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Narrow underfoot, big symetrical rocker & stiff flex park skis ?

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cvltshit
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Hello,

I am 183cm french retarded person and I've been riding exclusively on (182 - rad. 21) Punx (then Punx 7) for almost 10 years now and despite my obvious appreciation for the ski model I wish to try something else. Here is a description of what I am looking for :

-relatively narrow underfoot (84-95max) -must be stiff (the punx's flex is what kept me away from anything else ever since), -big symetrical rocker -short radius -not overly pricey -durable (this goes with stiffness to some extent)

my guess would have been :

-ON3P Mango 90 (186 - rad. 19m) but the price makes them out of my hands

-Movement Fly 90 (184 - rad. 16m) but the rocker doesn't seem big enough

not my things :

-x Atomic Bent 90 (184 - rad. 21m) too big radius, no asymetrical rocker, and not into all mountain park skis

-x Big rockers are usually found on +100/+105 skis with rad. +20m, unnecessary heavier, big underfoot is useless on slope and hard snow which is 100% of my skiing.



Is there any park skis (+180cm) that comes to your mind matching that kind of description ?

Thank you
Dec 12 2023 11:37AM
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C.R.E.A.M
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Not exactly but worth considering: K2 Poacher (Cheap, pretty stiff, not a ton of rocker); Black Crows Mirus Cor (not SUPER stiff but pretty symmetrical, 15m radius, and very rockered for the underfoot)
Dec 12 2023 11:40AM
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cvltshit
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C.R.E.A.MNot exactly but worth considering: K2 Poacher (Cheap, pretty stiff, not a ton of rocker); Black Crows Mirus Cor (not SUPER stiff but pretty symmetrical, 15m radius, and very rockered for the underfoot)


Both of them doesn't have enough rocker, forgot to mention :

The pair would not replace my Punx, but to have a lil more fun shredding low speed slopes on chill family resorts days



edit : wait the black crows looks not that bad

**This post was edited on Dec 12th 2023 at 11:49:21am
Dec 12 2023 11:46AM
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isaacwrong
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Helix 88, rippah, revolt 84/90, arv 88 are a few that come to mind
Dec 12 2023 11:51AM
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cvltshit
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isaacwrongHelix 88, rippah, revolt 84/90, arv 88 are a few that come to mind

Doesn't match cause it needs big Big BIG rockers (on narrow stiffs skis), except ON3P and previous Moment park skis, I don't know of anyone... Maybe Line Chronic 94 but ain't they quite soft ?...
Dec 12 2023 12:02PM
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Eli.braun98
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the Moment Frankenski might be worth looking at even though it is a little wider than what you want
Dec 12 2023 12:15PM
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C.R.E.A.M
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cvltshitBoth of them doesn't have enough rocker, forgot to mention :

The pair would not replace my Punx, but to have a lil more fun shredding low speed slopes on chill family resorts days



edit : wait the black crows looks not that bad

**This post was edited on Dec 12th 2023 at 11:49:21am


I will tell you that the Black Crows are the exact ski for low speed chill family days on blues and even greens. It is the most "fun" ski I own.
Dec 12 2023 12:20PM
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Eli.braun98
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you can also use soothe ski to narrow down your options
Dec 12 2023 12:21PM
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cvltshit
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Eli.braun98the Moment Frankenski might be worth looking at even though it is a little wider than what you want


Yeah I know both ON3P and Moment are on that segment but same deal it's quite too pricey for me unfortunately i wouldn't hesitate if not (France got them big taxes on imported goods which adds up to almost 1k a pair total)
Dec 12 2023 1:00PM
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fabbe
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189 WETS
Dec 12 2023 3:39PM
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AlexUrquhart
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cvltshitDoesn't match cause it needs big Big BIG rockers (on narrow stiffs skis), except ON3P and previous Moment park skis, I don't know of anyone... Maybe Line Chronic 94 but ain't they quite soft ?...


I have the chronic 101, and they rip. Stiffer than I was expecting (comparable to helix 98) and have a really nice rocker profile (pretty moderate amount tho). They also carve and hook up on groomers better than any park ski I have owned.

Very fun stable ski that is easy to maneuver
Dec 12 2023 4:44PM
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cvltshit
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fabbe189 WETS


i heard vishnu were flippy floppy spaghetti that bbvvLHlbVlhlvlbvlh when you go speedy
Dec 12 2023 8:55PM
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Eli.braun98
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cvltshiti heard vishnu were flippy floppy spaghetti that bbvvLHlbVlhlvlbvlh when you go speedy


yeah they offer the plus but from my understanding its still pretty soft
Dec 12 2023 8:57PM
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Lemuel
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https://www.newschoolers.com/bst/thread/6808/184-Moment-Vice



I was / still am very tempted to buy these. Buy them so I won't have to. This is probably as close to what you are looking for as you can find.

**This post was edited on Dec 12th 2023 at 11:21:55pm
Dec 12 2023 11:20PM
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cvltshit
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C.R.E.A.MI will tell you that the Black Crows are the exact ski for low speed chill family days on blues and even greens. It is the most "fun" ski I own.

Flex is expected to be quite soft according to their website, if it was only manner of fun i'd go with a softer skis overall but still like to beat the shit out of em to some extent

Eli.braun98you can also use soothe ski to narrow down your options

some EU brands missing unfortunately + didn't find filters for the rocker ?

AlexUrquhartI have the chronic 101, and they rip. Stiffer than I was expecting (comparable to helix 98) and have a really nice rocker profile (pretty moderate amount tho). They also carve and hook up on groomers better than any park ski I have owned.

Very fun stable ski that is easy to maneuver

Underfoot is too big, had a closer look at the Chronic 94 tho but the rocker is actually not as pronounced as I first though

Lemuelhttps://www.newschoolers.com/bst/thread/6808/184-Moment-Vice



I was / still am very tempted to buy these. Buy them so I won't have to. This is probably as close to what you are looking for as you can find.

**This post was edited on Dec 12th 2023 at 11:21:55pm


If I was in the US I'd definitely go for them. You def should take em.
After comparing Line Chronic 94 to the Movement I finally found a good deal on the Fly 90 + Marker Griffon bindings shipped 550.
Will make short review if anyone's interested.
Thanks for all your repliez
Dec 14 2023 3:16AM
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