Candide skis, any word on these?

sindreplassenshit quality

N41v131355if i recall correctly, they are pressed on atomic plant. How can they be shit quality?

sindreplassendude at my local literally broke his ski in half

Voyage86the crash probably looked like the guy who broke the toe off his boot and snapped the tail of his oblivions

Voyage86i really thought there would be plenty of reviews and content on these things by now but all i can find are the beginning of season stuff from ski essentials and others. anyone see anything more? specifically interested in the AK 121 but i’d be satisfied with anything on any of them. thanks.

RiplineIve used my 121 3 times, and its probably my new favoruite ski.



I bought the AK121 and the Magic J UL this winter, and have skiied the 121 in 2-3 feet powder in the woods, and around soft groomers and sidehits. And yes it is flat camber, but it 100% feels like fully rockered. I have the ARG 2 UL, which is a reverse camber reverse sidecut ski, and the ak121 almost feels like that when it comes to sufiness. If its icy, then you will just start sliding with no grip, which according to me at least, is really hilarous.

Its decently stiff, but still feels like a wheeliemachine because of the rocker.

My new favourite ski I think. Havent tried the Magic J UL yet, but that is a complete noodle in the tip and tail.

Because of the 121s stiffness combined with all that rocker, it feels surprisingly versatile, just not on hard groomers. Also depens how much you care about carving compared to "drifting".

Just ask me questions if u want

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Voyage86ok that sounds good. what length do you have and where is rec mount point?

HapgI wonder what the 101 is like. Been looking to replace my 101 wildcats with a stiff all mountain charger but can’t find any reviews.

HapgI wonder what the 101 is like. Been looking to replace my 101 wildcats with a stiff all mountain charger but can’t find any reviews.

RiplineI have the 184 and i am 182 cm tall.
Ski it at the candide line, which is 4cm ish from true center. The regular point is 6-7 cm from true center I think

Voyage86and they float well at the candide line? how hard can you push the shovels in pow or do you need to ski them pretty centered? and finally do they get pushed around in crud? they are only 1950 grand right? so wondering if they don’t charge well because of the low weight.

RiplineThey charge decently, but they are light as you say. I wouldnt ski them too much if its deep and firm. If its crud ill rather use my args since they are 2250 gr and superstiff.

Voyage86and how do they float at the candide line? do you need to ski very centered or can you push the shovels?

RiplineHmm I only skied them in life 3 feet, and felt great. supersurfy and easy to throw snowy turns with. Great in the trees.

I chose the candide line simply cause I enjoy riding switch and landing switch.

The regular line is probably even better for pure powderskiing.

animator@skidemon22 has the 101 and should be able to give you some thoughts about ut

t_murrsHave some BC 111s 186cm. Had been skiing on the Faction CT 3.0s for like 5ish seasons.

The Candide skis ski way differently, which kind of threw me off the first few days out on them. Not sure how to explain it, and part of it was probably because my old skis had lost some pop and hadn't been tuned in while, and I went from Shifts with tons of play between my boots and the skis to Pivots that are so locked in , but I felt like I was over turning/over popping with them and almost getting thrown around?

Now after ~10 days on them I do really like them, they are really stiff and really light and have skied really well in everything from park and groomers, to backcountry. You can really let em run in any snow and terrain, and are really stable.

Voyage86that’s sounds really good, what’s the mount on those?

t_murrsI have them mounted at the Candide line, which I would guess is ~ 2-4mm back from center, I have fun skiing park with them so its a good progressive mount

Voyage86how do they float at that mount point? can you lean into the shovels at all or do you need to ski pretty centered?

t_murrsThey float well, they have a ton of rocker skiing powder and through variable snow with the rocker feels like what they were made for. But you can still carve them pretty well for a 110mm+ ski under foot, they are going to be my everyday ski from now on.

You have to ski them more centered/balanced than a more traditional mounted ski but since they are so stiff I feel like I have to be more on top of them/more forward then the older faction models.

N41v131355Interesting... Have you tried later CT 3.0 versions, like from 21, 22? They were much stiffer than first years.

t_murrsI actually skied on 3 pairs of the old faction models, the old black ones with the big block lettering which were 112 underfoot, then some of the maroon ones that were 108 underfoot I think, and then some of the white and green ones which were the last model year and 112 underfoot as well, shout out to factions warranty department lol.

I do think the BC 111s feel stiffer than the last model year CT 3.0, and are definitely lighter. They really don't feel like any other ski I have had, but so far I like them and have more fun on them every time I take them out. I think they would make a good daily ski or fatter powder ski depending on where you live.

extremejuCan't decide between the ak 121 184 vs 190, i'm 182 tall, any advice ?

extremejuCan't decide between the ak 121 184 vs 190, i'm 182 tall, any advice ?

animator@skidemon22 has the 101 and should be able to give you some thoughts about ut

Voyage86i have no experience with these skis but my rule of thumb for a full camber ski is size up big time

FurlansHi. What do you mean with too light and too soft? Can you compare it to other skis?

Thanks a lot

Non_State_ActorDid you mean full rocker?

extremejuCandide line is around -4cm from true center (AK 121), anyone have try -3cm or 2.5cm from true center ?

RiplineI have the 184 and i am 182 cm tall.
Ski it at the candide line, which is 4cm ish from true center. The regular point is 6-7 cm from true center I think

extremejuAt your height are you ok with the 184 or it feel a bit short ?

skidemon22Too light, a bit too soft…

Not a bad ski, but it can’t hammer like the other skis in its category, and it doesn’t have the pop like the old CT2.0 or Rocker2 100

skidemon22What year CT2.0 are you/ have you been on?

McLSI first got the 2016 (green ones) which have been my favourites, mounted -2 and didn't take them to the park so much so they held up beautifully. I then had the 2017 (white/blue) which were a bit softer but also I mounted them true center and ran them in the park heavily, still they were awesome all round. My least favourite were the 2018 (brown), the durability was way off and the pop didnt feel as good. I still use the 2016 ones to this day and they somehow still rip crud and groomers and the occasional pow 7 years later on at least 4-6 weeks a year. Also I started on the og prodigy in 2014 and it felt way softer and jittery when above 60 ish kmh. Hope the details help, cheers

McLSI first got the 2016 (green ones) which have been my favourites, mounted -2 and didn't take them to the park so much so they held up beautifully. I then had the 2017 (white/blue) which were a bit softer but also I mounted them true center and ran them in the park heavily, still they were awesome all round. My least favourite were the 2018 (brown), the durability was way off and the pop didnt feel as good. I still use the 2016 ones to this day and they somehow still rip crud and groomers and the occasional pow 7 years later on at least 4-6 weeks a year. Also I started on the og prodigy in 2014 and it felt way softer and jittery when above 60 ish kmh. Hope the details help, cheers

HapgI wonder what the 101 is like. Been looking to replace my 101 wildcats with a stiff all mountain charger but can’t find any reviews.

skidemon22If you're interested in them, I'll sell you mine for a deal :)

McLSThank you, but I think I'm going to look for something with more power! I assume you are too? Anything you're thinking of pulling the trigger on?

skidemon22I grabbed the 2025 Bent 100, will start the season on those. I’ve also been eyeing the nightstick 97 and 104, but am wary of twin-tips with metal in them. Armada ARV 106 is also on my short list.

The 2025 Rossi Super BlackOps 98 was a consideration but I don’t care for the retro graphics (I’ve skied BOps 98 before and really liked it, though)

In a perfect world Salomon would re-release the Rocker2 100, probably the only ski I thought was the perfect all-mountain twin-tip