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Non_State_ActorPivots?
hamsauceMay get downvotes for this but going along with the answer above of nice outerwear in the midwest, il add in pow skis for people who dont ever see more than a foot of fresh. Not saying pow sticks are bad, but just overrated.
deke_skiong basically any rockered ski will do just fine in a foot of pow
Voyage86a foot is pushing it. i’d say 6 inches is where the cut off starts. in 12 full inches of pow one would be far far happier on a 110 than an 90. in 6 inches of snow the 90 would fit right in.
BallClapperFull Tilts. It might be a loved piece of gear for many skiers but I would never recommend to anybody.
SlowbroYup. IMO they aren't any better than STHs (and way less satisfying to use). And their brakes suck. Still a top tier binding though.
bootspacereally nice ski jackets/pants in the midwest. see a lot of guys in ohio with 600 dollar jackets but we don’t even have 600 feet of elevation
Voyage86bro what, 15 degrees is still 15 degrees. absolutely ridiculous statement.
bootspacesam’s club thermal and any insulated jacket will cover it, i ski there 40 days a year and it’s unnecessary. im not saying dont get it, if i could be in full arc’teryx i would, its just not needed, and it doesn’t help that these guys are usually not super rippers
Voyage86ok then it’s never necessary no matter where you ski. the midwest can get the same harsh weather as anywhere els. why would an expensive coat be necessary for a colorado 15 degrees and not a midwest 15 degrees. and so to anyone out west wearing an expensive jacket, your wasting your money, sams club thermal and a costco puffer will keep you warm in -20
Non_State_ActorIn the PNW where it hovers around freezing and rains a lot on the ski hill a good coat with nice waterproof membranes are very helpful. You could always wear a hefty bag or one of those clear ones from the dry cleaner. Also skiing in knee deep or deeper pow the snow gets everywhere, it's why they make powder skirts and onesies and all that.
Voyage86ok then it’s never necessary no matter where you ski. the midwest can get the same harsh weather as anywhere els. why would an expensive coat be necessary for a colorado 15 degrees and not a midwest 15 degrees. and so to anyone out west wearing an expensive jacket, your wasting your money, sams club thermal and a costco puffer will keep you warm in -20
hamsauceTell me youve never skied PNW without actually telling me.
Heres a little lesson on layering- its not the cold that makes you cold, its the wet. If you sweat a lot and that has no way to escape, then you get cold. If you ski deep, wet, snow, and you get soaking wet, you will be freezing cold. Thats why i can stay warm any pow day with a just a base layer and a gore tex shell.
would i be warm if i start the day warm in a base later and a cheap puffy, and a thick hoodie? Yeah. Would i be freezing my butt off on the chairlift because i just got soaked from some pow shots? Absolutely.
Ive had many days where my shells kept me dry and therefore warm. But ive also had many days ripping night laps or hitting park where a hoodies worked just fine :)
Think of it this way- you and i go ski the midwest on the coldest day of the year. (excluding the UP). I wear a hoodie and maybe a puffy over my base layer. Then we go ski somewhere PNW on a warm pow day. You wear a hoodie and il wear a shell. We will see who is happier at the end of the day.
Voyage86i’m kind of confused how “600$ jacket” got translated into “gortex jacket.” of course you need a good waterproof shell to stay warm when it’s raining. Guess what, this year in wisconsin i’ve been skiing 4 times this season when it was 33 degrees and raining. do i then not need an expensive gortex jacket because the mountain im skiing on is 300 feet???? please let me know.
hamsauceBig difference between Arcteryx and an entry level goretex
