Trump Indicted

LonelyMy complaint will always be with people, on either side, who will reference organizations and the data they gather, but quickly shift their opinion on whether or not that organization is credible in relation to their bias.

Example 1.

"Look at the CDC reporting on vaccine issues, clearly this vaccine is dangerous as proved in the CDC reports" followed by a statement like "Well, I don't trust the CDCs numbers on infections, those are just made up to push a narrative"

Example 2.

"Cops stop and frisk minorities more according to the justice department. That's really fucked up" followed by "Well the justice department must be lying about the low numbers of fatal cop interactions, probably some sort of cover-up or defense of the police state. all cops just want to kill. ACAB"

I could rattle off like 10 more of these for pretty much any group on the political spectrum

Data should always be taken with a grain of salt, but I feel like more and more people will write off any data that they disagree with, and also never do a deeper analysis of the data that confirms what they think. It is especially frustrating when some people say that an organization is the arbiter of truth when it comes to stuff that agrees with their worldview but are also somehow lying scumbags when the data goes the other way.

I think a lot of people like to say they are critical of the data but they really only are when it is in opposition to their worldview.

r00kieSo, do you guys drink your orange juice with or without the pulp?

r00kieSo, do you guys drink your orange juice with or without the pulp?

Granby_killdozerUm can you not read the numbers on the spreadsheet? It’s not a matter of “what I think” it’s an objective fact that they are…

unless you think that white people are allowed to get away with assault or something. Because if that is what you believe then you better have some damn good evidence to back that up. I guarantee you that I can’t just walk outside right now an punch someone in the face and get away with it.

r00kieSo, do you guys drink your orange juice with or without the pulp?

LonelyIf you want orange juice with pulp theres actually a thing for that. It's called a fucking orange. Pulp and juice both included.

Pulp juice drinkers and crunchy peanut butter enjoyers should have no place in society

LonelyIf you want orange juice with pulp theres actually a thing for that. It's called a fucking orange. Pulp and juice both included.

Pulp juice drinkers and crunchy peanut butter enjoyers should have no place in society

Turd__AuthorityYou probably could. Fuck, you got a 50/50 shot of getting away with murder in a city.

Granby_killdozerOnly if you’re black and the DA is a liberal BLM activist like in Chicago or LA :)

Turd__AuthorityYou think cops actually solve homicides lol? Only about 50% get solved

Granby_killdozerNa Ive had friends who were shot and killed. Friends get robbed and held hostage. I had shit stolen out of my locker when I was kid in school. I once had a dude pick me up by my throat and hold a burning cigarette 2 inches away from my eye. Wanna guess what the common denominator was in all of those incidents? I base my world view on way more than spreadsheets lol

AndrewGravesSVImma guess that the common denominator was being poor but it seems like you've got a different conclusion

AndrewGravesSVImma guess that the common denominator was being poor but it seems like you've got a different conclusion

EggMannExactly this. Crime is a symptom of poverty, not a cause.



but americans would rather live in a surveillance state than address systemic problems.

EggMannThey are imprisoned more because they are targeted more by bitch ass police, who overpolice black and brown neighborhoods and are 3x more likely to be convicted of the same crime as a white person.

EggMannyou really took that middle school thing personally lmao


Yeah, i dont trust the fbi because they are the ones systemically murdering people. So lets talk about the people that actually look into law enforcement practices and history. Unless you just want to believe the FBI because the government would never do anything wrong.



I want to live in the world you live in. Seems so fun and ignorant

SteezyYeeterthe fbi literally sends agents to 'extremist' catholic churches... how are they not on your side you fucking retard eggfuck penis cock

EggMannLol eggfuck

AndrewGravesSVImma guess that the common denominator was being poor but it seems like you've got a different conclusion

Granby_killdozerCrime is a symptom of fatherless households. Black guys don’t like to stick around and raise their kids unfortunately. That results in single mothers who are uneducated having to work shitty jobs and live off welfare. It’s all very sad until one of their shithead kids tries to rob you lol

ASSholebomber22Source?

AndrewGravesSVI'm not saying you're wrong but you're also using this to justify your racism. Everyone has their own biases based on their own experiences/knowledge that can help them stay safe. Its a problem when you extrapolate those biases to form a broad picture of a group. These are systemic issues with a ton of factors at play and at the end of the day we're all humans

Granby_killdozer“You’re using this to justify your racism” says the white guy who lives in the mountain west and knows 2 black people. Shut the fuck up man😂.

Granby_killdozer“You’re using this to justify your racism” says the white guy who lives in the mountain west and knows 2 black people. Shut the fuck up man😂.

AndrewGravesSV"I'm not racist, you don't know black people" is quite the defense lol

You're only a few steps away from the argument of black people being savages who belong working in the fields

AndrewGravesSVlmao you want me to provide a source for my guess?

Jemsi hope trump or biden suddenly die shit would be funny 💯💯

AndrewGravesSV"I'm not racist, you don't know black people" is quite the defense lol

You're only a few steps away from the argument of black people being savages who belong working in the fields

LonelyI'd be curious to hear crawdaddies opinion on the 14th and 15th amendments and their resulting outcomes

Granby_killdozerme: *acknowledges well known facts about certain demographics in defense of policing practices*

Idiots on Newschoolers: This man wants to reinstate slavery!!!!

I see you fools are out of logical arguments at this point so I guess my work is done.

Jemsi hope trump or biden suddenly die shit would be funny 💯💯

.MASSHOLE.I think both parties would hate Kamala being POTUS.

Jemsi hope trump or biden suddenly die shit would be funny 💯💯

VTshredder69I mean biden is practically dead. Lets be honest.

LonelyNeither the 14th nor the 15th amendment abolished slavery brother.

That would be the 13th.

Sort of a self report to jump right to the whole reinstating slavery thing there though.

Granby_killdozerLol you brought those amendments up in response so someone else bringing up slavery. Ya got me though ya little trickster!

LonelyWeird. Went and looked at the message. I didn't quote or respond to anyone. You don't have to make stuff up man.
It's alright if you dont know the difference between the amendments. There are like, a whole lot of them.

The amendments I brought up broadly are about citizenship, and voting. If I wanted to make a joke about you and the 13th, I would have said the 13th.

Granby_killdozerNo one cares bro. Go hough some more of your own farts

eheathwhy do you even try dude? just shut the fuck up already, you're the biggest pussy of us all because you can't admit when you're wrong, you keep saying the same bullshit and deflecting from the topic at hand. you do it every. fucking. time. you argue, its fucking pathetic dude.

get a fucking life man

Granby_killdozerme telling him "ya got me" was me admitting that I was wrong... you daft land whale. go cry and eat a cheeseburger about it. stupid fucking prick.

eheathclassic dumbass response, shallow insult with no conviction. go post your idiotic takes somewhere else, nobody wants you on NS.

Granby_killdozerClassic dumbass eheeth not addressing what I said and crying about me like the little baby back bitch he is. How are you gonna complain about me not admitting when I’m wrong right below a comment where I admit that I’m wrong??? How fuckin dumb are you?? Fuckin childish bro. I’m done with you.

ASSholebomber22I mean if you're gonna claim economic factors as the primary vector I'd like to see data supporting that, should be easy to show poverty vs homicide rates for all races being equal right?

AndrewGravesSVThis source has loads of data in it: https://okjusticereform.org/2021/12/how-poverty-drives-violent-crime/#:~:text=There%20appears%20to%20be%20a,cost%20ratio%20of%20committing%20crimes.

I honestly thought the link between the two would be a lot more concrete. My point isn't to argue about crime statistics but to underline that there are systemic and historical issues with the US that cause them to be skewed. There's context to these issues and its lazy to do a direct one to one of black people commit crime more so black people are violent.


Also it looks like Trump might be indicted again in the summer for pressuring Georgia officials about the election. Also interested in whether people think Trump being muzzled is good or bad for him

LonelyNeither the 14th nor the 15th amendment abolished slavery brother.

SteezyYeeterandrews said that he wanted black people working in the fields. read the thread dumbass

Granby_killdozer“You’re using this to justify your racism” says the white guy who lives in the mountain west and knows 2 black people. Shut the fuck up man😂.

ASSholebomber22I mean if you're gonna claim economic factors as the primary vector I'd like to see data supporting that, should be easy to show poverty vs homicide rates for all races being equal right?

ASSholebomber22I didn't ask for a persuasive essay from a biased source for a correlation between poverty and crime. I asked for statistics comparing violent crime by race of people who are already impoverished.

Your first thought may be to reply that black people are disproportionately impoverished. Obviously they are, I'm not arguing that. But that is not what I'm asking. Re-read what I wrote above again and let me know what you find.

Turd__AuthorityYou saying this is no different than someone saying "I understand racism because I have black friends". Me even making this comment is questionable. The point is this argument is stupid.


There's a billion articles on this. Google is hard I know right. But if you're so worried about peer reviewed articles being biased then go do a statistical analysis yourself. The data is publicly available- just needs analyzed.

ASSholebomber22You didn't read the article he posted or what I requested.