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GhiniI guess there are more Shift like bindings in the works..?
Trab had the TR1 (?) that needed weird boot mod or weird inserts on the heels, if they changed that heel pieces to accept normal heels they would have had a solid offering.
I forgot about the Marker Duke PT things, how do they sell? Somehow I can not take that serious..
I think the Duke PT is a great binding, but for the right use. Most out there will compare it to other options like shifts, CAST, etc. because that's just what we do in this industry. But really the Duke PT is simply a super strong skiing binding (I mean really, it's one of the dampest hard charging bindings I've ever skied, and does ski vastly better than a shift) for mostly alpine use that just happens to have the ability to convert into a tech binding for some uphills. It's not what most need and some buy without really needing it, but that's not a bad thing necessarily.
Can someone answer where is this boot sits compared to the others in the lineup. Like is it the same shell as the pro model just with a unique graphic?
ZenyattaKickCan someone answer where is this boot sits compared to the others in the lineup. Like is it the same shell as the pro model just with a unique graphic?
@tomPietrowski can give more insight if I miss something but it’s a totally new boot. A 130 with a wrap liner doesn’t exist in the lineup as we speak. The current team one is a 120 with a tongue liner so it’s a totally new boot. Definitely aimed towards that hard charging freeride person
Kbob9490% of people touring don’t truly need a fully moving upper cuff, the only time that cuff comes into play is on flat ground while touring which is pretty much never.
I take it that you do not tour ;)
By all means, the setup makes sense for sidehilling or (very) short tours to reach above lift accessed terrain / where your sled can take you. That being said, you need to be an absolute nihilist / glutton for punishment to take a regular alpine boot with tech bindings out for a big day touring instead of a beefy 1900gr 50/50 boot - regardless of how gnarly the line you are about to ski is. Beefy touring boots ski pretty damned well.
Kbob94@tomPietrowski correct me if I’m wrong or missing a thought but It completely makes sense, 90% of people touring don’t truly need a fully moving upper cuff, the only time that cuff comes into play is on flat ground while touring which is pretty much never. So it actually makes a ton of sense to have a tech toe and bomber downhill shell to get the best of both worlds.
kid-kapowthey did just that prior to this season. There is also a rumor that ATK is to release some new harder charging tech binding, though no info is know thus far. Time will tell eh
Totally missed that, thanks! Need to test that.. They are terrible at marketing and all but that could be one of the best bindings in the segment..
BallClapperY'all gear testers, when will you get your hands on the bent 100?
SkiEssentials made a video on it:
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1086104/2025-Atomic-Bent-100-On-Snow-Ski-Review-at-Pico-Mountain-with-SkiEssentials-comIt is kinda interesting that something that some of the short comings of the previous version was never mentioned in their videos of those iterations, but are described as being fixed / longer an issue in the new ones. So kinda useful to keep that in mind when watching their videos -> the are trying to push gear first, push info/positives second and provide more balanced reviews a kinda distant third. Oh well, I still enjoy their vids and appreciate the effort.
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1086104/2025-Atomic-Bent-100-On-Snow-Ski-Review-at-Pico-Mountain-with-SkiEssentials-comIt is kinda interesting that something that some of the short comings of the previous version was never mentioned in their videos of those iterations, but are described as being fixed / longer an issue in the new ones. So kinda useful to keep that in mind when watching their videos -> the are trying to push gear first, push info/positives second and provide more balanced reviews a kinda distant third. Oh well, I still enjoy their vids and appreciate the effort.
I've been skiing the new Salomon ski a bunch over the past few days, say what you want about the tip-shape, it's definitely something different and something fun. And it bears 0 similarity to the ski you're all bitching about it looking like. Do I love the graphic, not really but it's striking and definitely pops way better in person. The ski, however... I think it's going to be a very popular one ski quiver. I'm waiting to get it into some softer snow and shoot some photos but we have a review coming...
In other news, Scott has a whole new line of all-mountain freestyle twins now, called SEA. There's an 88, 98, 108 and 116. They have pretty interesting shapes, another company getting back into the game is always cool to see too.
sashkoI don't get that trend. How does it make sense? What is their intended usage?
Think of areas like whistler where you may skin for 30-45 min to hit a big zone or maybe a BC quicker. For that type of skiing there is nothing better than a fixed cuff boot so making a small skin in a fixed cuff boot is worth it compared to trying to boot pack out there
Kbob94@tomPietrowski correct me if I’m wrong or missing a thought but It completely makes sense, 90% of people touring don’t truly need a fully moving upper cuff, the only time that cuff comes into play is on flat ground while touring which is pretty much never. So it actually makes a ton of sense to have a tech toe and bomber downhill shell to get the best of both worlds.
hi_vis360This is definitely not true on the east coast and there are plenty of people who tour here. After getting a boot with walk mode, I will absolutely never go back. I’m glad my resort boots have a fixed cuff but touring without walk mode sucks ass when you’re going over rolling forested terrain…not everyone is doing switchbacks up an alpine face
I think what confuses people is the word tour. If you are going out to tour for a few hours up to ski something cool but not insane yeah you dont want a boot like this it makes no sense. Get a walk mode and enjoy the ease of use.
But if you BC kicker is a 30min skin out of resort then a boot like this makes total sense. You want a no compromise boot for the kicker and short little access skins a boot like this is fine.
People get stuck thinking all touring is 4-5 hours when for a lot of people these days it is 30min or less to get to rad terrain. Think enduro bike vs xc
ZenyattaKickCan someone answer where is this boot sits compared to the others in the lineup. Like is it the same shell as the pro model just with a unique graphic?
The KF is basically the soul shell with a 120 tongue and the wrap liner. So its like the team boots we had but I decided to change the tongue liner to wrap as that is what Karl prefers and also it just is more in line with what these boots are. Wrap liners feel great in them so lets just offer our stiffest fixed cuff boot with the wrap again.
tomPietrowskiThe KF is basically the soul shell with a 120 tongue and the wrap liner. So its like the team boots we had but I decided to change the tongue liner to wrap as that is what Karl prefers and also it just is more in line with what these boots are. Wrap liners feel great in them so lets just offer our stiffest fixed cuff boot with the wrap again.
Hyped for these. Am I incorrect thinking FT made a 130 tongue at some point? I thought the 120 was akin to the old #10?
