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Skis for Mom to try.

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BallClapper
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Whassup boogers. My dear mother is in the market for new skis. I have been making a list of stuff that she should try, I'll get to a skill and riding style description soon. So far she tried the Blizzard Sheeva 9, Volkl blaze 88, Salomon qst lux, and the Volkl Kenja 88. Going to list here pro's and cons for each ski. Blizzard, she liked how "solid" they felt but said on flat ground they like to "walk." Blaze 88, really liked but couldn't put into words. Salomon, AGGRESSIVELY MID. Kenja 88. Heavy and lazy. I'm saying what she said. Now on to the skill stuff, she's a high intermediate, can ski all named runs at our local in Washington. (Stevens Pass.) Parallel everywhere no wedge. Adopts a slightly forward stance over her skis, not as assertive as she should be for some of the ones she tried. Yea. She also is a ski instructor so thats another thing to think about. Ye. Here is the list I made.

Salomon Stance 84



Line pandora 94/ 84



Rossignol Rallybird 92



Elan Ripstick 88


Haikthxbye (tag anyone who might have tried any of these skis.)
Mar 23 2024 10:42AM
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Voyage86
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atomic punx
Mar 23 2024 10:47AM
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beerskier
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wet 189s or she shouldn’t be allowed to be an instructor
Mar 23 2024 11:12AM
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BallClapper
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Knew this was coming 😂
beerskierwet 189s or she shouldn’t be allowed to be an instructor
Mar 23 2024 3:03PM
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HypeBeast
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https://www.momentskis.com/collections/womens/products/bella

They have jellyfish on the top sheet. Jellyfish.
Mar 23 2024 7:52PM
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nmwninjart
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Last spring I demoed a bunch of random skis.
Only one on that list I've tried is the 94 width of the Volkl Blaze and I didn't really care for it. It felt like trying to steer an ocean liner.
See if you can find Atomic Maven to try. A lady ski that rips/carves nicely. I actually liked it.
Mar 23 2024 8:03PM
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Flwrs
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Yoo high intermediate and ski instructor? Are you not required to be an expert skier to instruct? And pass an examn and shit? That‘s how it works here 😅
Mar 24 2024 5:05AM
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BallClapper
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FlwrsYoo high intermediate and ski instructor? Are you not required to be an expert skier to instruct? And pass an examn and shit? That‘s how it works here 😅


Parallel on all named runs. double black included. Idk. probably advanced. I don't know.
Mar 24 2024 9:06AM
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skiP.E.I.
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FlwrsYoo high intermediate and ski instructor? Are you not required to be an expert skier to instruct? And pass an examn and shit? That‘s how it works here 😅


To be a level 1 instructor you just have to be able to ski parallel on a blue run. For CSIA anyway, Level 1s teach small children and folks who have never skied before. Level 2 generally teaches intro to parallel skiing. Many ski hills only have level 1 instructors and a few L2s though, because the higher level courses are prohibitively expensive and time consuming for anyone who's not wealthy, so if you're a good skier with experience instructing, you kind of end up teaching to your skill level.
Mar 24 2024 9:48AM
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skiP.E.I.
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Might want to add the narrower Fischer Ranger to the list. I haven't skied them but only hear good things. I hear great things about the Faction Dancer series as well. I haven't skied those either, but I've liked any Factions that I have used.
Mar 24 2024 9:54AM
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BallClapper
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skiP.E.I.To be a level 1 instructor you just have to be able to ski parallel on a blue run. For CSIA anyway, Level 1s teach small children and folks who have never skied before. Level 2 generally teaches intro to parallel skiing. Many ski hills only have level 1 instructors and a few L2s though, because the higher level courses are prohibitively expensive and time consuming for anyone who's not wealthy, so if you're a good skier with experience instructing, you kind of end up teaching to your skill level.


She has her psia level 1 and child specialist 1. Very fundamentally solid just timid sometimes.
Mar 24 2024 11:33AM
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skiP.E.I.
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BallClapperShe has her psia level 1 and child specialist 1. Very fundamentally solid just timid sometimes.


Yeah I was just responding to the other guy. I'm sure your mom is a great skier. Instructor level has little bearing on how good someone is at skiing.
Mar 24 2024 11:50AM
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Flwrs
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Thanks for explaining! Didn‘t know that
skiP.E.I.To be a level 1 instructor you just have to be able to ski parallel on a blue run. For CSIA anyway, Level 1s teach small children and folks who have never skied before. Level 2 generally teaches intro to parallel skiing. Many ski hills only have level 1 instructors and a few L2s though, because the higher level courses are prohibitively expensive and time consuming for anyone who's not wealthy, so if you're a good skier with experience instructing, you kind of end up teaching to your skill level.
Mar 24 2024 3:59PM
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Christian_Bale
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skiP.E.I.To be a level 1 instructor you just have to be able to ski parallel on a blue run. For CSIA anyway, Level 1s teach small children and folks who have never skied before. Level 2 generally teaches intro to parallel skiing. Many ski hills only have level 1 instructors and a few L2s though, because the higher level courses are prohibitively expensive and time consuming for anyone who's not wealthy, so if you're a good skier with experience instructing, you kind of end up teaching to your skill level.

when i took my CSIA level 1 quite a few people failed it as I recall. From my experience it's certainly not trivial to pass and they will fail you if you suck at skiing. That being said, not super impressed with the skiing ability of some of the certified ski instructors at my local.
Mar 24 2024 5:20PM
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skiP.E.I.
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Christian_Balewhen i took my CSIA level 1 quite a few people failed it as I recall. From my experience it's certainly not trivial to pass and they will fail you if you suck at skiing. That being said, not super impressed with the skiing ability of some of the certified ski instructors at my local.


The standards are a bit different these days it seems. When I took it back in 2006 a few people failed as well, including my friend and I, but we were cocky teenagers showing up late and dicking around, plus it seemed like they were keen to fail anyone with twintips. The course conductor would barely acknowledge us while he spent most of the time talking to the one guy with slalom skis on. I passed a few months later at a different mountain with a different conductor.
The parameters for the type of skiing you need to do are fairly narrow. You do need to have fairly good stance and be able to stay in control through different turn sizes at slow to moderate speeds. The CSIA level 1 is in no way performance skiing though, and the idea of skiing anything but piste is akin to going to space for many of the course conductors.

Sorry OP for going off topic in the thread.
Mar 24 2024 6:49PM
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BallClapper
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skiP.E.I.The standards are a bit different these days it seems. When I took it back in 2006 a few people failed as well, including my friend and I, but we were cocky teenagers showing up late and dicking around, plus it seemed like they were keen to fail anyone with twintips. The course conductor would barely acknowledge us while he spent most of the time talking to the one guy with slalom skis on. I passed a few months later at a different mountain with a different conductor.
The parameters for the type of skiing you need to do are fairly narrow. You do need to have fairly good stance and be able to stay in control through different turn sizes at slow to moderate speeds. The CSIA level 1 is in no way performance skiing though, and the idea of skiing anything but piste is akin to going to space for many of the course conductors.

Sorry OP for going off topic in the thread.


Nah you are good. I'm learning stuff too.
Mar 24 2024 7:01PM
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Rock_Inhabitant
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BallClapperNah you are good. I'm learning stuff too.


This has nothing to do with the thread but I feel like you have an Afro. I have no explanation but I feel it in my bones
Mar 24 2024 10:52PM
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PartyBullshiit
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My obligatory moment recommendation.

The Sierra. Let’s get mom on some triple camber. 162 available with 95 waist.

Onsale too. Prices are listed in CAD

https://skierssportshop.com/products/moment-sierra-ski-2023-24?_pos=7&_sid=e14c8da01&_ss=r&variant=40293681889398
Mar 25 2024 2:04PM
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BallClapper
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PartyBullshiitMy obligatory moment recommendation.

The Sierra. Let’s get mom on some triple camber. 162 available with 95 waist.

Onsale too. Prices are listed in CAD

https://skierssportshop.com/products/moment-sierra-ski-2023-24?_pos=7&_sid=e14c8da01&_ss=r&variant=40293681889398


She Is looking for a more directional shape. Saturday she tried the rallybird 92 and really enjoyed that. Can't remember what she liked about it but it tickled something.
Mar 25 2024 2:09PM
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PartyBullshiit
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BallClapperShe Is looking for a more directional shape. Saturday she tried the rallybird 92 and really enjoyed that. Can't remember what she liked about it but it tickled something.

If she wants to rip it.



https://skierssportshop.com/products/moment-commander-92-ski-2023-24?_pos=7&_sid=e14c8da01&_ss=r
Mar 25 2024 2:14PM
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BallClapper
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PartyBullshiitIf she wants to rip it.



https://skierssportshop.com/products/moment-commander-92-ski-2023-24?_pos=7&_sid=e14c8da01&_ss=r


Too long. All the skis she has tried have been in the 150 range. She's pretty short too. 5'2"
Mar 25 2024 2:22PM
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Zteezegod
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Vishnu wets
Mar 25 2024 7:47PM
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K-Dot.
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icelantic riviter 95 155
Mar 28 2024 10:37AM
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Lenny-
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HypeBeasthttps://www.momentskis.com/collections/womens/products/bella

They have jellyfish on the top sheet. Jellyfish.


Yo hypebeast, I-Im really happy for you, Ima let you finish, but Vishnu had the best jellyfish topsheet of all time, the best jellyfish topsheet of all time.

Mar 30 2024 3:55AM
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HypeBeast
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Lenny-Yo hypebeast, I-Im really happy for you, Ima let you finish, but Vishnu had the best jellyfish topsheet of all time, the best jellyfish topsheet of all time.


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Mar 30 2024 4:30AM
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Lenny-
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HypeBeastPics

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Mar 30 2024 5:42AM
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BallClapper
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Lenny-?


Goofy ahhh
Mar 30 2024 9:24AM
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KilaTsunami
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Nordica Unleashed. My mom loves them, other moms that I’ve sold them to loved them. Idk why yours wouldn’t.
Mar 31 2024 12:37AM
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HypeBeast
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Respectfully disagree. Moment's color scheme is more pleasing
Lenny-?
Mar 31 2024 2:29AM
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Non_State_Actor
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No black pearl on the list? I thought that was the queen of mum skis?
Mar 31 2024 3:07AM
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BallClapper
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KilaTsunamiNordica Unleashed. My mom loves them, other moms that I’ve sold them to loved them. Idk why yours wouldn’t.


She tried the Santa Anna 93 and loved it. She is going to try the 88 and then decide on one of the two.
Mar 31 2024 10:48AM
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Rock_Inhabitant
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Have the skis been procured
Apr 18 2024 9:29PM
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BallClapper
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Yep. Going with Santa Anna 88.
Apr 18 2024 9:30PM
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