Grrr! Any tips ?

TFisaKFEDI take it at like a 75 degree angle instead

also why do my knees give up when landing on the rail ?

first off, sounds like you already know your first problem. Try and get a better pop closer to 90, you could even get away with a little under that probably. If your knees are giving out, you might not be focusing enough weight on your legs. Make sure to land evenly on the rail with your weight distributed evenly and you should be good.

steez_apprenticefirst off, sounds like you already know your first problem. Try and get a better pop closer to 90, you could even get away with a little under that probably. If your knees are giving out, you might not be focusing enough weight on your legs. Make sure to land evenly on the rail with your weight distributed evenly and you should be good.

MmmK I'll try it tomorrow 😁
Idk each time I pop and try to go full 90 I end up fucking it up and going 75

Should my arms swing at all? Close to rail or further away on take off ?

Also is it normal that I "bounce" off the rail a bit when I land on it?

A video would be helpful for specific advice but here's some general advice for OP and anyone else who's trying:

1. Mandatory first step: make sure you're very comfortable hitting ride on features (ie boxes), popping properly and landing fully sideways. make sure your weight is distributed evenly, and not too much of your back foot.

2. line up the rail. You don't want an angle that's too aggressive or you'll probably go too far over the rail (i used to have this problem.) Your angle should be pretty close to straight. I see a lot of people taking to wide of an angle when they're learning rails. Choose the right amount of speed. If you go slow it's hard to balance, but don't go so fast that you don't feel in control.

3. stance: feet should be shoulder width apart. Apply forward pressure - you should feel your shins against the front of your boots. One of the biggest mistakes I see is that people lean back because they get scared (normal reaction)

4. Pop and fully commit to the 90. This includes your shoulders as well.

5. Look at the end of the rail - which is where you want to go. You can even point to the end of the rail with your downhill hand. This might seem goofy but it can really help.

Do all of these steps and you've got it. It might not happen right away but you'll get it for sure.

TFisaKFEDAlso is it normal that I "bounce" off the rail a bit when I land on it?

No that doesn't sound normal. I'd guess that you're popping properly but you legs are pretty straight when you hit the rail. Hitting a down rail should generally feel like a pretty small impact

Something that helped my brother learn to stay on the rail and not just split it was to try taking it to sw. It helped him keep his feet together and stay on the rail longer. Idk worked for him

you gotta learn on a sack-proof rail brotha

Bend your knees, don’t worry about coming out to regs, just commit to coming out switch first.

Sometimes it's all in your head. You worry about eating shit, and don't commit fully and then eat shit. Brains are dumb.

If there's a smaller rail you can learn on that's not so tall, maybe even shorter length get some reps up on that. Also hiking a feature can be a good way to make small changes and dial something in as its the exact same rail, same setup.

You sound like you got it you just gotta commit and build that confidence. Once you get it dialed hammer them out till you can do them in your sleep.