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thankagaperOmg, try skiing the ski differently...!?
Take your high performance ski out for those am groomers, than switch to the buttersticks for slash turns and ollie's thru the bumps on your way to buttering up the park, in the afternoon.
Those skis will be so much fun, give it some time, sounds like you are already on your way to super slashes with that overdrive
muffMan.Give ‘em a few days, trust
TRVP_ANGELSell them and buy 189 wets
omgeeitslexiyea they’re decently fun but i mostly hit extremely steep lines n shit and idk they aren’t as stable as I thought they would be. Used to ski a k2 mindbender so yea.
aldercowI'm no expert but "buttersticks" doesn't sound all that stable
SchoessI honestly don't know if a week is long enough to make a full decision. There's a lot of factors at play here, and based on my own extensive experience riding that ski, as well as a lot of other people.... They are known to be a really stable ski. ON3P in general doesn't make super noodley skis. Where are you skiing (region or resort)? What have snow conditions been like? You skiing couloirs, cliffs, open faces, where are the issues you're experiencing?
When I switched to the j100, I personally felt the opposite. When mounted at recommended, it really hooked up for me and was confidence inspiring. I'm 6', 220-230 depending on when I hit the drive through last.
Most people are just trolling in this thread but I genuinely would like to understand your experience more
SchoessYeah you definitely don't need to lean super forward on them to make them hook up how you want to. I've never ridden the billygoats, but I believe the woodsman is stiffer than the Jeffery. And if you really wanna get rowdy, the Wrenegade is a crazy hard charging ski. They have them in a 102 and a 110.
omgeeitslexiyea cause i’m used to an extremely forward traditional style stance and the jeffrey mounted at recommended doesn’t really support that style. pretty hard for me to change up my style which sucks. i’m trying to really like the jeffrey, but it just doesn’t work for what i like to do. the wren seems nice but there isn’t a custom option for a 110. billy goat seems to be the next best option for a hard charging ski. will probably remount jeffrey for park tho.
omgeeitslexiyea cause i’m used to an extremely forward traditional style stance and the jeffrey mounted at recommended doesn’t really support that style. pretty hard for me to change up my style which sucks. i’m trying to really like the jeffrey, but it just doesn’t work for what i like to do. the wren seems nice but there isn’t a custom option for a 110. billy goat seems to be the next best option for a hard charging ski. will probably remount jeffrey for park tho.
omgeeitslexiyea been using them for the past week. they’re a blast on anything that isn’t really steep and i love them in the park but i don’t do much park. i mostly ski steeps and drop cliffs and they’re just a bit weird there. i would prefer my mindbenders there but those broke so yea. idk i might not sell them and js use them as a jibby ski and then get another mindbender for steeps and dropping cliffs.
Profahoben_212I would argue that you should avoid the bg and go more for a wrenegade or woodsman. It sounds like you want to drive the hell out of the skis while holding and powering the edge through crud, and that isn't really the BG's specialty. The BG IMO is more soft snow focused, and while they charge super hard through crud, they dont necessarily do it while powering a GS turn. They tend to want to slarve instead of carve. I just think you might benefit from a more traditional charger than the BG.
Why do you need them custom?
muffMan.I had atrises before my jeffereys and feel what you mean. Reading online the atris and mindbenders get some comparisons.But there is a sweet spot to find them especially if you aren’t use to forward mounted skis.
But hey they’re not for everyone, I ski anything and everything with the Jeff’s, but can see where someone wants something else
GrapeHunterlmfao all of this after fucking around with that "botched" shop mount 😂
omgeeitslexiig yea. shop mounted it forward too.
thankagaperSounds like on3p is the problem,
All the skis are gimmicky.
Call Fatypus, if you wanna charge hard.
SchizoSkierSkill issue for sure. My Jeffrey’s were center mounted and they still felt good
muffMan.I gotta get a pair, I rarely see them out besides on ski patrollers so theyre onto something
Dawg you were trashin them like 3 weeks ago
SchizoSkierThey felt good, they just didn’t match my style. I liked them in powder but for a dude who skis only park and likes his fast spins they weren’t it
SchizoSkierSkill issue for sure. My Jeffrey’s were center mounted and they still felt good
omgeeitslexii don’t really do gs turns. i much prefer slarving and slashing which is why i want to go the billy goats instead of a woodsman or wren because i don’t care too much about gs turns. going customs because their isn’t a 110 option that isn’t tour.
omgeeitslexii don’t really do gs turns. i much prefer slarving and slashing which is why i want to go the billy goats instead of a woodsman or wren because i don’t care too much about gs turns. going customs because their isn’t a 110 option that isn’t tour.
omgeeitslexiright and for me, i came from a mindbender and a very l forward traditional stance so the jeff’s don’t really work well for me
Non_State_ActorI'm not trying to give you a hard time at all but I'm confused on the slarving/slashing/pivoting style from a very forward technique stance. If you have your weight forward and low you should be driving the ski through the tips and finishing your turns not slashing. It might be a good idea to take a lesson either carving focused or freestyle focused to kind of separate the two techniques? I may just be talking out of my ass as I'm not a very technically sound skier.
ajbskiYou don’t always have to ski at mach 100 to have fun. For me, softer skis bring back the joy in skiing slowly but nicely.
if you’re a good enough skier you can handle chop with soft skis. It’s just not as enjoyable.
If they’re in as good condition as you say, I’d pay $750 - $900 for the kit.
omgeeitslexiso currently been skiing at vail and breck. in soft snow, the ski is amazing and i love it but i’m still not really used to the neutral centered stance. Been skiing cliffs, couloirs, chutes, and steeps. when the snow gets a choppier on really steep lines and a bit icy, it’s hard for me to keep an edge on the snow and I can’t drive my shovels as much. Mostly the main issue I have is that the suspension of the ski seems pretty bad and not as stable as i’m used to. i’m used to really driving the shovels and a much more forward stance than this is. honestly i might just remount closer to center and use it as a park ski and then pick up a billy goat 110 through customs or get another mindbender cause i really loved my mindbender 108.
mikemId spend the rest of the season on em to see if you like em, especially on spring days
I was like you. Enjoyed stiff skis for big lines and larger drops. Sold my dictators to buy Vishnu wides. And yes I ski all the same shit at Alta on the wides.
I also have prodigy’s which I’ll ski if we like mega sending stuff. But really you can ski any ski anywhere. I know the people on Jeffrey’s that land +40/50 feeters no problem.
They also do say the ski takes some learning.
freeballerWhat couloirs and chutes have you been skiing at Vail and Breck?
