PAC 12 GONE

It's all good. I'll be happy to see USC never able to win their conference again.

Shuffling up the deck. Never gets old every couple of years

the Pac conference dug their own grave. Idiots totally screwed up by being greedy as hell and stupid.

College sports are now dumber than ever.

im glad BYU is a big-12 school now instead of MWC, at least the whole country can watch them choke and get blown out. Same with the Utes.

4 power divisions will be better IMO, all this does is expand the number of teams you can play for conference play and will help other teams reach the top 12 (and eventually top 16) that otherwise would have weaker schedules. There needs to be tiers of conferences and the pac12 is just going to become MW 2.0

That being said, its dumb this is all happening because colleges want MORE money not to strengthen the sport, but it'll likely buff out. College sports have been underwhelming to me for a long time, this doesnt really change much to me.

Big 10 taking the sun as per usual

eheathCollege sports have been underwhelming to me for a long time, this doesnt really change much to me.

This totally fucks things for other sports that arent football... I wish they would just separate the football conferences from the other sports. Like, it's idiotic for football as it is, but it doesnt need to fuck up every sport - especially when it's fully healthy to have the conferences as they are to begin with.

There's no good reason why womens water polo teams should need to travel across multiple time zones in the middle of classes just so rich athletic directors can get a bonus and so the NCAA can exploit the fuck out of their labour.

PacificRimJobThis totally fucks things for other sports that arent football... I wish they would just separate the football conferences from the other sports. Like, it's idiotic for football as it is, but it doesnt need to fuck up every sport - especially when it's fully healthy to have the conferences as they are to begin with.

There's no good reason why womens water polo teams should need to travel across multiple time zones in the middle of classes just so rich athletic directors can get a bonus and so the NCAA can exploit the fuck out of their labour.

NIL deals are rolling pretty hard for most sports, definitely not as exploity as it used to be. I agree its fucked, but money talks.

eheathNIL deals are rolling pretty hard for most sports, definitely not as exploity as it used to be. I agree its fucked, but money talks.

NIL only goes so far...

PacificRimJobThis totally fucks things for other sports that arent football... I wish they would just separate the football conferences from the other sports. Like, it's idiotic for football as it is, but it doesnt need to fuck up every sport - especially when it's fully healthy to have the conferences as they are to begin with.

There's no good reason why womens water polo teams should need to travel across multiple time zones in the middle of classes just so rich athletic directors can get a bonus and so the NCAA can exploit the fuck out of their labour.

The reality is nobody gives a fuck about the water polo team Or the underwater basket weaving team etc.

they make dick for the schools profits wise.

if it ain’t football, basketball or baseball no body gives a flying fuck.

not saying I agree. Just the sad truth.

if you’re in the north you can throw hockey in the mix if you’re talking about a handful of schools.

unpopular opinion, but college sports shouldn't be a thing.

PartyBullshiitThe reality is nobody gives a fuck about the water polo team Or the underwater basket weaving team etc.

they make dick for the schools profits wise.

if it ain’t football, basketball or baseball no body gives a flying fuck.

not saying I agree. Just the sad truth.

if you’re in the north you can throw hockey in the mix if you’re talking about a handful of schools.

It's not about which sport makes the most money dude, these are amateur athletes... We aren't comparing NFL to NHL to the Spanish La Liga 2nd Division here...

Of course football and basketball make the most money for the AD's, but that doesnt mean the other sports, or even football in my eyes, should have to suffer by being made to do extremely heavy travel circuits simply because fucksticks couldnt figure out a football TV deal without any of the other athletes input - much less the individual schools...

and if you think this is going to impact just a few sports nobody watches, get this... Just the 4 California schools from the Pac 12 alone have created over 1000 team USA olympic athletes - not to mention probably a few hundred athletes who represent other countries as well. A lot of these other schools simply don't have the same level of infrastructure for olympic sports that these institutions have.

Just those four schools account for each one of the top four spots in manufacturing Olympic athletes... the next two tied on the list at #5 are Michigan and Texas and they have manufactured only as many athletes as USC has manufactured gold medalists. Combine both UM and UT, and theyre still barely only #2 on the list in total athletes.

Berkeley alone is in #4 and it's created more US olympic athletes than Yale and Harvard combined - which is astounding seeing as the early days of the USA olympic teams were completely dominated by Ivy League athletes. Georgia won the football championship last year, but Berkley has 51 more GOLD MEDALISTS than Georgia has sent athletes to the games.

The olympics might not seem on the surface to be as big as college football, but the amount of eyes watching the olympic games, even in 2021 when it was hosted without spectators drew 3 BILLION spectators. The national championship game barely hits 20-25 million, and you'd have to go back over a decade and add up all the games in all of the power 5 just to get close to what the Olympics gets in 2 weeks every four years.

TL;DR - This has potentially serious consequences for the olympic team...

Not sure why the Big Ten didn't just take all four last year.

Its going to suck being a fan of any of those schools when your stadium gets invaded by fat Trumpers from Nebraska dying for an excuse to leave the state. Fans of those schools are going to HATE IT.

Cal and Stanford are poor programs they are like Boston College just there is two of them in a market that gives zero fucks about college sports. Washington State and Oregon State could end up big winners in the Mountain West they go well with Boise and SD State. The league could end up equal with the Big 12 and ACC.

PeppermillRenoNot sure why the Big Ten didn't just take all four last year.

Its going to suck being a fan of any of those schools when your stadium gets invaded by fat Trumpers from Nebraska dying for an excuse to leave the state. Fans of those schools are going to HATE IT.

Cal and Stanford are poor programs they are like Boston College just there is two of them in a market that gives zero fucks about college sports. Washington State and Oregon State could end up big winners in the Mountain West they go well with Boise and SD State. The league could end up equal with the Big 12 and ACC.

chuds still think seattle is an active warzone so i think we’re safe at UW

PeppermillRenoWashington State and Oregon State could end up big winners in the Mountain West they go well with Boise and SD State. The league could end up equal with the Big 12 and ACC.

lol ACC is fucked too their deal is so bad. I dont think there is any world where the new pac 12 and/or mountain west is competitive with the bigger conferences.

PeppermillRenoIts going to suck being a fan of any of those schools when your stadium gets invaded by fat Trumpers from Nebraska dying for an excuse to leave the state. Fans of those schools are going to HATE IT.

I still find it weird when flag waving trumpy people even tangentially support something that has to do with tertiary education.

Ive seen SEC and Big10 schools play in northern California and Oregon a bunch of times... There are lots of trumpy types who might be fans of these schools' football teams, but theyre no more likely than those states' liberals to actually be the ones who go and get a university education. Gotta remember, most of these college towns even in the south are far more liberal than the rest of the region around them... and even Alabama and Mississippi only have 15 percentage point splits between GOP and Democrat votes.

The fans that travel out aren't usually the trumpy dingdongs, and even if they were, they're so scared of antifa and their kids getting contact-gay if they encounter a California drag queen that they stay home. The ones who travel out west are often the more socially liberal folks from those states and those schools.

Part of me thinks those tertiary sports inevitably get cut to funnel maximum money into football as this is all about trying to stick it to the SEC. But what you mention about Olympic sports is true, and a cross country flight is logistically not any worse than a big school having to travel to some obscure location such as the UP, etc. I’m sure there’s no shortage of logistically nightmarish college towns out there.

I could write 1,000 things but all that matters is time will tell, we don’t know anything. Big 10 hockey conference has been a disaster they’ve only been able to come up with 7 original members out of what now like—18 schools? I don’t see them waiving the requirement of all member schools participating in B1G conference in every sport. Heard they’re building some sports campus in Indiana where they’ll just house athletes and host all those smaller sports matchups. Idk, there will be players who are into that, and players who absolutely are not. Like someone said earlier, this could be a boon for teams like Oregon State and many others just as the hockey realignment did because it actually raised the tide of other programs left behind.

NIL removed red tape, but I hate what it’s doing. A scholarship, tuition and board, that’s gotta average like $70k/year these days pretty easily. That’s not really much less than minor leagues or juniors. Tired of all the egos out there thinking they’re god’s gift to man and deserve way comparing themselves to modern day slaves. I’m not a fan of cancelling student debt but idk how people don’t think it’s f’d up so many in this country dream of not being crushed in loan debt, then these athletes scoff at their scholarships. Sucks that graduation is the exception, not expectation.

Heard EA is trying to make a NCAA football game post NIL. Each player would get like $50. Of course lots of holdouts guys expecting 6 figures. I wish they’d just make the game with NIL of guys who took the $, and just made NPC characters for the holdouts. You know tons of those guys won’t be pro for maybe 2 years, then let them be reminded for rest of life how greedy they were when they aren’t even in the video game alongside teammates

PacificRimJobIt's not about which sport makes the most money dude, these are amateur athletes... We aren't comparing NFL to NHL to the Spanish La Liga 2nd Division here...

Of course football and basketball make the most money for the AD's, but that doesnt mean the other sports, or even football in my eyes, should have to suffer by being made to do extremely heavy travel circuits simply because fucksticks couldnt figure out a football TV deal without any of the other athletes input - much less the individual schools...

and if you think this is going to impact just a few sports nobody watches, get this... Just the 4 California schools from the Pac 12 alone have created over 1000 team USA olympic athletes - not to mention probably a few hundred athletes who represent other countries as well. A lot of these other schools simply don't have the same level of infrastructure for olympic sports that these institutions have.

Just those four schools account for each one of the top four spots in manufacturing Olympic athletes... the next two tied on the list at #5 are Michigan and Texas and they have manufactured only as many athletes as USC has manufactured gold medalists. Combine both UM and UT, and theyre still barely only #2 on the list in total athletes.

Berkeley alone is in #4 and it's created more US olympic athletes than Yale and Harvard combined - which is astounding seeing as the early days of the USA olympic teams were completely dominated by Ivy League athletes. Georgia won the football championship last year, but Berkley has 51 more GOLD MEDALISTS than Georgia has sent athletes to the games.

The olympics might not seem on the surface to be as big as college football, but the amount of eyes watching the olympic games, even in 2021 when it was hosted without spectators drew 3 BILLION spectators. The national championship game barely hits 20-25 million, and you'd have to go back over a decade and add up all the games in all of the power 5 just to get close to what the Olympics gets in 2 weeks every four years.

TL;DR - This has potentially serious consequences for the olympic team...