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PacificRimJobDo you really think people are chopping off their dingalings for the sole reason of winning at women's amateur sports?
No one, anywhere, at all, is making that argument.
Let's assume they are transitioning because they feel trapped in the wrong body. Does it matter? And why does it have to be "across the board"? I don't even follow this issue and off the top of my head I know it is happening in swimming, running, wrestling, road bike racing, mountain biking, MMA, bjj, golf, thai boxing, tennis and track and field and weightlifting. There are tons of others.
skiermanIt doesn't matter what they think because they still have an advantage.
Talking about advantages, what about athletes who come from privileged backgrounds and are able to get the best coaching and training?
Better diets to develop their bodies better, better mental healthcare to learn how to manage the stresses of being a student-athlete, better trainers to keep them from becoming injured...
- and despite being less talented than other athletes, may get better exposure, scouting attention, and may even be able to take a more political ascension through the ranks - leaving more talented athletes behind simply because they didn't get the pampering necessary?
I saw this all the time when I was growing up. Where do we draw the line on what 'advantages' we find acceptable, whether physiological or psychological?
If having a competitive advantage is bad, then we have to look at that from every angle - and if we are going to do that then do we administer some level of sports communism and police how much coaching or training people can do? Are we going to check each athlete's junk out every match? lol.
Either way, I dare this Ahmet guy to cut off their dick so they can get humiliated by some of the female athletes out there...
PacificRimJobTalking about advantages, what about athletes who come from privileged backgrounds and are able to get the best coaching and training?
Better diets to develop their bodies better, better mental healthcare to learn how to manage the stresses of being a student-athlete, better trainers to keep them from becoming injured...
- and despite being less talented than other athletes, may get better exposure, scouting attention, and may even be able to take a more political ascension through the ranks - leaving more talented athletes behind simply because they didn't get the pampering necessary?
I saw this all the time when I was growing up. Where do we draw the line on what 'advantages' we find acceptable, whether physiological or psychological?
If having a competitive advantage is bad, then we have to look at that from every angle - and if we are going to do that then do we administer some level of sports communism and police how much coaching or training people can do? Are we going to check each athlete's junk out every match? lol.
Either way, I dare this Ahmet guy to cut off their dick so they can get humiliated by some of the female athletes out there...
Oh shut the FUCK up with that privilege shit lmao
Competitive sports privilege like being born with a dong maybe. The BEST female soccer teams on the planet get bodied by highschool boy teams. This ain't a 'grew up in the pj's vs the hamptons' argument.
PacificRimJobTalking about advantages, what about athletes who come from privileged backgrounds and are able to get the best coaching and training?
Yeah bro, if women were just wealthier, worked out harder and ate better, they would overcome the biological advantages of men. You're right, its women's fault they're being beat by biological men pretending to be women.
skiermanYou're right, its women's fault they're being beat by biological men pretending to be women.
There are lots of people who are taller than me. That's a physical competitive advantage aNd iTs sOoO uNfAiR... Tall people shouldn't be allowed to play in the same group as others. They need to be in their own group...
PacificRimJobThere are lots of people who are taller than me. That's a physical competitive advantage aNd iTs sOoO uNfAiR... Tall people shouldn't be allowed to play in the same group as others. They need to be in their own group...
Now compare how many 5'10" dudes can dunk in highschool compared to 6ft+ women in the wbna
ASSholebomber22Now compare how many 5'10" dudes can dunk in highschool compared to 6ft+ women in the wbna
Dunno man. I don't watch high school basketball or the WNBA.
But these days the NBA is just launching 3 balls all the time anyway. I could imagine if a woman had crafted her shot well enough to hit 40% 3 balls all day someone would play her...
PacificRimJobThere are lots of people who are taller than me. That's a physical competitive advantage aNd iTs sOoO uNfAiR... Tall people shouldn't be allowed to play in the same group as others. They need to be in their own group...
Tell us more about how women are the problem because they're not putting in enough effort.
Leave it to a misogynist to care more about transwomen than biological women. Shame.
PacificRimJobDunno man. I don't watch high school basketball or the WNBA.
But these days the NBA is just launching 3 balls all the time anyway. I could imagine if a woman had crafted her shot well enough to hit 40% 3 balls all day someone would play her...
If anything, I’m sure discussing culture war bull shit like trans panic that the mainstream media is really pushing hard right now because it needs you to ignore the deteriorating infrastructure, the layoffs, the striking, the record profits, the wage stagnation, and the overall economic downturn that the average person is facing while the rich get richer, I’m sure that having that conversation on a website about skiing is really gonna settle it once and for all.
Why do libs care so much that biological males be allowed to compete in women's only leagues?? Trans women are still free to play the sport of their choosing in the open league aka the “men’s” league… I can’t think of any examples where the open league in a sport is only open to biologically male individuals. It’s not that way in football, it’s not that way in soccer, it’s not that way in hockey. Women just don’t compete in those leagues because they aren’t competitive in them and that is due to anatomical differences due to their sex. This isn’t rocket surgery, there are distinct biological differences between men and women, outside of testosterone levels, that give men a clear advantage in most competitive sports!
JAHSHUAHe has a point. There are severe issues haunting our society - these are real problems. Off the top of my head: the dissolution of marital structures due to warped cultural ideologies, extreme contempt directed at healthy, strong masculine figures in our society (toxic masculinity), an unchecked, narcissistic culture which is primarily focused upon the hedonism of the individual, which is having severe effects on both our natural resources and the collective conscious (seems as though more people are mentally ill / have personality disorders more than ever before).
What is our solution? To sit around, dye our purple, bitch on social media, attack strong, sensible leaders in our society, lop off our balls, and bitch about how no one recognizes our new gender identity that has no basis in biological reality. It is massive entitlement. It is massive narcissism. If we were plagued by war or famine, none of us would have the luxury to contemplate our gender or our hair color. This seems to be the core of younger liberalism and it is really fucking scary. Young liberals want an entirely new world, to burn down the patriarchy, and to eradicate our world as it is. Yet, they do not have the intelligence or the hardened life experience to show us a proper, better way forward. Really, the heart of this movement, is driven by contempt, purposelessness, misery, entitlement, and ideological possession. Said differently, young people are growing increasingly frustrated because they are unwilling to put in the hard work to grow into competent, respectable, skilled people that are useful to society, a society, which we very much need that shouldn't be ripped down. Because of this unwillingness to put in the work, young people are filled with disdain for the world, as though the world owes them something. Due to their upbringing, this generation has been raised to be entitled narcissists, told they were the greatest, tricked into thinking they were celebrities, brain-washed into thinking they were a gift to humanity. However, reality is always very sobering. And once this generation turned into adults, they realized all the smoke puffed up their ass did not give them any worth whatsoever.
Rather than creating their own worth, they'd rather create mayhem and demand that the world give them their worth and abide by their completely irrational ideals. People are busy. They do not care what gender you are. They do not care what your political beliefs are. Most people are too busy struggling through life to adopt senseless ideals espoused by clueless kids who have barely left their mommy's house. Sex is biologically based. Behavior is biologically based. This is observable in every other species existent on this planet. Our biological sense plays an immense role in defining our minds, bodies, impulses, thoughts, and actions. I am busy. I work hard. I am scared for the world. There are serious problems facing us. Therefore, I do not have the luxury to entertain ideals, beliefs, or demands espoused by a bunch of entitled, clueless, adult babies who have yet to create their value in the world through the tribulations and sufferings of life.
This may sound incredibly harsh. But I feel it needs to be said. This ideology that is permeating youth culture makes no fucking sense whatsoever and is incredibly narcissistic. Possessing such ideology does nothing for the greater good of humanity other than encouraging the freedom of expression, which I am all for. Born a man and have feminine impulse? Great. I don't care if your gay, straight, pansexual, identify as a dolphin, or whatever else. I will treat you with respect, like a human, and will aim to get along as best I can with you. However, the moment you attempt to instill your insane ideologies upon me, I will laugh at you in mockery. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But no one is entitled to foist their opinion upon on others through domination. The world will not change for you. Generally, after living long enough, you discover that you have to change for the world. Young people have always had it backwards. Luckily, the world will change for you if your idea is great enough, revolutionary enough. However, I don't think dying your hair purple, cutting off your balls, demanding everyone recognize you as a female, and throwing a tantrum over busy people not catering to your needs as trans non-cis, purple haired dolphin spirit he-woman is an ideal anyone with sense is willing to change the world over. Massive fucking entitlement in this generation.
**This post was edited on Apr 4th 2023 at 2:07:48pm
not readin dat - but based on the first sentence you're a joke
totally get where you're coming from on tryna push an agenda bc most are (including ahmet). the right wing are the ones who forced this into a culture war decision that everyone has to have a take on tho (still fuck neolibs)
i feel like most all of us agree that trans people are just people and tryna do their best w what they got, but now it's a question on whether or not they should be allowed to exist in society.
bustedpivotThis is so fake. It is possible for people to not care about women's sports at all and also not care if someone identifies as trans, but also not think biological men should be competing against women in competitive sports because they have a physical advantage.
Of course you know that, though; but you'd rather label people transphobic to ram your agenda through.
**This post was edited on Apr 10th 2023 at 4:03:44pm
lol str8 fax. mfs cant wrap their head around dialectical materialism
PacificRimJobTalking about advantages, what about athletes who come from privileged backgrounds and are able to get the best coaching and training?
Better diets to develop their bodies better, better mental healthcare to learn how to manage the stresses of being a student-athlete, better trainers to keep them from becoming injured...
- and despite being less talented than other athletes, may get better exposure, scouting attention, and may even be able to take a more political ascension through the ranks - leaving more talented athletes behind simply because they didn't get the pampering necessary?
I saw this all the time when I was growing up. Where do we draw the line on what 'advantages' we find acceptable, whether physiological or psychological?
If having a competitive advantage is bad, then we have to look at that from every angle - and if we are going to do that then do we administer some level of sports communism and police how much coaching or training people can do? Are we going to check each athlete's junk out every match? lol.
Either way, I dare this Ahmet guy to cut off their dick so they can get humiliated by some of the female athletes out there...
Craw_DaddyWhy do libs care so much that biological males be allowed to compete in women's only leagues?? Trans women are still free to play the sport of their choosing in the open league aka the “men’s” league… I can’t think of any examples where the open league in a sport is only open to biologically male individuals. It’s not that way in football, it’s not that way in soccer, it’s not that way in hockey. Women just don’t compete in those leagues because they aren’t competitive in them and that is due to anatomical differences due to their sex. This isn’t rocket surgery, there are distinct biological differences between men and women, outside of testosterone levels, that give men a clear advantage in most competitive sports!
Jemsnobody’s trying to read a 5 paragraph essay on a newschoolers thread
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strawman? rich coming from the dude spouting facist rhetoric about 'real men' being alpha type bullshit, concerning yourself with other ppls lives, and getting duped by msm talking points.
how about we talk about objective realities? like the overton window slide to the right since the 60's that's facilitated dangerous rhetoric against lgbtq ppl, women, and poc? how about the united states being founded upon the principles of slavery/white supremacy, individualism, privilege, and exploitation? how about the dismissal of climate change as reality based upon the collective societal worldview most all have under our economic system (late stage crony capitalism)? how about the united states govt subsidizing private companies (military/prison/ag industrial complexes), using our tax dollars, to help their friends?
nah, you aint makin an actual point. you just a troll. youre here to 'own the libs' or whatever
fucintightstrawman? rich coming from the dude spouting facist rhetoric about 'real men' being alpha type bullshit, concerning yourself with other ppls lives, and getting duped by msm talking points.
how about we talk about objective realities? like the overton window slide to the right since the 60's that's facilitated dangerous rhetoric against lgbtq ppl, women, and poc? how about the united states being founded upon the principles of slavery/white supremacy, individualism, privilege, and exploitation? how about the dismissal of climate change as reality based upon the collective societal worldview most all have under our economic system (late stage crony capitalism)? how about the united states govt subsidizing private companies (military/prison/ag industrial complexes), using our tax dollars, to help their friends?
nah, you aint makin an actual point. you just a troll. youre here to 'own the libs' or whatever
Nice batshit word salad bro. Keep them strawmans strong
Jemsi used to despise this view but honestly there’s nothing wrong with simply respecting what people want to be called….
I also used to hate hearing that till I understood what it meant. I respect what others want to be called and am all for expressing themselves, I try my best honestly because I care about how I treat others and their feelings.
My view is that gender is just a bullshit construct that simply labels people's personality traits. There is no gender, everyone is simply a person.
Jemsi used to despise this view but honestly there’s nothing wrong with simply respecting what people want to be called….
this is my feeling about this entire situation, why get so upset about what other people are doing? There is plenty of other dark, awful bullshit happening in our world you could get fired up about, but some 13 year old competed in some sporting event like every other 13 year old on the planet and you get a ton of people coming out of the woodwork, this thread is full of it right now.
We're all humans, trans people aren't any different and y'all going off about trans people in this thread might wanna reconsider what you're saying before you end up on the wrong side of history, slavery was considered a normal thing for a long time (non-white people are STILL treated like shit too) and right now it seems pretty fucking normal to ostracize trans people and treat them as lesser humans, open your eyes people.
dwt802I also used to hate hearing that till I understood what it meant. I respect what others want to be called and am all for expressing themselves, I try my best honestly because I care about how I treat others and their feelings.
My view is that gender is just a bullshit construct that simply labels people's personality traits. There is no gender, everyone is simply a person.
Modern society is a fucking construct genius. Currency is a construct. Math is a construct! Just because something is a “construct” doesn’t make it unimportant. Gender arose from the natural dichotomy between the two sexes as modern society evolved. To deny its existence or to attempt to obfuscate it to the point of irrelevance is like trying to refine what multiplication in math is. That is why people are upset about it. Gender is fundamental to the human experience not a “bullshit concept” as you believe.
Craw_DaddyModern society is a fucking construct genius. Currency is a construct. Math is a construct! Just because something is a “construct” doesn’t make it unimportant. Gender arose from the natural dichotomy between the two sexes as modern society evolved. To deny its existence or to attempt to obfuscate it to the point of irrelevance is like trying to refine what multiplication in math is. That is why people are upset about it. Gender is fundamental to the human experience not a “bullshit concept” as you believe.
you probably think marriage is for only 1 man and 1 woman too. go read the bible or something
eheathbro you didnt even try to deny that you're a bigot, jesus christ man
Wouldn't anything that I say be lost on you since you admitted in another thread that you don’t read what I write? Why would I take the time to argue with you then? That would be like arguing with a wall…
**This post was edited on Apr 11th 2023 at 3:52:11pm
Craw_DaddyWouldn't anything that I say be lost on you since you admitted in another thread that you don’t read what I write? Why would I take the time to argue with you then? That would be like arguing with a wall…
**This post was edited on Apr 11th 2023 at 3:52:11pm
You could say "no I think men can marry men and women can marry women" but we all know you'd be lying. im simply pointing out that you're a piece of shit.
SchizoSkierI don’t care/have any opinions on the argument but this is such a classic
sorta, except they stole it from a friend of mine who made it as a joke. its funny when he used it, craw doesn't have a creative bone in his body, he bites every joke he posts, same with @ASSholebomber22
eheathsorta, except they stole it from a friend of mine who made it as a joke. its funny when he used it, craw doesn't have a creative bone in his body, he bites every joke he posts, same with @ASSholebomber22
