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God damn I like the Kins a lot! Soft and light enough for buttering and swerving but still quick and fun to carve tight turns. Feels a bit like the ultimate evolution of older Candide 2.0.
Also can feel that Pollard touch between the Kins and Sakanas, carving them feels surprisingly similar
migidimigiHow do you like the Playmakers? Been eyeing them for a while for park usage
Dude I love them. They’re such a smooth ride. I feel like it’s the perfect amount of flex for an all mountain twin. Bendy but no chatter. Super stable off jumps and in the air. Honestly hard to believe it’s an Elan lol.
I just haven’t hit a rail with them yet, i really don’t wanna crack an edge so I’ve avoided rails. @tdollo cracked his. Maybe he can weigh in on wether or not rails are a good idea on these.
IsaacNW82Never thought I'd see Vishnu's and Stockli's next to each other in the same quiver
I was waiting for this comment haha. Honestly they're the only two skis i actually need. I got the Playmakers on a pro deal for like 200 and couldn't say no.
Don't currently own the unleashed but am considering it.
Want to try the sender free 110 before I decide. The dude selling the nordies wants 500 and the edges are as close to being fucked as they can be without being cracked. 💀
BallClapper
Don't currently own the unleashed but am considering it.
Want to try the sender free 110 before I decide. The dude selling the nordies wants 500 and the edges are as close to being fucked as they can be without being cracked. 💀
migidimigi
God damn I like the Kins a lot! Soft and light enough for buttering and swerving but still quick and fun to carve tight turns. Feels a bit like the ultimate evolution of older Candide 2.0.
Also can feel that Pollard touch between the Kins and Sakanas, carving them feels surprisingly similar
KilaTsunamiDude I love them. They’re such a smooth ride. I feel like it’s the perfect amount of flex for an all mountain twin. Bendy but no chatter. Super stable off jumps and in the air. Honestly hard to believe it’s an Elan lol.
I just haven’t hit a rail with them yet, i really don’t wanna crack an edge so I’ve avoided rails. @tdollo cracked his. Maybe he can weigh in on wether or not rails are a good idea on these.
where'd you mount them? I have them at +2 and am hoping I made the right decision.
KilaTsunamiI honestly went with factory rec so I could be in the center of the camber. There’s a whole thread of me contemplating the decision you can find lol
lmao ok glad we went through the same thought process. It took me like two weeks of back-and-forth with one of my shop buddies to decide the mount point
KilaTsunamiDude I love them. They’re such a smooth ride. I feel like it’s the perfect amount of flex for an all mountain twin. Bendy but no chatter. Super stable off jumps and in the air. Honestly hard to believe it’s an Elan lol.
I just haven’t hit a rail with them yet, i really don’t wanna crack an edge so I’ve avoided rails. @tdollo cracked his. Maybe he can weigh in on wether or not rails are a good idea on these.
I found after considerable park use the sidewalls gave out before the edges did. Had quite a few edge cracks underfoot but nothing pulling out until the sidewalls quit. Honestly would not use it as a daily park ski; but a proper detune underfoot and using them ever so often in the park was fine. They are so much fun on rails and what not tho, so light and snappy.
tdolloI found after considerable park use the sidewalls gave out before the edges did. Had quite a few edge cracks underfoot but nothing pulling out until the sidewalls quit. Honestly would not use it as a daily park ski; but a proper detune underfoot and using them ever so often in the park was fine. They are so much fun on rails and what not tho, so light and snappy.
Thanks for weighing in bro, yea that doesnt sound like a good choice for park given the cost and the performance out side the park. Its a shame companies dont beef up the underfoot area.
KilaTsunamiThanks for weighing in bro, yea that doesnt sound like a good choice for park given the cost and the performance out side the park. Its a shame companies dont beef up the underfoot area.
tdolloI found after considerable park use the sidewalls gave out before the edges did. Had quite a few edge cracks underfoot but nothing pulling out until the sidewalls quit. Honestly would not use it as a daily park ski; but a proper detune underfoot and using them ever so often in the park was fine. They are so much fun on rails and what not tho, so light and snappy.
Thanks for the info, maybe I can score a cheap used pair so it won't hurt as much. Seems like a ski that everyone who has it loves it
KilaTsunamiSki conditions aside all them pivots worth a grip 👀 good shit bro
Only 3 pairs of pivots I own still pass tests but in parts there is still value I suppose. I’d guesstimate all of them combined to be worth about a thousand maybe. Still love keeping relic set ups like the HGs, shot bindings and skis ready to snap missing 30% edge content. The black ON3Ps (mag 90s) are the same scenario but missing 60% of edge instead…
The black 9’s are in process of snapping in the tip, limited days left on them :(
still the craziest ski I’ve ever rode, so flexible in the tip & tail yet can stomp if you land bolts
Love the pants, copped them at the thrift store in the Bridgerwater Mill near Killington back in Vermont, they have bunch of embroidered skiers & skis on em, super dank
**This post was edited on Feb 22nd 2024 at 10:03:14pm