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On3p billy goat 118 length and how it feels

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goofygoober
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Im gonna be going to Whistler in spring break. End of March because I'm still in school. I'm looking to get a new pair of skis and the Billy goat's have been really interesting with the RES and the asym but I'm wondering how does the 118 feel. Ive seen a lot of posts on how the old 116 felt but I'm not seeing much on the new 118. If anyone has experience on the 118's and what it feels like that'd be great. I mostly ski the west coast and some rockies and in Whistler this spring, I'm gonna be spending most time off-piste inbounds with like 3-4 groomers at the beginning or end of the day to accompany my little sister. I'm wondering if the billy goat is fine on groomers or is it an absolute nono. Also im not so sure what length I should go. I'm pretty small and light, at 5'8" and 135 lbs so idk if the 172's are better or the 177's or larger.
Jan 24 2023 11:28PM
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hoodratz47
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I have the 118. And I do love the billy goat for what it is. An unreal soft ski. Now on groomers. Well it's a different beast. Now I will take them on groomers and get them up on edge. It's kind of wild. And the radius is so huge. You are not gonna link tight turns. Most of the time. Im stivoting those planks. So I think it's worth to get them and have more fun in the soft snow and then have a more challenging ride back to the lodge

Tldr. Get them and have fun
Jan 25 2023 2:11AM
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goofygoober
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right that’s fine with me. i’m mostly looking for a good ski in soft snow. i’m wondering what length to go tho
Jan 25 2023 8:34AM
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goofygoober
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also should i get stock or make it custom + soft flex and get a silly goat
Jan 25 2023 9:58AM
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jca
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Send ON3P an email, they're super good about recommendations.

I'm 5'8", 160 on older 186s personally.
Jan 25 2023 12:30PM
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hoodratz47
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I got mine on sale due to a blown sidewalk in construction. (I've had no issues with it). It's a tour layup and it's stiff. I really enjoy it. That being said. I'm 6.2 and weigh about 250 rn so I definitely need a stiffer ski. So you may be able to get away with a softer ski
omgeeitslexialso should i get stock or make it custom + soft flex and get a silly goat
Jan 25 2023 1:20PM
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goofygoober
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Okay yea i've been thinking of getting custom with softer flex because i like skis a bit on the softer side. Also because im so light. Im just still wondering whether 172 or 177
Jan 25 2023 2:17PM
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RowenBerkey
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omgeeitslexiOkay yea i've been thinking of getting custom with softer flex because i like skis a bit on the softer side. Also because im so light. Im just still wondering whether 172 or 177


I have not skied the billy goat but have skied similar, fat, soft pow skis and it’s always nice to have ski a bit on the longer side if you charge hard, and if you get a custom flex then for sure the 177. It may feel a bit long in some tight trees but you will be able to really open it up when the skiing gets fast.
For example I am 5,11, 150p and ski a ct 3 in 190 and some custom kindreds in a 191, 122mm underfoot.
Jan 25 2023 4:01PM
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jca
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omgeeitslexiOkay yea i've been thinking of getting custom with softer flex because i like skis a bit on the softer side. Also because im so light. Im just still wondering whether 172 or 177


I have no idea of your ski ability but id be looking at 177 or 182 if i were you.

They're super loose and pivoty if the snow's at all soft.
Jan 25 2023 4:50PM
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goofygoober
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i think i’m advanced but not expert. i mostly ski glades, bowls, powder, and steeps. my old skis were a head more 99 162. i’m feeling like a jump to 177 would be a lot but i’m not sure. would a 172 be too short?
Jan 25 2023 5:08PM
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goofygoober
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head kore*
Jan 25 2023 9:49PM
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hoodratz47
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I'd do the 177.
Jan 25 2023 9:53PM
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goofygoober
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okay and should i go softer flex or keep it stock? Im not sure what the flex is like for a billy goat
Jan 25 2023 11:26PM
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jca
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omgeeitslexiokay and should i go softer flex or keep it stock? Im not sure what the flex is like for a billy goat


I highly recommend contacting ON3P, they'll be able to give you a much better answer than anyone on NS.
info@on3pskis.com
Jan 26 2023 10:43AM
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goofygoober
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okay yea i contacted them. they said to go with a 177 and a soft flex. still deciding whether i go 118 or 110 for the billy goats.
Jan 26 2023 1:52PM
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Mr_pretzel
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Get the woodsman 110 instead, you'll enjoy your time in Whistler much more.
Jan 27 2023 8:49AM
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goofygoober
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I’m going for the billy goat cause of the res.
Jan 27 2023 10:31AM
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Mr_pretzel
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omgeeitslexiI’m going for the billy goat cause of the res.


Whistler hasn’t been the wet goo mountain people say it is in a while. It’s also not guaranteed to snow then.
Jan 27 2023 12:42PM
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goofygoober
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ah damn okay. might pick up the BG110's through custom then
Jan 27 2023 1:24PM
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goofygoober
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Though I am thinking of picking up a J96's for the days that the snow isn't so good. Then grab a bg118's for the good powder days
Jan 27 2023 1:25PM
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RudyGarmisch
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I ski the 116’s on groomers, they do OK but they aren’t locked in like a full camber non RES skis on hard snow. That’s not what you’re buying them for though. I’d do it and try it out, 177 would be the length for you here, in either a tour construction or a soft flex.
Jan 28 2023 9:04PM
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