Destroying glaciers to ski in the off season

Farmville420Hasn't mount hood been doing this forever? Idgi

quintcorkWhat's the repercussions of destroying glaciers?

eheathI'm guessing it has to do with the whole climate change thing and how glaciers are already disappearing, melting away and raising the ocean levels. Maybe they just wanna look at it every day.

Goretex_VidalGlacial melt is a primary source of drinking water in many higher altitudes; Bolivia is already dealing with severe droughts as a result of losing their ice fields and glaciers over the past 40 years. In turn this drives people who rely on agriculture into the service economies of the cities, driving up costs of living and straining the cities already drought-prone water systems. Strains like that cause migration, overwhelming neighboring countries’ own infrastructure as well.

Idk about land ownership for these resorts (used to the US where many resorts lease the land from the federal government) but if I was a Swiss citizen concerned about things like drought and water supply I’d see this in the same vein as a business dumping toxic waste into a public water supply.

It’s putting short term profits over the business and society it trades in’s long term stability and survival.

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eheathI'm guessing it has to do with the whole climate change thing and how glaciers are already disappearing, melting away and raising the ocean levels. Maybe they just wanna look at it every day.

eheathMount hood is a snow field, not a glacier. Big difference.

RIP_leos_shackThe glaciers will all be gone in 20 years anyway so it's kind of a moot point.

SteezyYeeterthey've been saying that since 1980 zlawg 💀💀💀

Farmville420Hasn't mount hood been doing this forever? Idgi

eheathMount hood is a snow field, not a glacier. Big difference.

PeppermillRenoI think they were worried about global freezing and another ice age in 1980.

There are some elements of the climate change topic that are overblown. Glacial melt absolutely is not one of them.

SteezyYeetervalid. im just here saying that they'll still be here in 20 years 🙋

either way they shouldn't be destroying them

b0sswho are you to tell people what to do with their property.

hi_vis360Anybody who knows anything about how glaciers work knows this will for sure make it melt faster, which is bad. Filling in crevasses seems chill though I think that would actually make it melt slower? Less water penetrating to the bottom of the glacier = less melt, someone who is glaciology expert correct me though

PeppermillRenoThe minor league FWT event was whack as shit too when I was at Taos just rich kids whos parents paid to be there snowboarding and the womens events were extremely lame and mens skiing kind of sucked too they all did the same line.

SlushSeasonI love the FWT and watch the ski men in every comp. But the women and boarders sections are super weak by comparison though. It's like almost all of the women and boarders that are good at big mountain just get movie deals instead and ditch the comp circuit so it's way less competitive overall

SteezyYeetervalid. im just here saying that they'll still be here in 20 years 🙋

either way they shouldn't be destroying them

GhiniNot their property.
FIS should accept they can not organise events that early in the season.

eheathMount hood is a snow field, not a glacier. Big difference.

Golden_JoeUmmmmmmm which is the skiing part?
https://www.usgs.gov/volcanoes/mount-hood/glaciers-mount-hood-oregon

quintcorkWhat's the repercussions of destroying glaciers?

hi_vis360Anybody who knows anything about how glaciers work knows this will for sure make it melt faster, which is bad. Filling in crevasses seems chill though I think that would actually make it melt slower? Less water penetrating to the bottom of the glacier = less melt, someone who is glaciology expert correct me though

JesusOnTopSorry to tell ya man but glaciologists do NOT waste their Time on NS

Skipow907While I’m not a glaciologist, I kinda doubt that this has much effect on the glacier itself, all the photos look like they’re just moving around some nevé and firn around to fill in some crevasses and build a race course, I highly doubt they’re digging away at the actual ice itself. It’s October, whatever ice they exposed won’t melt much before winter comes. Definitely will disrupt the ice formation in the areas they stripped snow from but I’d guess that in a few years enough firn accumulates to make it unnoticeable. Plus they’re pilling up the snow they dug up in other spots, kinda negating the whole thing. The glaciers are still screwed unfortunately and FIS still sucks but like this probably isn’t gonna have much of a meaningful effect on the glacier

kobajaki.mazuWell, snow ≠ glacier ice. The ice on a glacier takes a long time to form (depending on the circumstances like temperatures and dynamics of the glacier). Snow can be penetrated way better by liquid precipitation than ice. Furthermore, taking ice out of a glacier always destabilize the glacier itself. If you have a small glacier and take out the ice and spread it, you enlarge its surface so it melts faster (same as snow piles in winter, they melt slower in the sun).
Another point is, that glaciers kind of "hold up" loose material on the sidewalls of its bed. So if the glacier is gone, rockfalls are way more likely. So yes, I'd say, digging up glaciers is indeed a problem. You're taking away material that took decades to form and grind it up and spread it out so that the sun just melts it away.

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b0sswho are you to tell people what to do with their property.

FrombrumtobrazilIt’s not their fucking property. You can’t just own a mountain.