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Agate420
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i got some used vishnu wets off somebody from here and the bases are good for 4 year old skis but they still got scratches and dents, should i epoxy, jbweld or just leave it?
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1062952/trim-03D9479C-6710-4560-B37A-A4DF5789AE6C-MOV
Jan 31 2023 2:32PM
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Agate420
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https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1062953/trim-2A1436D7-BF9F-4814-A52A-8B40BD34E833-MOV

**This post was edited on Jan 31st 2023 at 2:34:41pm
Jan 31 2023 2:34PM
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Vish-shoe
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They look fine, you should probably ptex the big ones if you care enough to do it, but I doubt that ski will last much longer no matter what you do to take care of it. Four years is a lot for a park ski.
Jan 31 2023 2:46PM
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Agate420
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JITYThey look fine, you should probably ptex the big ones if you care enough to do it, but I doubt that ski will last much longer no matter what you do to take care of it. Four years is a lot for a park ski.


yeah, i was gonna buy brand new ones earlier but i figured these ones were pretty cheap and came with bindings so i’ll figure out if i like them or not

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Jan 31 2023 2:47PM
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SurfaceIsdurable
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Fresh wax job will do the trick in my opinion
Jan 31 2023 2:48PM
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weastcoat
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Not to sound like an ass but I’ve had Vishnus that have had the base feeling like sandpaper and I was still fine for speed as long as I waxed every so often. If you’re that concerned you could melt some ptex into the gouges. Make sure you scrape well so the base is as flush as you can get it.
Jan 31 2023 3:31PM
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Agate420
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weatcoastNot to sound like an ass but I’ve had Vishnus that have had the base feeling like sandpaper and I was still fine for speed as long as I waxed every so often. If you’re that concerned you could melt some ptex into the gouges. Make sure you scrape well so the base is as flush as you can get it.


okay, thanks
Jan 31 2023 3:32PM
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IsaacNW82
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TBH these are totally fine, go ski em.

Epoxy is good when you have serious damage (like a coreshot that is about to rip out an edge) because it bonds to the materials better and is you best bet at preventing the damage from propagating. P-tex is more like base material (waxes and slides on snow well) and is best for small repairs like yours
Feb 1 2023 12:05PM
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STEEZUS_CHRI5T
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Do nothing. I ski through the park lots all the time and hear all kinds of scaping noises. Scratches don't matter unless you're a ski racer.

The other day I tried to ride through the village at the bottom and went straight onto a fresh patch of stones. The jagged edges dug into my bases and cashed me to immediately stop. It was like riding over a rubber mat. Anyways I do this stuff all the time and I haven't noticed anything.

Also don't wax your skis. It's a scam unless you are a competitive ski racer.
Feb 1 2023 1:26PM
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Agate420
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STEEZUS_CHRI5TDo nothing. I ski through the park lots all the time and hear all kinds of scaping noises. Scratches don't matter unless you're a ski racer.

The other day I tried to ride through the village at the bottom and went straight onto a fresh patch of stones. The jagged edges dug into my bases and cashed me to immediately stop. It was like riding over a rubber mat. Anyways I do this stuff all the time and I haven't noticed anything.

Also don't wax your skis. It's a scam unless you are a competitive ski racer.


I’ve never waxed skis before bc your right it is a scam but i don’t know about these cause homie said they’ve been chilling collecting dust for like a year
Feb 1 2023 1:37PM
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STEEZUS_CHRI5T
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Agate420I’ve never waxed skis before bc your right it is a scam but i don’t know about these cause homie said they’ve been chilling collecting dust for like a year


Gotcha - i'd like to hear peoples rebuttals to waxing and worrying about scratches. Seems like some people really take care of their bases which is great but it's not necessary
Feb 1 2023 2:12PM
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SofaKingSick
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STEEZUS_CHRI5TGotcha - i'd like to hear peoples rebuttals to waxing and worrying about scratches. Seems like some people really take care of their bases which is great but it's not necessary


you absolutely don't need to stress about it anywhere near like racers do. but it makes you go faster (i fucking HATE being slow in the flats, on a cat track, carrying speed, traversing, exiting a remote glade etc etc), protects your base, and also just makes your skis perform better. it's not just oh, i need to shave seconds off my time, it makes them behave more consistently and it helps even when going slow, initiating turns and stuff

also it seems to be a trend lately to put lower quality bases on skis these days which is bullshit so we need all the help we can get. if you aint first youre last, so jot that down

get a little wax iron ($30 maybe) and a bar of wax and just do it every so often is what i say
Feb 1 2023 3:05PM
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IsaacNW82
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SofaKingSickyou absolutely don't need to stress about it anywhere near like racers do. but it makes you go faster (i fucking HATE being slow in the flats, on a cat track, carrying speed, traversing, exiting a remote glade etc etc), protects your base, and also just makes your skis perform better. it's not just oh, i need to shave seconds off my time, it makes them behave more consistently and it helps even when going slow, initiating turns and stuff

also it seems to be a trend lately to put lower quality bases on skis these days which is bullshit so we need all the help we can get. if you aint first youre last, so jot that down

get a little wax iron ($30 maybe) and a bar of wax and just do it every so often is what i say


Agree 100%, you don't need to sweat it much, but hot pow and sticky spring snow are fucking miserable without wax. Plus it allows you to get more speed for side hits, skate the flat spots less, etc etc. Especially nice if you're light like me, or ski a mountain with lots of traverses/flat spots.

Small base scratches on the other hand, I don't care much about. Eventually it sucks bc you can feel them on groomers, but it takes a whole lot of damage to get there
Feb 1 2023 3:17PM
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Agate420
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IsaacNW82Agree 100%, you don't need to sweat it much, but hot pow and sticky spring snow are fucking miserable without wax. Plus it allows you to get more speed for side hits, skate the flat spots less, etc etc. Especially nice if you're light like me, or ski a mountain with lots of traverses/flat spots.

Small base scratches on the other hand, I don't care much about. Eventually it sucks bc you can feel them on groomers, but it takes a whole lot of damage to get there


do i need wax branded as ski wax or can i use skate wax/gulf wax
Feb 1 2023 3:23PM
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IsaacNW82
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Agate420do i need wax branded as ski wax or can i use skate wax/gulf wax


I have no idea what would happen if you used skate/gulf wax haha. Ski wax ca be found pretty cheap, and often has snow-specific additives, I'd just go with that
Feb 1 2023 3:44PM
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SofaKingSick
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Agate420do i need wax branded as ski wax or can i use skate wax/gulf wax


definitely need wax made for hot waxing skis. just get an all-conditions variety from a decent brand when you see it for a decent price. if you don't melt gallons of it onto your skis each time it can last a long time

there are all kinds of waxes in the world and they can do wildly things. surf wax makes the top of your board sticky. skate wax makes things slick but is probably chemically very different than ski base wax and won't go in the base and perform like ski wax
Feb 1 2023 4:00PM
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nmwninjart
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Those look great for 4 year old Vishnus. You leave them as is. A coat of wax will be nice but its not required. You're just going to add more scratches when you ski them anyway. What topsheet are these? You should have maintenance stuff on hand to fix things as they happen.
Feb 1 2023 7:31PM
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Agate420
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nmwninjartThose look great for 4 year old Vishnus. You leave them as is. A coat of wax will be nice but its not required. You're just going to add more scratches when you ski them anyway. What topsheet are these? You should have maintenance stuff on hand to fix things as they happen.



Feb 1 2023 7:35PM
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BearsOnKetamine
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honestly unless they’re into the core don’t worry about it. If they’re for park they’re just going to get more beat up. Just a waste of time to care for it if you ask me.
Feb 1 2023 10:29PM
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