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WolfPup109
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hello my name is Luke and i ski in southern colorado. I am a level 3+ advanced skier and im looking at getting a dedicated powder setup for the bottomless days ahead. I am 30 years old, 5'9 and 145 lbs. I am currently looking at the moment wildcat,the friend by j skis, and on3p jeffrey 118. I am looking for a ski that can float and pivot effortlessy through tight trees, can charge through crud as the day goes on and i also a playful ski i can butter. any advice is appreciated
Jan 21 2024 8:41AM
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camtashcroft
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Jet blues
Jan 21 2024 9:21AM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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You should demo some, you probably live near lots of places that do demos.
Jan 21 2024 9:27AM
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Voyage86
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it’s generally difficult to find a ski that can charge and butter as a chargey ski is usually stiff and therefore hard to butter. Id say look at the rossignol sender free 110 though. They are chargers for sure and can pivot pretty well with the twin tip. I’ve seen people butter them but i couldn’t do it when I demoed them.
Jan 21 2024 12:24PM
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PartyBullshiit
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WolfPup109hello my name is Luke and i ski in southern colorado. I am a level 3+ advanced skier and im looking at getting a dedicated powder setup for the bottomless days ahead. I am 30 years old, 5'9 and 145 lbs. I am currently looking at the moment wildcat,the friend by j skis, and on3p jeffrey 118. I am looking for a ski that can float and pivot effortlessy through tight trees, can charge through crud as the day goes on and i also a playful ski i can butter. any advice is appreciated


I have a 190 118 wildcat id be willing to let go now that I have a ghost train.
Jan 21 2024 1:45PM
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BallClapper
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Bent 110.
Jan 22 2024 12:19PM
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Eli.braun98
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BallClapperBent 110.


I feel like thats too soft to properly charge
Jan 22 2024 12:38PM
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BallClapper
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Eli.braun98I feel like thats too soft to properly charge


Works for me, then again I'm light weight and don't spend that much time on the ground.
Jan 22 2024 2:55PM
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dkels
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I would consider the Fat-ypus D'Riddum based on your description. It is 118mm underfoot but has a very tight turning radius (something like 15m?) due to the 5-point design so it is very nimble for tree skiing. I'm 6' 190lbs and I find it has enough weight to still charge in Colorado snow. If you can wait until the end of the season you'll probably be able to buy one off their site for several hundred dollars off full price.
Jan 22 2024 3:52PM
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camtashcroft
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dkelsI would consider the Fat-ypus D'Riddum based on your description. It is 118mm underfoot but has a very tight turning radius (something like 15m?) due to the 5-point design so it is very nimble for tree skiing. I'm 6' 190lbs and I find it has enough weight to still charge in Colorado snow. If you can wait until the end of the season you'll probably be able to buy one off their site for several hundred dollars off full price.

That noodle has a 1 meter effective edge
Charging through crud would be a little loose
Jan 22 2024 5:21PM
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dkels
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camtashcroftThat noodle has a 1 meter effective edge
Charging through crud would be a little loose


True comment about the effective edge length, but for the light snow we get in Colorado I haven't personally found it to get bounced around in the crud - definitely wouldn't recommend it over the wildcat or Jeffrey for skiing the PNW. It is definitely less chargy than an Jeffry 118 (which I have also skied and was fond of), but is way more maneuverable with that tighter radius and shorter effective edge. I also ride the "Athlete Flex" version and wouldn't call that model a "noodle".
Jan 22 2024 6:19PM
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PartyBullshiit
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BallClapperWorks for me, then again I'm light weight and don't spend that much time on the ground.

110 is stiff for the bent line. But noodle overall
Jan 23 2024 1:11AM
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freeballer
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That ski doesn't exist. The more you can butter and pivot the less it charges through crud. You can get a ski that is decent at buttering and pivoting and decent at charging through crud, but you can't get a ski that is great at both.
Jan 23 2024 4:35PM
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Benchhitter
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There aren’t many skis that can be soft but also chargy. Blizzard Rustler 11s have some play in the tips and tails but also titanial so can definitely bust some cruddy. Also Head Oblivion 116, zuper chargy but full twin
Jan 23 2024 6:11PM
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Walrustooth
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If you like a springer feel in powder I’d get that new 115 Line Bacon. If you want a stiffer ride I’d with a Line Vision or pair of blade optics. The Atomic Bents may be a good option as well.
Jan 23 2024 7:09PM
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WolfPup109
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I understand I’m asking for the impossible. I’ll sacrifice playfulness for flotation. So what ski would you pick from the 3 I mentioned?
freeballerThat ski doesn't exist. The more you can butter and pivot the less it charges through crud. You can get a ski that is decent at buttering and pivoting and decent at charging through crud, but you can't get a ski that is great at both.
Jan 23 2024 7:10PM
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PartyBullshiit
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freeballerThat ski doesn't exist. The more you can butter and pivot the less it charges through crud. You can get a ski that is decent at buttering and pivoting and decent at charging through crud, but you can't get a ski that is great at both.


Ghost trains and chipotle bananas charge and pivot on a dime. They’re stiff so they don’t butter great but you can absolutely have a ski that charges like hell and pivots on a dime.
Jan 23 2024 8:00PM
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WolfPup109
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Alright guys line bacon 115 or wildcat 116?
Jan 23 2024 9:03PM
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Eli.braun98
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WolfPup109Alright guys line bacon 115 or wildcat 116?


wildcat
Jan 23 2024 9:23PM
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PartyBullshiit
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WolfPup109Alright guys line bacon 115 or wildcat 116?


Wildcat, but if your goal is to use it as a powder ski size up to the 190 118. Still charges like a beast but you gain a tad more float.
Jan 24 2024 12:21AM
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Walrustooth
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WolfPup109Alright guys line bacon 115 or wildcat 116?


Bacon all the way! They even have a wider one now too. Think it’s 120…extra float.
Jan 25 2024 2:40AM
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Ripline
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Whitewalker 121
Or ARG 2 UL 🥳
Jan 25 2024 6:41AM
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Ghini
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+1 for the Moment Wildcats
Jan 25 2024 8:59AM
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BallClapper
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freeballerThat ski doesn't exist. The more you can butter and pivot the less it charges through crud. You can get a ski that is decent at buttering and pivoting and decent at charging through crud, but you can't get a ski that is great at both.


Optic 114 does a pretty good job. Its just really heavy.
Jan 25 2024 9:42AM
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WolfPup109
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Na armada is shit quality these days
RiplineWhitewalker 121
Or ARG 2 UL 🥳
Jan 26 2024 6:44PM
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Ripline
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The candide AK121 looks insane
Jan 27 2024 1:14AM
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N41v131355
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RiplineThe candide AK121 looks insane

especially when you released from the binders in pow
Jan 27 2024 3:02AM
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BallClapper
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Liberty mutant.
Jan 29 2024 11:38AM
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BallClapper
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Eli.braun98I feel like thats too soft to properly charge


Coming back here after riding other skis. Bent 110 is a noodle. LOVE the Rossignol sender free 110 now. Like the bent but with metal. Perfection.
Mar 11 2024 12:58PM
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