Question about Quiver killers

Just get rid of the frames bruh

Your first issue is frames. But you should be fine. Talk to a shop and they may or may not have some insight.

KoshermilkJust get rid of the frames bruh

BallClapperYour first issue is frames. But you should be fine. Talk to a shop and they may or may not have some insight.

They are going on some hellbents so really don’t need low stack height. plus I already got frames, and didn’t wanna buy/drill more holes into them.

They also had a tele insert put in which is pretty badass to tele on bents.

yeah youre good to do that.

Are you going to QK your Hellbents too? If you arent going to tour on them, just buy some Attacks for $150. If you are going to tour on them, it will probably be a similar amount to QKs to buy a used shift or a cheap pin. Frames suck.

hamsauceyeah youre good to do that.

Are you going to QK your Hellbents too? If you arent going to tour on them, just buy some Attacks for $150. If you are going to tour on them, it will probably be a similar amount to QKs to buy a used shift or a cheap pin. Frames suck.

Shits are worse.

muffMan.They are going on some hellbents so really don’t need low stack height. plus I already got frames, and didn’t wanna buy/drill more holes into them.

They also had a tele insert put in which is pretty badass to tele on bents.

no way ur touring with hellbents das crazy

BallClapperShits are worse.

Not worse than frames my dude. The cheapest, lightest frame bindings still weight 500 grams MORE than a shift. The uphill is a NIGHTMARE on frames, as the entire binding has to come up off the ski as opposed to just your heel. The Stack height on the uphill sucks, but not as much as the stack height on the downhill sucks. The bindings are even more fiddly than shifts, and they are clunky and in my experience break just as often if not more often than shifts. And although shifts prerelease on a downhill, most of the time its an adjustment problem.

Il be the first guy to shit on Shifts. I have had my fair share of prereleases, and sold mine as soon as I could afford CAST. However, If I had a novelty ski that I only skied on pow days and sometimes in the backcountry, and I was short on cash, or needed a MNC binding and freetour 2.0 wasnt a thing, I would get shifts or even daymakers (which honestly might be a good option for muffMan). Sayings shifts are worse than frames is just plain ignorant. Shifts suck, but frames suck more.

I promise you. Bring 2 pairs of skis to a trailhead. Do lap 1 on frames. Do lap 2 on shifts. Do lap 3 on pins. Night and day for all 3.

BallClapperShits are worse.

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**This post was edited on Feb 22nd 2024 at 12:26:53pm

hamsauceNot worse than frames my dude. The cheapest, lightest frame bindings still weight 500 grams MORE than a shift. The uphill is a NIGHTMARE on frames, as the entire binding has to come up off the ski as opposed to just your heel. The Stack height on the uphill sucks, but not as much as the stack height on the downhill sucks. The bindings are even more fiddly than shifts, and they are clunky and in my experience break just as often if not more often than shifts. And although shifts prerelease on a downhill, most of the time its an adjustment problem.

Il be the first guy to shit on Shifts. I have had my fair share of prereleases, and sold mine as soon as I could afford CAST. However, If I had a novelty ski that I only skied on pow days and sometimes in the backcountry, and I was short on cash, or needed a MNC binding and freetour 2.0 wasnt a thing, I would get shifts or even daymakers (which honestly might be a good option for muffMan). Sayings shifts are worse than frames is just plain ignorant. Shifts suck, but frames suck more.

I promise you. Bring 2 pairs of skis to a trailhead. Do lap 1 on frames. Do lap 2 on shifts. Do lap 3 on pins. Night and day for all 3.

The tech adapters really are slick for someone who wants to do basic touring or a few inbound laps. I was impressed with the upgrades.

if I knew I’d do super light tours I’d rock the techs over shifts/pt’s.

anything semi intense I’d want the shift/pt but like you I’d wait for the cast over them all.

waiting for some new 2.0 kits so I can throw a set in the ghost trains.

hamsauceyeah youre good to do that.

Are you going to QK your Hellbents too? If you arent going to tour on them, just buy some Attacks for $150. If you are going to tour on them, it will probably be a similar amount to QKs to buy a used shift or a cheap pin. Frames suck.

Hellbents are already QK, they got 8 inserts each ski so avoiding remounts for now.

I really don’t mind frames, been using them with reckoners for the last 2 years

Koshermilkno way ur touring with hellbents das crazy

Earn your turns, 194 length too so we’ll see. I just really wanted to ride hellbents, mostly inbound riding too

PartyBullshiitThe tech adapters really are slick for someone who wants to do basic touring or a few inbound laps. I was impressed with the upgrades.

if I knew I’d do super light tours I’d rock the techs over shifts/pt’s.

anything semi intense I’d want the shift/pt but like you I’d wait for the cast over them all.

waiting for some new 2.0 kits so I can throw a set in the ghost trains.

I got some skis with base pivots, if I’m tryin to go cast in a few years do I need a remount for it? Or can I use the same holes.

Sounds like you’ve done/looked into upgrading like that.

muffMan.I got some skis with base pivots, if I’m tryin to go cast in a few years do I need a remount for it? Or can I use the same holes.

Sounds like you’ve done/looked into upgrading like that.

Same holes. Just need to add two new ones for the brake retainers and risers.