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Vish-shoeMainstream is one word
Jacob.millzWhich do you think makes more quality skis, and which one would you rather support?
hoodratz47I have a pair of j skis and on3ps. And they are some of the best I have ever owned. I used to be a long long rossi whore and they treated me really really well. I love Salomon boots but not thier skis.
I do like the idea of north american made skis a lot
Icant_kfedI have a pair of 3 or 4 year old Allplays that just lost their first chunk of edge, but people are saying that the newer pair don’t last as long
steez_apprenticeON3P need I say more
hegleezyI have never seen someone with cracked edges on their on3p’s
KilaTsunamiThat’s like… Who makes better cookies? Chips Ahoy, or SwitchLip’s Mom?
Newsheepersswitchlip's mom's cookies are bussin literally in my mouth
Newsheepersjust saw one on snow share and i've seen plenty with sections of edge missing
hegleezymy friends don’t ski hard enough then
hegleezyI have never seen someone with cracked edges on their on3p’s
tominiemenmaaIf the niche begins at ON3P, Jskis, 1000, Season, Liberty, Pusu, etc. small or smallish companies with focus on craftsmanship and/or some kind of niche within a niche like the all black of Season or all red of 1000, where does this section of the industry end?
Are Faction, Moment, or Movement for example small enough for this ballpark? This, of course, is an opinion based philosophical question with no right or wrong answers.
Jacob.millzI do not think faction is in the question, but I do think moment and movement are in the ballpark of smaller brands.
tominiemenmaaMoment is the biggest ski manufacturer in the states and Faction is the smallest of the big ones. This is just the thing I was after. Where's the line?
hegleezyI have never seen someone with cracked edges on their on3p’s
tominiemenmaaMoment is the biggest ski manufacturer in the states and Faction is the smallest of the big ones. This is just the thing I was after. Where's the line?
BradFiAusNzCoCaIt is the biggest in-house builder in the USA. Biggest of the small. They still build in-house and individually set their edges. They are relatively uncommon outside of the USA. Faction can literally be found everywhere across the globe. Faction’s market share is so much larger that it’s not even a comparison. Apples to oranges.
tominiemenmaaWhich companies are between the two? Like bigger than the biggest small ones, but smaller than the smallest big ones. Faction is big for sure, but still far from the big boy league. And they of course don't make their own skis.
BradFiAusNzCoCaYou see factions in almost every ski shop I’ve been to in the last 3 years across the globe??
I think you’re underestimating how huge faction is now.
tominiemenmaaWell I've seen Factions on the shelf like twice so must be some kind of bubble of mine 😁
BradFiAusNzCoCaTheyre legit EVERYWHERE in Finland. What bubble are you in, Tomi?? 😂
Jacob.millzWhich do you think makes more quality skis, and which one would you rather support?
hegleezyI have never seen someone with cracked edges on their on3p’s