) but Trump continues to blame Biden for inflation and people not affording groceries. Is he really that dumb, or knows exactly what he’s doing and is so used to successfully gaslighting, he no longer even has to care. He’s right on border, the democrats have plenty of issues too I can’t even get started… just non stop indoctrination and free stuff.. I always will give Biden admin credit for diffusing the bomb that Trump handed him, but nobody is making any effort to actually address our fiscal issues. It’s so corporatized, manipulated media, now we have deep fakes.. it’s never been more important to be self sustaining than rely on gov’t as it is now. I’m democratic, but I usually grow tired of Democratic Party by the second term.
iH8powEven though I thoroughly expect to be far more flattered with Harris’ debate performance than Trump, I think I’m just done voting on president. Such a waste of time, do yourself a favor and rather buy a lottery ticket if you really think your vote could change your life forever. I listened to the Trump-Musk interview and while inspirational as Trump is at times, what an absolute moron. He pats himself on the back for keeping interest rates low, lowering taxes, a booming economy, and even took credit for Covid stimulus because it “would have been 1929 if he didn’t”—fair. But economically, every single one of those things creates inflation (without raised rates/tax to keep it in check) but Trump continues to blame Biden for inflation and people not affording groceries.
Trump does deserve some blame for turning on the money printer. But most of his term had remarkably low inflation in spite of record low interest rates. Biden meanwhile, was handed an inflationary economy and decided to keep rates low, give out trillions more in stimulus, and even try to cancel student debt. He even had the gaul to call his giant inflationary project "the inflation reduction act". That's some peak gaslighting right there
Now Kamala is avoiding interviews and not publishing any policy so that nobody has the chance to challenge her+biden's record. It's 2020 all over again when the Dems strategy was to hide from trump and hope he self destructs
SlushSeasonTrump does deserve some blame for turning on the money printer. But most of his term had remarkably low inflation in spite of record low interest rates. Biden meanwhile, was handed an inflationary economy and decided to keep rates low, give out trillions more in stimulus, and even try to cancel student debt. He even had the gaul to call his giant inflationary project "the inflation reduction act". That's some peak gaslighting right there
Now Kamala is avoiding interviews and not publishing any policy so that nobody has the chance to challenge her+biden's record. It's 2020 all over again when the Dems strategy was to hide from trump and hope he self destructs
It's almost as if , like every republican, you're ignoring post pandemic global inflation that absolutely slammed every single country on the planet. He navigated us out way better than any other country and inflation is way down . Prices will never return to pre pandemic lows. No matter who is in charge.
jfpIt's almost as if , like every republican, you're ignoring post pandemic global inflation that absolutely slammed every single country on the planet. He navigated us out way better than any other country and inflation is way down . Prices will never return to pre pandemic lows. No matter who is in charge.
First of all, no. Not every country on the planet was slammed by inflation. Europe has suffered a lot from inflation, but much of that can be attributed to issues with Russia and the effects of American inflation. Most of asia has had very low inflation. Mexico's inflation has not been much worse than normal. Most countries did not more than triple their inflation rates like we did. Especially not counties that had stable, low inflation rates for more than 10 years.
So, no, I'm not ignoring the post pandemic demand boom. What I'm stating is that Joe Biden saw the rampant inflation, and decided to dump trillions more of new money into the economy at the worst possible time. Calling this inflationary spending the "inflation reduction act" is a spit in the face to any voters that have the requisite 2 brain cells to understand that the act was designed to do everything except reduce inflation.
SlushSeasonFirst of all, no. Not every country on the planet was slammed by inflation. Europe has suffered a lot from inflation, but much of that can be attributed to issues with Russia and the effects of American inflation. Most of asia has had very low inflation. Mexico's inflation has not been much worse than normal. Most countries did not more than triple their inflation rates like we did. Especially not counties that had stable, low inflation rates for more than 10 years.
So, no, I'm not ignoring the post pandemic demand boom. What I'm stating is that Joe Biden saw the rampant inflation, and decided to dump trillions more of new money into the economy at the worst possible time. Calling this inflationary spending the "inflation reduction act" is a spit in the face to any voters that have the requisite 2 brain cells to understand that the act was designed to do everything except reduce inflation.
Someone gets it.
About as hilarious as Kamala promising to "Fix the housing crisis" that she's caused by allowing 10+ million illegals into the country and then subsidizing their housing.
The democrat lies are so in your face silly that they prey on morons.
Republicans lie too but at least they're not kindergarten level lies.
NOW CHILDREN I'M KAMALA HARRIS AND I WOULD LIKE TO TEACH YOU THE ABC'S!
SlushSeasonFirst of all, no. Not every country on the planet was slammed by inflation. Europe has suffered a lot from inflation, but much of that can be attributed to issues with Russia and the effects of American inflation. Most of asia has had very low inflation. Mexico's inflation has not been much worse than normal. Most countries did not more than triple their inflation rates like we did. Especially not counties that had stable, low inflation rates for more than 10 years.
So, no, I'm not ignoring the post pandemic demand boom. What I'm stating is that Joe Biden saw the rampant inflation, and decided to dump trillions more of new money into the economy at the worst possible time. Calling this inflationary spending the "inflation reduction act" is a spit in the face to any voters that have the requisite 2 brain cells to understand that the act was designed to do everything except reduce inflation.
From what I have read, this inflationary period is more or less global with some outliers like Japan, Mexico, and Pakistan. The majority of countries are reporting a 100%+ increase since 2021 while the US is only at 75% or so. This means that while not the best, the US has faired way better than a lot. https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/inflation-by-country/
- I don't like this site, but at least they make the info easily consumable for those who don't wish to dig through research papers.
In my own personal opinion, I'd say that inflation stats are misreported or misrepresented on the low end just to save face for sitting governments.
I don't think we need to discuss how poorly the pandemic was handled globally by companies and politicians alike.
I don't think either party will fix any of what you are complaining about so why are you pretending that the Republicans will?
PartyBullshiitThe hilarious part for me was how EVERY republican was bitching about Biden and how old and useless he was and needed to be gone. Now that he’s gone and Trump doesn’t have a walk away victory suddenly every republican is pro Biden saying “it’s so unfair that he’s gone, he should have a chance to run his campaign, he was pushed out, yada yada etc”, because now there’s a very real chance Trump is going to lose.
my only issue with it was she became the democratic nominee with out a democratic vote she was more or less "installed" as the candidate
JerryOfAllJerrysmy only issue with it was she became the democratic nominee with out a democratic vote she was more or less "installed" as the candidate
Because she has majority support of the party. She was vp for a reason. The person who would step in to be president if Biden couldn’t. There is no one in the party that could have challenged her realistically. Any “votes” would have been a waste of time. No one within the party itself feels she was installed. That’s a right wing talking point. If she wasn’t VP and second in line for the presidency and was just randomly picked then you could say she was installed. Which isn’t the case. Within the Democratic Party she has the highest support % by a long way. It’s not even close.
PartyBullshiitBecause she has majority support of the party. She was vp for a reason. The person who would step in to be president if Biden couldn’t. There is no one in the party that could have challenged her realistically. Any “votes” would have been a waste of time. No one within the party itself feels she was installed. That’s a right wing talking point. If she wasn’t VP and second in line for the presidency and was just randomly picked then you could say she was installed. Which isn’t the case. Within the Democratic Party she has the highest support % by a long way. It’s not even close.
I haven’t heard anyone else say she was installed, I stopped watching the news it’s just depressing now and nothing changes regardless of who is in office. But I definitely see what you mean as she was next in line and her rating were indicative of a pick but why would a vote be a waste of time? Usually if the incumbent isn’t running there is a vote between a couple candidates then debates between the 2 finalists on each side.
JerryOfAllJerrysI haven’t heard anyone else say she was installed, I stopped watching the news it’s just depressing now and nothing changes regardless of who is in office. But I definitely see what you mean as she was next in line and her rating were indicative of a pick but why would a vote be a waste of time? Usually if the incumbent isn’t running there is a vote between a couple candidates then debates between the 2 finalists on each side.
To be a candidate in the first place you have to meet minimum thresholds. There is no one else in the party that meets the thresholds needed at this point that would warrant a vote. Again she has majority support of the party. So having a “vote” would have been a waste of time. The current president dropped out of the running. She was next in line. She has full support of the current party. No major candidates tried throw their name into the hat. This isn’t a normal full term election cycle. If another major candidate would have stepped up and said they wanted to run things might have been different. That didn’t happen. It’s fun to say “we should have had a vote”. A vote between who? The party wants Harris and the party supports her.
JerryOfAllJerrysmy only issue with it was she became the democratic nominee with out a democratic vote she was more or less "installed" as the candidate
Who cares lol. Lots of countries like Canada and the uk the party chooses the nominee. If anything the us election process is unnecessarily drawn out, and party infighting results in more extreme candidates. If there had been a primary it would’ve been an endless shitstorm of people fighting about Gaza which probably would have just hurt the democrats chances. I think it’s nice to have a shorter election cycle
hi_vis360Who cares lol. Lots of countries like Canada and the uk the party chooses the nominee. If anything the us election process is unnecessarily drawn out, and party infighting results in more extreme candidates. If there had been a primary it would’ve been an endless shitstorm of people fighting about Gaza which probably would have just hurt the democrats chances. I think it’s nice to have a shorter election cycle
I agree and don’t, it def would be nice to just pick and be done but we’re a super power so our elections can effect other nations right now mainly Israel and Ukraine right now which really boils my blood. I’m just waiting for Kamala and trump to debate, I was leaning towards her but she doesn’t have enough interviews out for me to watch or her policy stances listed yet so I’m just playing the waiting game. Pretty tired of having to pick the lesser of two evils for 3 elections now
JerryOfAllJerrysI agree and don’t, it def would be nice to just pick and be done but we’re a super power so our elections can effect other nations right now mainly Israel and Ukraine right now which really boils my blood. I’m just waiting for Kamala and trump to debate, I was leaning towards her but she doesn’t have enough interviews out for me to watch or her policy stances listed yet so I’m just playing the waiting game. Pretty tired of having to pick the lesser of two evils for 3 elections now
Bro you outed yourself as an anti trans Elon musk lover. You’re hitting every republican talking point about harris. Let’s not pretend you’re “unsure” who you’re voting for. Just own the fact you’re a trump voter. In no world were you ever going to vote for Biden or Harris.
PartyBullshiitBro you outed yourself as an anti trans Elon musk lover. You’re hitting every republican talking point about harris. Let’s not pretend you’re “unsure” who you’re voting for. Just own the fact you’re a trump voter. In no world were you ever going to vote for Biden or Harris.
I still don't get how Democrats used to love the green energy deals which is exactly what Musk is doing and yet he disagrees with your politics so you hate him. LOL. What a party for all.
VTshredder69I still don't get how Democrats used to love the green energy deals which is exactly what Musk is doing and yet he disagrees with your politics so you hate him. LOL. What a party for all.
Just because he builds electric cars doesn’t take away from the fact he’s a shitty human being. Its really not that confusing.
VTshredder69Lol. Cuz he calls out democrats for their bullshit.
No because he’s a raging narcissist who only cares about himself, claims to protect free speech but bans anything he doesn’t like, treats his own children like shit, started sucking trumps balls because it would help his bottom line getting more corporate tax cuts while fucking over the middle class.
Unrelated but really crazy how much Fascist propaganda is coming out lately, Twitter has been deleted unfortunately, and Elon will rot in hell for boosting the visibility of those demonic accounts. Anyone know a good Twitter alternative?
Farmville420Unrelated but really crazy how much Fascist propaganda is coming out lately, Twitter has been deleted unfortunately, and Elon will rot in hell for boosting the visibility of those demonic accounts. Anyone know a good Twitter alternative?
did you guys know seattle literally burned to the ground in 2020? i must have been distracted by all of the transgender illegals eating my pets while having post birth abortions
cyphersdid you guys know seattle literally burned to the ground in 2020? i must have been distracted by all of the transgender illegals eating my pets while having post birth abortions
cyphersdid you guys know seattle literally burned to the ground in 2020? i must have been distracted by all of the transgender illegals eating my pets while having post birth abortions
Conversely: did you know that there are zero US troops in active warzones and no American woman has ever asked for a late term abortion and Kamala was never the Border Czar?
SlushSeasonConversely: did you know that there are zero US troops in active warzones and no American woman has ever asked for a late term abortion and Kamala was never the Border Czar?
Don't need US troops in warzones when you got other people doing the warring for you!
Didn't watch the debate, took a gal to a comedy show instead. Turns out we could have stayed home and just watched the debate. Woulda had the same experience and saved $40.
SlushSeasonWow... that sure was something last night
Trump just can't resist taking the bait. He's so determined to lose this election for no good reason
Even the dudes on conservative talk radio were ripping him to shreds for taking the bait every time and being incoherent, wild to hear that from them
They are fighting. Two weeks ago they attacked an ISIS compound in Syria and 7 Americans were injured.
They're also in constant combat with the Houthis in the red sea and gulf of Aden.
We have fewer troops in combat than we used to. But claiming that we have none is a lie.
jfpNot actively fighting. We have troops all over the world in hostile territories and have for decades .
