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Help finding soft light park skis

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jayski13
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On ARV 96 right now, in 184cm I’m 6’4.
I want something more playful as the ARV’s are stiff. They hold up so well though and the 96mm under foot is comfortable on rails. Want something a little lighter also to spin of rails a little easier and swap quicker. Also going to get new K2 boots to hopefully help shinbang and give me some good feel so I can pedal better. So far I’ve considered the Vishnu Key, Surface Give’r, BDog 2023, Liberty Helix 88, or the J skis All Plays. Also on the east coast so more rails then jumps, but I am hoping to progress on to flips on these ARV 96s, so a little hold up would be nice.
Mar 2 2023 11:33AM
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tutipups
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did you not notice the other thread just like this made less than an hour ago?
Mar 2 2023 11:40AM
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Slowbro
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Keys would be a good choice they are noticeably lighter than the ARVs and considerably softer.
Mar 2 2023 11:52AM
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Jems
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you need a ski thats 188cm+
Mar 2 2023 11:52AM
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Farmville420
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If you’re considering Allplays then just get those tbh, I ride them rn they’re an incredible ski
Mar 2 2023 11:55AM
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muffMan.
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Jemsyou need a ski thats 188cm+


Dude that length is so hard to find. Only options are vishnu or like a 102 jefferey. Hope they make the Edollo again in 188
Mar 2 2023 11:55AM
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jayski13
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The only vishnus in stock are keys in 189cm and at plus 189cm so I might have to get them
SlowbroKeys would be a good choice they are noticeably lighter than the ARVs and considerably softer.


Jemsyou need a ski thats 188cm+
Mar 2 2023 11:56AM
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Jems
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muffMan.Dude that length is so hard to find. Only options are vishnu or like a 102 jefferey. Hope they make the Edollo again in 188


bros 6'4 riding 184s thats small as hell
Mar 2 2023 11:58AM
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PimpChimpin
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Probably the sego big horn, they make the whole mountain your playground
Mar 2 2023 12:01PM
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jayski13
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Jemsbros 6'4 riding 184s thats small as hell


damn i was kinda oblivious, im minimum 6’3 & a half inches tall and I don’t weight a ton either. 180lbs
Mar 2 2023 12:04PM
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Zurg
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Farmville420If you’re considering Allplays then just get those tbh, I ride them rn they’re an incredible ski


this
Mar 2 2023 12:15PM
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Farmville420
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Zurgthis


People on this site love to clown J’s but everyone I know in real life who rides em all agree they’re the best skis out rn. They have a super dope team too, idk why people don’t fuck with them
Mar 2 2023 12:31PM
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jayski13
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Farmville420If you’re considering Allplays then just get those tbh, I ride them rn they’re an incredible ski


Zurgthis


Farmville420People on this site love to clown J’s but everyone I know in real life who rides em all agree they’re the best skis out rn. They have a super dope team too, idk why people don’t fuck with them


gravedigger graphic is sick, only up to 184 though.
Mar 2 2023 12:33PM
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Farmville420
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jayski13gravedigger graphic is sick, only up to 184 though.


Yeah those are the ones I have, get a lot of compliments on that graphic lol, they’re dope.

Didnt realize you were Yao Ming tall goddamn, I’d go with the 189 Keys then
Mar 2 2023 12:45PM
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Ripline
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majesty vandals
Mar 2 2023 1:38PM
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jayski13
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Farmville420Yeah those are the ones I have, get a lot of compliments on that graphic lol, they’re dope.

Didnt realize you were Yao Ming tall goddamn, I’d go with the 189 Keys then


they sold out today though so it might be to j skis
Mar 2 2023 1:46PM
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Icant_kfed
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Jemsbros 6'4 riding 184s thats small as hell


I’m 6’3 riding 184s Allplays, the length isn’t an issue for park but for just riding hard all over the mountain i overpower them quite a bit
Mar 2 2023 2:19PM
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Jems
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Icant_kfedI’m 6’3 riding 184s Allplays, the length isn’t an issue for park but for just riding hard all over the mountain i overpower them quite a bit

184 is still short for 6'3, I mean im out here on 180s sitting at 5'6. Young troll skier named jeb is rocking 189 keys and is 5'7.
Mar 2 2023 2:36PM
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Farmville420
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jayski13they sold out today though so it might be to j skis


I ride 184s and I’m 6’0” and they’re a lil long, I like long tho so it’s not an issue. They just won’t be taller than you
Mar 2 2023 4:01PM
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jompcock
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Farmville420People on this site love to clown J’s but everyone I know in real life who rides em all agree they’re the best skis out rn. They have a super dope team too, idk why people don’t fuck with them


Cause they market their shit like it's a childrens cereal brand. Bright colors and cats.
Mar 2 2023 5:30PM
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Zurg
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Farmville420People on this site love to clown J’s but everyone I know in real life who rides em all agree they’re the best skis out rn. They have a super dope team too, idk why people don’t fuck with them


honestly its just their graphics. yeah they can be hit or miss, but graphics are just graphics. they dont make a ski great or not.
Mar 2 2023 5:31PM
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Str8Chedda
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Icelantic Nomad95’s are a pretty light, playful ski with longer options at 186,191. I rode the 191’s and I’m about 6’1 they were fun
Mar 3 2023 1:07AM
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jimbobs
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Jemsbros 6'4 riding 184s thats small as hell

I'm 6'6 on 184 Poachers. Ski companies just don't cater to us. Gotta do what you gotta do.


OP, my 6'3 buddy rides 184 Poachers (similar to your ARV's) and 189 Wet Plus. The Plus are way flexier, way lighter, and mad playful than the Poachers, without being noodles. They just don't charge/carve as hard, but your ARV's can handle those days. Highly suggest you check those 189 Plus out. Should be popping up on Level9's store very soon.

Also, ON3P skis measure true, so a 186 Mango 100 would be 4cm longer than your ARVs, which usually measure 2cm shorter than advertised. Could also go custom during the on3p summer sale and get some Soft-flex 191 Jeffereys. (which I'm considering ordering once my poachers are shot).
Icelantic makes the Nomad 95 in some longer lengths as well, worth a look.
Mar 3 2023 2:59AM
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Lenny-
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Farmville420People on this site love to clown J’s but everyone I know in real life who rides em all agree they’re the best skis out rn. They have a super dope team too, idk why people don’t fuck with them

They make the ugliest graphics in the industry and are kinda overpriced. I think I paid ~$550 for my Wides they want $750 for their equivalent.

To be fair the skis they make that I think are the ugliest pieces of shit on the market are often the ones they sell out of the fastest. So while they are making shit I hate to look at, it's obviously appealing to a lot of people.
Mar 3 2023 7:36AM
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Frenchmayo1287
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jayski13On ARV 96 right now, in 184cm I’m 6’4.
I want something more playful as the ARV’s are stiff. They hold up so well though and the 96mm under foot is comfortable on rails. Want something a little lighter also to spin off rails a little easier and swap quicker. Also going to get new K2 boots to hopefully help shinbang and give me some good feel so I can pedal better. So far I’ve considered the Vishnu Key, Surface Give’r, BDog 2023, Liberty Helix 88, or the J skis All Plays. Also on the east coast so more rails then jumps, but I am hoping to progress on to flips on these ARV 96s, so a little hold up would be nice.


Badgers if they didn’t blow up first run
Mar 3 2023 9:30AM
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Farmville420
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So while they are making shit I hate to look at, it's obviously appealing to a lot of people.[/quote]

Mar 3 2023 11:39AM
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bogust
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189 wets
Mar 3 2023 12:44PM
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Zurg
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LenntThey make the ugliest graphics in the industry and are kinda overpriced. I think I paid ~$550 for my Wides they want $750 for their equivalent.

To be fair the skis they make that I think are the ugliest pieces of shit on the market are often the ones they sell out of the fastest. So while they are making shit I hate to look at, it's obviously appealing to a lot of people.


No hate to on3p (I own a pair of Jeffery 108s and they are incredible) but $750 is a lot less than $1000-$1250 (depending on the customs you make) that on3p is asking for. VIshnu does have something good going for them with their price and the quality that comes with it.
Mar 3 2023 11:52PM
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Lenny-
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Farmville420So while they are making shit I hate to look at, it's obviously appealing to a lot of people.


Concrete isn't my favorite either. But it's $200 less than the J skis Vacations that would be their counterpart. While Im not a fan of the Concrete's I would still ski them and it wouldn't bother me. I wouldn't sit around a campfire and watch a pair of J skis burn because that would be too much looking at em.


You are basically skiing knockoff Dr. Seuss graphics and you paid extra to make it happen.
Mar 4 2023 2:48AM
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Farmville420
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LenntConcrete isn't my favorite either. But it's $200 less than the J skis Vacations that would be their counterpart. While Im not a fan of the Concrete's I would still ski them and it wouldn't bother me. I wouldn't sit around a campfire and watch a pair of J skis burn because that would be too much looking at em.


You are basically skiing knockoff Dr. Seuss graphics and you paid extra to make it happen.


Yeah those vacation graphics are fire in real life and in photos https://www.instagram.com/p/CpGfFHUuldL/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Mar 4 2023 8:06AM
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Lenny-
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Farmville420Yeah those vacation graphics are fire in real life and in photos https://www.instagram.com/p/CpGfFHUuldL/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=


I guess we are just gonna have to disagree on this one. Though I'm happy you found skis with graphics you really like.
Mar 4 2023 8:44AM
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muffMan.
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Farmville420Yeah those vacation graphics are fire in real life and in photos https://www.instagram.com/p/CpGfFHUuldL/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=


I mean same with concretes, saw a user post some when they got it and looked nice on snow
Mar 4 2023 10:12AM
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Farmville420
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muffMan.I mean same with concretes, saw a user post some when they got it and looked nice on snow


Meh, Vishnu always has decent graphics, sometimes great ones, I just thought it was funny that they made a literal concrete topsheet and wanted that kid to realize that it’s stupid to hate on ski company for graphics when every company misses sometimes. I do genuinely think the concrete topsheet is trash but I don’t actually care, V’s are cool and super cheap, but I don’t bash them because they make some topsheets I don’t like, and I certainly wouldn’t judge the entire company on it
Mar 4 2023 10:30AM
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Lenny-
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Farmville420Meh, Vishnu always has decent graphics, sometimes great ones, I just thought it was funny that they made a literal concrete topsheet and wanted that kid to realize that it’s stupid to hate on ski company for graphics when every company misses sometimes. I do genuinely think the concrete topsheet is trash but I don’t actually care, V’s are cool and super cheap, but I don’t bash them because they make some topsheets I don’t like, and I certainly wouldn’t judge the entire company on it

Every top sheet that Jskis has ever put out is completely played out or ugly as fuck.
Mar 4 2023 10:49AM
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Farmville420
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LenntEvery top sheet that Jskis has ever put out is completely played out or ugly as fuck.



Mar 4 2023 10:50AM
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Lenny-
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Farmville420

I can't post every single jskis top sheet for you.
Mar 4 2023 11:00AM
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Farmville420
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LenntI can't post every single jskis top sheet for you.


You don’t have to you’re still missing the point
Mar 4 2023 11:01AM
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Lenny-
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Farmville420You don’t have to you’re still missing the point

Your point is that I shouldn't bash a company just because I don't like the art on their products. Your point in posting every Vishnu top sheet you don't like is to say "hey I don't like this top sheet but you don't see me hating on Vishnu".

Im saying I don't like the company because every single top sheet they have ever made is something I don't enjoy looking at and they are more expensive than any other ski brand I would choose. This isn't some one off top sheet I dislike from them it's literally every top sheet they have ever made. Every company has made a top sheet I dislike J skis just does it on every ski so that's why they get hate from me for it.

If I don't like looking at any of your products why shouldn't I say so? You specifically asked why people don't like them and I answered. Now you are just acting like a child who's butthurt someone isn't dick sucking their favorite brand. It's not that I don't understand your point it's that your point is stupid.
Mar 5 2023 8:09AM
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Whaddup
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Pre-ordered the V's, I think it ended up being $560 or something? Just got some J Hotshots for $500 shipped from their "secret stash." Couldn't find a thing wrong with them. Great skis. Woulda rather got Jeffreys but $$$

Here they are getting along in the locker room.
Mar 6 2023 12:31AM
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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People really liked them but they got just a bit too cheesy with their “limited edition” stuff and now all the hype beasts are on them. They’re good skis with a type of supreme branding. That’s literally the reason. Also, some people don’t like J.
Farmville420People on this site love to clown J’s but everyone I know in real life who rides em all agree they’re the best skis out rn. They have a super dope team too, idk why people don’t fuck with them
Mar 6 2023 1:34AM
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skiP.E.I.
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Helix 88s are super fun but they're not soft. The flex is similar to the Arv and they have no rocker either.
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