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Stoked on superunknown?

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Forrest.Gump
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every entrant should get paid $5000 minimum, for josh berman to film/use their footage from mammoth.
even to run a contest, in which kids will provide their videos for free, in which level1 is getting the most exposure..?
do these kids have to cover their own travel and medical ?
and he should pay $100k to the winner.
he will steal their action shots via contract and own them for himself...
superunknown, is this creep!
Jan 7 2024 2:09PM
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lluscho
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Forrest.Gumpevery entrant should get paid $5000 minimum, for josh berman to film/use their footage from mammoth.
even to run a contest, in which kids will provide their videos for free, in which level1 is getting the most exposure..?
do these kids have to cover their own travel and medical ?
and he should pay $100k to the winner.
he will steal their action shots via contract and own them for himself...
superunknown, is this creep!


Correct me if I'm wrong, but everything from flights to housing to food is paid for, I do agree, with the large company they are, they can afford to pay everyone a bit.
Jan 7 2024 2:41PM
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Forrest.Gump
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large company? berman is really conartist-ing you kiddos.
i would imagine mammoth provides housing and park build for their exposure... this is what he did throughout level1 existence. provide false delusional exposure to both sponsors and riders, walked away with the profit/RED cameras...
i cant believe i can say out loud, poor tammy walruss, invested everything he had in to level 1, just to create his own film company, "good company"
so sad.
Jan 7 2024 2:46PM
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cool270out
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Weird crazy troll man post aside,

I was thinking today about how level 1 hasn’t done anything significant with their superunknown winners in the last few years. I can barely remember who won and they def didn’t have solo projects w level 1. It’s be cool if they did.
Jan 7 2024 3:27PM
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Raf.Diaz.
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Am i known enough to be on superunknown?
Jan 7 2024 6:05PM
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hi_vis360
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Cold take
Jan 7 2024 8:55PM
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Forrest.Gump
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^ (i know im cold to the touch... and these posts are hard to digest, ill be the first to apologize....)
each contestant that enters his amateur edit,
and Wins an invite,
should receive a professionally produced edit of their freestyle skiing at the superunknown park, free of any copyrighting by level 1..., at the very least.
Jan 7 2024 9:02PM
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Slugger66
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I actually had the exact opposite impression. It seems Level 1 does a lot for skiers with little direct monetary gain. I've actually wondered how the company generates revenue these days aside from merchandise sales and ski premier tickets...

Also, since when is Level 1 a big company? My understanding is that it's Berman, Connor, and maybe some intern behind the scenes. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Regardless, Superunkown is fucking dope, and I don't see any amateur skiers complaining about an all expenses paid ski vacation in the world's best park. Have some fucking respect my guy.
Jan 7 2024 9:03PM
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Forrest.Gump
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level 1 owns the kids footy, yes, even wally...
exposure to potential sponsors is the only thing level 1 offers...
there are no sponsors left because he conartisted Everyone....
and he is not paying for 35 kids to fly into mammoth....
SO?
Jan 7 2024 9:30PM
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Christian_Bale
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Forrest.Gumplevel 1 owns the kids footy, yes, even wally...
exposure to potential sponsors is the only thing level 1 offers...
there are no sponsors left because he conartisted Everyone....
and he is not paying for 35 kids to fly into mammoth....
SO?

Yeah I guess level 1 does own the footage but don't they send the footage to the riders for them to use however they want? Don't see the problem here. Level 1 does use the footage for their instagram/promotion but I really doubt any skiers feel like they're getting a bad deal at all. Idk this seems like a really dumb take unless I'm missing something here
Jan 7 2024 9:40PM
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Christian_Bale
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cool270outWeird crazy troll man post aside,

I was thinking today about how level 1 hasn’t done anything significant with their superunknown winners in the last few years. I can barely remember who won and they def didn’t have solo projects w level 1. It’s be cool if they did.

I'm very glad SU is still going. Has always been fun to watch and it's nice that we have an institution that's been happening for two decades now.

While level 1 is undoubtedly still putting out good videos, one of the major points of SU (filming a part for their annual films) is gone. I hate to say it, but it's not the same without that. Times have changed and we are no longer in the era where are the best ski videos are being made by production companies. Most people probably aren't going to pay for content, which makes sense considering how many dope videos get released for free.
Jan 7 2024 9:55PM
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Forrest.Gump
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imagine if newschoolers provided monetization to its media providers...
Jan 7 2024 10:09PM
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ReturnToMonkey
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Forrest.Gumpimagine if newschoolers provided monetization to its media providers...

Imagine if all people were willing to pay for their content and not care about the free stuff
Jan 7 2024 10:18PM
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hi_vis360
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Forrest.Gump^ (i know im cold to the touch... and these posts are hard to digest, ill be the first to apologize....)
each contestant that enters his amateur edit,
and Wins an invite,
should receive a professionally produced edit of their freestyle skiing at the superunknown park, free of any copyrighting by level 1..., at the very least.


I’m not saying it’s cold hearted, I mean it’s a boring af take that people have been whining about for at least a decade. People expect L1P to be some endless spring of money that doesn’t need to make a profit for itself, that they should be dishing out huge piles of cash to skiers, and then those same whiners will turn around and NOT buy their ski movies. If you don’t like the way they do business, which is not a remotely controversial opinion, then don’t support them.
Jan 8 2024 8:08AM
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Forrest.Gump
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No.^
the reason Level 1 doesnt exist, is because josh didnt pay the skiers.
the only reason the kids that skied for and created level 1 dont talk about it, is because the contract that he holds on their footage includes nondisclosure agreements.
Its not common in the music industry. Its how record labels WORK! they own the artist, and their music and profit, write a fractional check to the performer...
Jan 8 2024 10:16AM
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hi_vis360
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Forrest.GumpNo.^
the reason Level 1 doesnt exist, is because josh didnt pay the skiers.
the only reason the kids that skied for and created level 1 dont talk about it, is because the contract that he holds on their footage includes nondisclosure agreements.
Its not common in the music industry. Its how record labels WORK! they own the artist, and their music and profit, write a fractional check to the performer...


Again, I am not disagreeing with anything you’re saying, it’s just a stale cold take. If you ask me it’s better for ski companies to produce content themselves and write it off as a marketing expense rather than do what L1P does. You are clearly not an L1P fan, so why would they listen to you when you demand that they pay a bunch of skiers a shitload of money that they almost certainly don’t have??
Jan 8 2024 4:59PM
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Forrest.Gump
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coming from a successful businessman, with people attacking me...
if he had paid tom wallisch , instead of claiming his career and sponsors thru L1 exposure.
we would have a level1 video this year, that i would probably buy with money...
instead he owns RED cameras that tom wallisch paid for...
furthermore, josh wasted funds on high end cameras, bad travel ideas, bad ideas and production instead of paying tom... he could still be filming his entire production on gopro and iphones, because that would be" sustainable..."
people try to take advantage of my business on a daily. i even had a kid, with no experience, criminally pretending to do licensed electrical work ask me for my bill, and he would turn it into the client... with a smile and a handshake. the kid was lucky i didnt have his potential license and career stricked in colorado.
Im a true pro.

**This post was edited on Jan 8th 2024 at 5:07:05pm
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cool270out
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Forrest.Gumpcoming from a successful businessman, with people attacking me...
if he had paid tom wallisch , instead of claiming his career and sponsors thru L1 exposure.
we would have a level1 video this year, that i would probably buy with money...
instead he owns RED cameras that tom wallisch paid for...
people try to take advantage of my business on a daily. i even had a kid, with no experience, criminally pretending to do licensed electrical work ask me for my bill, and he would turn it into the client... with a smile and a handshake. the kid was lucky i didnt have his potential license and career stricked in colorado.
Im a true pro.


Go find your meds big dog
Jan 8 2024 5:06PM
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Forrest.Gump
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cool270outGo find your meds big dog


you failed the burton challenge?
1084446
Jan 8 2024 5:09PM
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cool270out
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Forrest.Gumpyou failed the burton challenge?
1084446

I can hit a flat down, that a big deal for you?
Jan 8 2024 5:22PM
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cool270out
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cool270outI can hit a flat down, that a big deal for you?


Word thanks for the dm, that’s dope af that you slid it in snowboard boots
Jan 8 2024 5:49PM
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Forrest.Gump
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my freestyle set up is like a 2024 Ferrari compared to a 1970 pinto.
a full suspension Ibis, compared to a tricycle.
but lets do trained freestyle in race boots instead of freestyle!!!
look at what my genius does to the idiocracy...
ROFL.
and, no , im not suggesting my prototype is then answer, or for anybody but the best freestyle skiers in the world.
/rant
Jan 8 2024 6:14PM
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Slugger66
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hi_vis360If you don’t like the way they do business, which is not a remotely controversial opinion, then don’t support them.

Maybe I'm out of the loop, but what's the take here? I've only heard positive things about Level 1 but perhaps people are criticizing their new business model?

Disregarding the OP's schizophrenic ramblings, of course.
Jan 8 2024 9:05PM
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hi_vis360
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Slugger66Maybe I'm out of the loop, but what's the take here? I've only heard positive things about Level 1 but perhaps people are criticizing their new business model?

Disregarding the OP's schizophrenic ramblings, of course.


L1P doesn’t cover all of their athletes expenses on trips, they are expected to use money they get from sponsors. Basically L1P is a company that skiers can use to get more exposure, they aren’t a company that actually pays skiers. This is why a lot of skiers just release their own content now, they are basically cutting out the film company as a middle man. Back in the 2000s when it was hard to get clips because cameras were so much less accessible, the film production company model made a lot more sense. But it todays age where anyone can pick up a camera, it doesn’t make sense for all skiers to give their footage to L1P for exposure cause they can just produce and post their own stuff.

Idk how L1P current business model works with supporting smaller projects, I think it’s cool though. Any video with the L1P association is guaranteed to be high quality
Jan 9 2024 8:15AM
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Dlonetti
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the way OP writes posts stresses me out. bro just be yappin
Jan 9 2024 10:17AM
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Forrest.Gump
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^PTSD from being born... AMERICA!
Jan 9 2024 12:12PM
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Woody.
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Most schizo thread
Jan 9 2024 12:32PM
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eheath
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Superunknown is one of the best events that happens every year, every single skier I've ever interacted with at superunknown is having the time of their life and memories are made that will never be forgotten. Nobody there is expecting money from L1P thats not the point of Superunknown and its not like its pulling in a ton of revenue, its an event that is run at cost.

Superunknown shoots were some of the best trips/events I ever went too and I looked forward to attending every year, I imagine the feeling is the same for all the attendees to this day.
Jan 9 2024 12:33PM
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Forrest.Gump
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it would have been super cool of you to produce a pro edit for each amateur kid paying his way to the event....
how did you afford to get to the event? and what was your job?
Jan 9 2024 12:54PM
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Forrest.Gump
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it sucks that funds are/were allocated outside the kids that need the money.
this website is going to die next,
its owned by 360media,
and finally an entity is seeing people taking money that should not be.
people that are completely irrelevant to the scene, sucked money out some how....
went on trips, and produced nothing...?
how much does Nick Shoess get from NS to be a contributor? he also does not give any money to the kids he films, but collects a check directly from Ns, how much is that check? the kids that are skiing need Thier money.


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**This post was edited on Jan 9th 2024 at 1:15:06pm
Jan 9 2024 1:13PM
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Dlonetti
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bro sounds like abomber lowkey
Jan 9 2024 1:36PM
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snowfinder
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This thread is pointless.
Jan 9 2024 1:41PM
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eheath
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Forrest.Gumpit would have been super cool of you to produce a pro edit for each amateur kid paying his way to the event....

Every skier at SU is instructed to bring a hard drive to the event to take their footage home with them. You're misinformed and making assumptions. L1P hires an editor to make recap videos, do you even understand the time and money it would take to make 10 different edits of individual skiers? You're such a self proclaimed genius, but you're actually naive as fuck.

Forrest.Gumphow did you afford to get to the event? and what was your job?

I attended the event as an NS employee, NS paid for me to go, but lodging was always provided for superunknown, for everyone. Some events I was doing social media stuff, some I was filming the skiers.
Jan 9 2024 1:42PM
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Forrest.Gump
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my genius can only accept sensible conclusions.
lie, manipulate, sidestep , repeat, is a pattern i recognize all too well.
so berman let NS pay for his filmers?
whose camera did you use?
as a NS employee, what was your role traveling to summer camps?
why dont any kids release their own footy from the event?
if i was invited, i would hustle off my own edit....
my genius says , SU kids cant talk about it, because of a nondisclosue clause in L1 contract...

**This post was edited on Jan 9th 2024 at 2:07:31pm
Jan 9 2024 2:06PM
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Forrest.Gump
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at the very least, purging the head moderator,
would free up funding to pay $1000 per week to a media producing member, and $500 to an amateur media producing member of the community.
Jan 9 2024 2:12PM
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eheath
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Forrest.Gumpat the very least, purging the head moderator,
would free up funding to pay $1000 per week to a media producing member, and $500 to an amateur media producing member of the community.


imagine thinking I get paid $1000 a week for being head moderator. you know nothing dude.
Jan 9 2024 2:14PM
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eheath
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Forrest.Gumpwhy dont any kids release their own footy from the event?


They do, every year. You are wrong dude, get over it.
Jan 9 2024 2:15PM
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Forrest.Gump
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eheathimagine thinking I get paid $1000 a week for being head moderator. you know nothing dude.

argue with zip recruiter, my genius isnt listening....
the kids should be walking away with a L1 produced edit with no copyrighting, but they dont, i found one, it looks like "kuura" paid extra to have produced...
its a circle jerk.
furthermore, i looked up the "rules" each SU gets $2500 to travel to the event, in which some are abroad. scratch that! only the male and female winner get 2500 bones...
im imagining you take this much money to go there, for whatever your relevance may be...

**This post was edited on Jan 9th 2024 at 2:29:48pm
Jan 9 2024 2:27PM
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Forrest.Gump
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what a jerk , kuura left you out for filming...

Recap of the week with Level 1 shooting for Superunknown 20. Best clips saved for a project dropping this fall ;)

Filmed by:
Arttu Heikkinen
Josh Berman
Brady Perron
Ian Avery-Leaf
Owen Dahlberg
Gavin Rudy
Andrew Gayda
Andrew Mildenberger
Freedle Coty

Thank u all for the best week :) love u
Jan 9 2024 2:34PM
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eheath
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Forrest.Gumpargue with zip recruiter, my genius isnt listening....
the kids should be walking away with a L1 produced edit with no copyrighting, but they dont, i found one, it looks like "kuura" paid extra to have produced...
its a circle jerk.
furthermore, i looked up the "rules" each SU gets $2500 to travel to the event, in which some are abroad. scratch that! only the male and female winner get 2500 bones...
im imagining you take this much money to go there, for whatever your relevance may be...

**This post was edited on Jan 9th 2024 at 2:29:48pm



Jan 9 2024 2:58PM
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eheath
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Forrest.Gumpwhat a jerk , kuura left you out for filming...

Recap of the week with Level 1 shooting for Superunknown 20. Best clips saved for a project dropping this fall ;)

Filmed by:
Arttu Heikkinen
Josh Berman
Brady Perron
Ian Avery-Leaf
Owen Dahlberg
Gavin Rudy
Andrew Gayda
Andrew Mildenberger
Freedle Coty

Thank u all for the best week :) love u


thats because i didnt film any of it, I wasn't there.
Jan 9 2024 2:59PM
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Forrest.Gump
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workin hard, or hardly workin?
my legend is build on hard work, determination and a coping saw.
hows that rodeo coming along?
how do you pony up to the burton challenge?
#cope
Jan 9 2024 3:17PM
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fghtoffyrdmns
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How many tbis have you gotten nick?
Jan 9 2024 4:54PM
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Forrest.Gump
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fghtoffyrdmnsHow many tbis have you gotten nick?


you cant lock into a simple nosepress , huh?
maybe roasting some meat and getting drunk on warm beer will help you psychologically cope...
Not Sure... but my favorite TBI from "travis" delivering me his hardest running haymaker to my head... and me silencing him (8 weeks of baby food with jaw wired shut...) by breaking his jaw in the following split second... priceless.
but when the police asked me my name, and i responded, "the man , the myth , the legend...." i deserved an academy award for that.
its so sad, that you cant ski good, and attacked ankilla.

**This post was edited on Jan 9th 2024 at 7:10:19pm
Jan 9 2024 7:09PM
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TOAST.
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sorry you never won super unknown, you'll get it next year.
Jan 9 2024 7:38PM
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Forrest.Gump
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^never give up!
Im going to risk life and limb to film an edit this spring.
Invest everything I got just to get to ride a park for an "attaboy"
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/946334/Eminem---Stan--Long-Version--ft--Dido
Jan 9 2024 7:43PM
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TOAST.
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Forrest.Gump^never give up!
Im going to risk life and limb to film an edit this spring.
Invest everything I got just to get to ride a park for an "attaboy"
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/946334/Eminem---Stan--Long-Version--ft--Dido

atta boy I believe in you.
Jan 9 2024 9:14PM
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Level1
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OP is a wacko with no understanding of how we operate. We're too busy working on more great things for the ski community to even waste 10 seconds replying to this one. Have a great day!
Jan 10 2024 2:56PM
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Forrest.Gump
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Forrest.Gump
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Forrest.Gump
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fresh page, please.
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