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supremeblienteledude if you could just articulate ur thoughts like u just did, instead of making autistic posts of u cross dressing on IG to get ur point across, you would influence people so much more effectively. Trans people regardless of how you feel about them still deserve ur respect, just like any other human being....
i agree with a lot of what u just said, but the way you go about it sometimes is in such bad taste.
take care man
watching opening segment from Eye Trip right now, trying hard to separate art from artist.
eheathi have stayed out of anything involving you ahmet, you could at least do the same for me. all ive done in this thread is call out trolls for being trolls.
what youre talking about exists on NS but it has nothing to do with me, there are cliques that go around up voting/down voting for sure, there are a group of 5-10 people who downvote me constantly for example.
I dont have a cult like following on here, i still get shit on and constantly called out by idiots, please refrain from bringing me into something that has nothing to do with me, thank you.
**This post was edited on Apr 12th 2023 at 6:23:21pm
You're right E Heath, and I'm sorry I called you out directly like that. The reason I did so is I constantly see your name on these threads and always seem to be calling the people that appear to be agreeing with my perspective out for being "bigots" or idiots or trolls. Some of them do, of course, post things to get a response out of their opponents here, and thats because its too easy to hit the trigger button and see their implosions of key word name calling. Again, I'm sorry to call you out directly.
For those saying that trans people "deserve my respect", again, you are putting individual people into groups as if they are all the same. This is such a horrible way to divide people and unfortunately this woke movement has divided Americans into more groups than ever before. Divide and Conquer. As for my respect, Men who join, then dominate womens sports do not deserve any respect. They should be embarrassed of themselves. Again, i want to remind you guys, I am not transphobic despite your conclusions. I'm against the insanity this has been taken to when doctors can mutilate childrens bodies, and feed them pills that fuck with some of the most important developemental processes a human being goes through. I'm against the teachers preaching their ideology in schools to their students, social media , and ad campaigns targeting young children to this delusion. Yes, it is a delusion. I'm against Parents that declare their kid to be trans before they can even read a book. IT's CHILD ABUSE, plain and simple.
There has always been some people that feel they are born into the wrong body throughout all of time, but nowhere near the amount we are seeing today, Its not coincidence that its growing, when it becomes popularized and rewarded. There are even places in california that are trying to give trans people monthly incomes!! There are men going to womens prisons, Men changing in womens locker rooms with young girls She dick out and everything, even Men breaking womens records in sports and all they have to do is tuck their dick and balls, put some make up on, and identify as a woman. Those ones do not deserve an ounce of respect from me. Maybe ya'll should take some time and actually ponder that before you answer back to defend this craziness.
LafamYou're right E Heath, and I'm sorry I called you out directly like that. The reason I did so is I constantly see your name on these threads and always seem to be calling the people that appear to be agreeing with my perspective out for being "bigots" or idiots or trolls. Some of them do, of course, post things to get a response out of their opponents here, and thats because its too easy to hit the trigger button and see their implosions of key word name calling. Again, I'm sorry to call you out directly.
For those saying that trans people "deserve my respect", again, you are putting individual people into groups as if they are all the same. This is such a horrible way to divide people and unfortunately this woke movement has divided Americans into more groups than ever before. Divide and Conquer. As for my respect, Men who join, then dominate womens sports do not deserve any respect. They should be embarrassed of themselves. Again, i want to remind you guys, I am not transphobic despite your conclusions. I'm against the insanity this has been taken to when doctors can mutilate childrens bodies, and feed them pills that fuck with some of the most important developemental processes a human being goes through. I'm against the teachers preaching their ideology in schools to their students, social media , and ad campaigns targeting young children to this delusion. Yes, it is a delusion. I'm against Parents that declare their kid to be trans before they can even read a book. IT's CHILD ABUSE, plain and simple.
There has always been some people that feel they are born into the wrong body throughout all of time, but nowhere near the amount we are seeing today, Its not coincidence that its growing, when it becomes popularized and rewarded. There are even places in california that are trying to give trans people monthly incomes!! There are men going to womens prisons, Men changing in womens locker rooms with young girls She dick out and everything, even Men breaking womens records in sports and all they have to do is tuck their dick and balls, put some make up on, and identify as a woman. Those ones do not deserve an ounce of respect from me. Maybe ya'll should take some time and actually ponder that before you answer back to defend this craziness.
as the old saying goes, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind....
interpreting trans women in biological females sports as disrespectful towards biological women is completely valid tho in my opinion. i just think if u want to get people to listen to your argument (which i think is completely valid) making a mockery of a seriously complex and sad issue is not the way to go.....again thats just me, you do u, im just trying to make you understand how some people who share different beliefs than us might view you as a hateful person because of how you choose to go about expressing your beliefs, when in reality, you are not (atleast i dont think so), dont want people to get the wrong idea about you as a person, and write you off as "alt right" or whatever bs they wanna use to smear ur name.
i dont think ur an evil person for disagreeing with me on this.... these are just really fucking weird times we are in, and its gonna take people of all different kinds of background and beliefs to make things work. if thats "woke" than so be it. i think people throw "woke" around the same way people throw "alt right" around, to completely dismiss somebodies beliefs and label them as invalid..... thats just my way of looking at it.
would love to talk more about this in PM's, shoot me a message if u feel like it. I have a lot of respect for u as a person, regardless of the way ur talked about rn. takes balls to do this kind of shit, even if i feel like it may be distasteful. dude is speaking his mind
all seriousness aside, what are the odds ahmet got a little too tipsy, the beer goggles took effect, and an Indonesian they/them got taken back to the crib for some backshots, man woke up next morning, realized what happened, and this is the causation of all this IG degeneracy
Lazy fuckin kids these days - expect the world, but can't put in the work for anything. Same attitude pervades the woke movement. We are entitled to having our every desire met, but don't want to have to exercise our minds or bodies to recieve recognition. Equivalent of "I'm not fat, you're fat phobic"
JAHSHUALazy fuckin kids these days - expect the world, but can't put in the work for anything. Same attitude pervades the woke movement. We are entitled to having our every desire met, but don't want to have to exercise our minds or bodies to recieve recognition. Equivalent of "I'm not fat, you're fat phobic"
Right on the money. That's what I look like with the exception of the missing depends diaper.
Everyone is eager to attack me. So far though none of you have said anything of rational significance that is well argued. Rather it just emotional attacks "you're a bigot" "you're old" etc. That's no way to argue regarding an idea that is worth debating. I'm not here in anger. I'm not here to start a fight. I'm here to share what I've extensively have already thought about and would respect you much more if you could actually counter what I write effectively. But all of you so far have been extremely helpful in demonstrating my point that the gender fluidity ideology is filled with people who are incapable of critical thought yet expect everyone to take on their viewpoint wholeheartedly. Why would I ever take this movement seriously if its believers can't effectively debate, don't want to give this topic considerable thought, and are too lazy to read my words or write anything significant. To summarize everything I've written in this thread: don't expect the world to cater to your worldview or beliefs if you cannot argue it well. Lacking a strong argument or solid structure is symptomatic of an idea that is farcical and weak.
JAHSHUARight on the money. That's what I look like with the exception of the missing depends diaper.
Everyone is eager to attack me. So far though none of you have said anything of rational significance that is well argued. Rather it just emotional attacks "you're a bigot" "you're old" etc. That's no way to argue regarding an idea that is worth debating. I'm not here in anger. I'm not here to start a fight. I'm here to share what I've extensively have already thought about and would respect you much more if you could actually counter what I write effectively. But all of you so far have been extremely helpful in demonstrating my point that the gender fluidity ideology is filled with people who are incapable of critical thought yet expect everyone to take on their viewpoint wholeheartedly. Why would I ever take this movement seriously if its believers can't effectively debate, don't want to give this topic considerable thought, and are too lazy to read my words or write anything significant. To summarize everything I've written in this thread: don't expect the world to cater to your worldview or beliefs if you cannot argue it well. Lacking a strong argument or solid structure is symptomatic of an idea that is farcical and weak.
You've said some of the dumbest shit in this thread maybe you should use some critical thinking and ask yourself why nobody wants to respect or argue with you
LafamYou're right E Heath, and I'm sorry I called you out directly like that. The reason I did so is I constantly see your name on these threads and always seem to be calling the people that appear to be agreeing with my perspective out for being "bigots" or idiots or trolls. Some of them do, of course, post things to get a response out of their opponents here, and thats because its too easy to hit the trigger button and see their implosions of key word name calling. Again, I'm sorry to call you out directly.
You're good ahmet, I'm definitely harsh on opinions I don't agree with and in the end, I'm mostly just trying to fuck with these trolls that cause problems outside of anything to do with you, I'm sorry that came off as an attack on you.
We can disagree on something and still respect one another, I try to stay out of most of this shit cause of what you said, lots of people will get on here and post shit to trigger people, it's not a very productive way to communicate.
I intended to keep this private, but ahmet doesn't want to discuss the happening , so here it is .
He got dumped by pro snowboarder Melissa ritano because he got caught hanging out with a chick known as Michelle, who was secretly a transvestite. One kid knew Mike from back in the day and we all told ahmet what the deal was, but he refused to believe it. Eventually Melissa found out, and so did ahmet... That's why he hates transgender athletes that are better than him. He did go schizo living in a van with an AK-47, and eventually admitted to himself haf sold out and was washed up from skiing completely.
Living rent free with yo mama paying the bills in your 30's as a grown man , surfing your days away, ranting online about your warped perspectives, while you agreed with babysnatching for profit. Crazy.
thankagaperI intended to keep this private, but ahmet doesn't want to discuss the happening , so here it is .
He got dumped by pro snowboarder Melissa ritano because he got caught hanging out with a chick known as Michelle, who was secretly a transvestite. One kid knew Mike from back in the day and we all told ahmet what the deal was, but he refused to believe it. Eventually Melissa found out, and so did ahmet... That's why he hates transgender athletes that are better than him. He did go schizo living in a van with an AK-47, and eventually admitted to himself haf sold out and was washed up from skiing completely.
Living rent free with yo mama paying the bills in your 30's as a grown man , surfing your days away, ranting online about your warped perspectives, while you agreed with babysnatching for profit. Crazy.
Lafamsaving this thread for later times. in skateboarding I saw a 13 year old girl get beat by a 29 year old male who identifies as a woman. He took home the womens division prize of 500 bucks. He stole that from the fingers of a little girl just because of his delusion that he is a female. He is not, from his DNA, to his organs, to his testosterone, all the way to the bones, he is not a woman. He is a man, its only in his dreams, fantasies, and delusional mind that he is a woman, and you idiots play the game of enhancing this delusion, while at the same time condemning objective truths. Same thing happening in Track, Swimming, Surfing (WSL), basketball, volleyball, every spots, so i cant wait to see how ya'll idiots react when a man becomes the face of womens Freeskiing. I dont give a fuck if I'm offensive to your petty feelings.
We have gone through 3 years of you same idiots talking your bullshit of "Trust the Science" when it comes to injecting yourself with vaccines (which turn out not to work to stop transmission, and can be very dangerous as well) Now you cant even stick by basic Biology. Ya'll jump from one band wagon after another, as you are persuaded into thinking exactly what you are supposed to, in order to keep supplying this system with the bullshit that fuels the wagon. Think for one second will you? This trans Ideology is HUGE money. These innocent kids are being tricked into believing that they are not good enough as they are and will either need hormone blocking pills, or surgeries to chop up their bodies in order to be happy and not "kill themselves". They are being given prescriptions for drugs that will fuck with their whole, natural, hormonal balance that they will need to take their whole lives in order to live that delusion. A life long customer! OR get their breasts/penises chopped off, rendering them walking a mountain top battle to ever reverse the decision they had been influenced into making. This choice, especially at such a young age, is an absolutely life altering decision and it has been done around the US with less consideration than a grown woman getting a boob job. How much money do they make off these disgusting mutilations? 10-50K a pop. Hmmmmm... hmmm sounds great for the ones providing it. Dont forget, we live in a world where making money is the name of the game, and to make money we will bomb countries into the stone age, you think kids matter to these people?
I'm sick of this nonsense, call me transphobe, call me a bigot, say im suffering from CTE. Doesnt matter, I live by principles. I dont hate the kids that are tricked into this ideology, I do hate the sick fucks that are promoting it, I hate the school teachers that teach it to young impressionable children, I hate the university "professors" that are spreading this rhetoric to gullible idiots like ya'll, and I really hate the fact that ya'll can argue like idiots for 3 pages and still make absolutely no sense in your ambition to seem inclusive. This is child abuse, its child mutilation, its a form of pedophilia as these sick fucks are obsessed with the sexuality of children, and its abhorrent that this is even in question.
Now here's what ya'll been waiting for, A response from me that you can downvote before considering and continue to talk your shit. I just want you to read this one more time, You actually think a man can be a woman and compete against women, just because he identifies as one! think about that for a second, then consider who you call crazy.
i have. you refuse to have a conversation about it lmfao. "stopped reading after patriarchy" headass.
ive made valid criticisms about how our world/society is set up to function, and how that system oppresses lgbtq (see trans) and non white, working class ppl. this entire thread is people trying to defend their bigotry behind a thinly veiled argument about sports. talking about outliers and anecdotal evidence.
JAHSHUASay something significant. Mockery isn't an argument.
fucintighti have. you refuse to have a conversation about it lmfao. "stopped reading after patriarchy" headass.
ive made valid criticisms about how our world/society is set up to function, and how that system oppresses lgbtq (see trans) and non white, working class ppl. this entire thread is people trying to defend their bigotry behind a thinly veiled argument about sports. talking about outliers and anecdotal evidence.
You're braindead. This traswomen athletes in sports nonsense only exists in predominantly white, hyper successful nations. You're so caught up in america bad mode you completely neglect tht this shit would never fly in china, india, mexico, uae, nigeria, etc that have far more socially conservative values.
People like you who simp for males competing in female sports because they feel some sort of way is why everyone from the head of the CCP to the poorest villagers in sub Saharan africa mock us.
**This post was edited on Apr 14th 2023 at 12:16:46am
fucintighti have. you refuse to have a conversation about it lmfao. "stopped reading after patriarchy" headass.
ive made valid criticisms about how our world/society is set up to function, and how that system oppresses lgbtq (see trans) and non white, working class ppl. this entire thread is people trying to defend their bigotry behind a thinly veiled argument about sports. talking about outliers and anecdotal evidence.
homie took a sociology class at his local community college and thinks he's some kind of white messiah lmao
doesnt take a genius to have the common sense that biological men are physically stronger than biological women, and therefore, should be competing in spaces designed to allow a level playing field.
dont care what ur .gov propaganda paper says. its not fair to have someone who is biologically designed to carry more muscle mass competing with people who are not. especially in physically demanding contact sports
you would huff ur own farts if a .gov study told u to
**This post was edited on Apr 14th 2023 at 2:26:19am
"Conclusion"
"Currently, there is no direct or consistent research suggesting transgender female individuals (or male individuals) have an athletic advantage at any stage of their transition (e.g. cross-sex hormones, gender-confirming surgery) and, therefore, competitive sport policies that place restrictions on transgender people need to be considered and potentially revised."
One of my favorite things about strava is seeing how consistently I land in the middle of the all-time men's times, then switching it to all time women's recorss and seeing I'd be top 5% at least, and in some segments I'd be #1 lmao
supremeblientele"Conclusion"
"Currently, there is no direct or consistent research suggesting transgender female individuals (or male individuals) have an athletic advantage at any stage of their transition (e.g. cross-sex hormones, gender-confirming surgery) and, therefore, competitive sport policies that place restrictions on transgender people need to be considered and potentially revised."
men on average have longer Achilles tendons, thicker tendons, denser bones, larger hearts, more lung capacity, larger muscles, and a higher angle of entry for the femur into the acetabulum. All of those things are advantageous in competitive sports.
This whole thing is a lot more complicated than you guys are making it seem. on average men have more lung capacity, stronger bones, etc. But it varies a ton person to person as well. Sports were never supposed to be fair. People with advantages are the people who win. And while there is a difference between a trans woman and a man born with some advantages, I just think there are better ways to segregate sports than gender.
EggMannThis whole thing is a lot more complicated than you guys are making it seem. on average men have more lung capacity, stronger bones, etc. But it varies a ton person to person as well. Sports were never supposed to be fair. People with advantages are the people who win. And while there is a difference between a trans woman and a man born with some advantages, I just think there are better ways to segregate sports than gender.
"I realize that there are substantial scientifically proven differences between men and women outside of hormone levels but here's my stupid ass uninformed opinion anyway!"
EggMannThis whole thing is a lot more complicated than you guys are making it seem. on average men have more lung capacity, stronger bones, etc. But it varies a ton person to person as well. Sports were never supposed to be fair. People with advantages are the people who win. And while there is a difference between a trans woman and a man born with some advantages, I just think there are better ways to segregate sports than gender.
Cool. So just have one class where everyone competes and boom, women will never podium again. Easy.
Or, be sane and recognize that it makes the most sense for males to compete with males, and females with females regardless if you want to dye your hair blue or cut your bits off.
ASSholebomber22Cool. So just have one class where everyone competes and boom, women will never podium again. Easy.
Or, be sane and recognize that it makes the most sense for males to compete with males, and females with females regardless if you want to dye your hair blue or cut your bits off.
I mean obviously not one giant class. That would be dumb. I think sports should be classed by skill, and while that is related to gender it’s obviously not the only factor.
**This post was edited on Apr 14th 2023 at 10:58:34am
EggMannI mean obviously not one giant class. That would be dumb. I think sports should be classed by skill, and while that is related to gender it’s obviously not the only factor.
**This post was edited on Apr 14th 2023 at 10:58:34am
Sports are classed by skill retard. The issue is never women wanting to compete in mens classes because they are able but cannot.
EggMannI mean obviously not one giant class. That would be dumb. I think sports should be classed by skill, and while that is related to gender it’s obviously not the only factor.
**This post was edited on Apr 14th 2023 at 10:58:34am
Craw_Daddymen on average have longer Achilles tendons, thicker tendons, denser bones, larger hearts, more lung capacity, larger muscles, and a higher angle of entry for the femur into the acetabulum. All of those things are advantageous in competitive sports.
i agree with u man, that quote i posted is from the .gov "study" the egg dude posted
