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Anyone know any big side hits in Vermont/New Hampshire?

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FranklinTheSkier
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Anyone know of any big booter side hits (like the stuff you find in Colorado or Utah) in the east, specifically at sugarbush and killington? I want to send flips but I’m not tryna snap my l5 vertebrae and I see all these Colorado kids with the best side hits that go straight into like 4 million feet of pow which look’s perfect for straight sending. I need to find something like this asap.
Jan 8 2023 1:45PM
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dwt802
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It’s the east coast, I’m not sure what exactly you’re looking for but I don’t think either place has it, especially right now with the snowpack.
Jan 8 2023 2:19PM
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SurfaceIsdurable
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Why can’t u send the flips on the jumps at killington ?
Jan 8 2023 3:24PM
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Goretex_Vidal
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Berkshire East has a 15-20 foot cliff somewhere if you feel like throwing backies into 6 millimeters of fresh sleet.
Jan 8 2023 4:11PM
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a_burger
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binder @loaf best side hits east of the mississippi. can't gauruntee powder though lol
Jan 8 2023 5:14PM
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sambuswell
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There is maybe 6 inches of natural coverage in the areas between those mountains at the moment :(
Jan 8 2023 5:19PM
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FranklinTheSkier
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sambuswellThere is maybe 6 inches of natural coverage in the areas between those mountains at the moment :(


What about in the mountains prime?
Jan 8 2023 5:32PM
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sambuswell
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FranklinTheSkierWhat about in the mountains prime?


Not much. It was 50 degrees and rained 3 days last week so don't come expecting natural snow
Jan 8 2023 5:42PM
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asparagus
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If you drive north a bit you’ll find this crazy side hit called Maximize. You’ve gotta drop $100+ to hit it but it must be crazy powdery cuz lots of pros learn flips on it.
Jan 8 2023 6:21PM
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bogust
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Goretex_VidalBerkshire East has a 15-20 foot cliff somewhere if you feel like throwing backies into 6 millimeters of fresh sleet.


Back when it used to snow at Berkshire east there were some crazy drops and spots to hit for such a small mountain
Jan 8 2023 6:37PM
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ridgetop
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Build a road gap and you get to name it
Jan 8 2023 6:40PM
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Goretex_Vidal
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ridgetopBuild a road gap and you get to name it

Will venmo the first person to clear the hairpin on the Kanc $100
Jan 8 2023 6:43PM
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Farmville420
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FranklinTheSkierAnyone know of any big booter side hits (like the stuff you find in Colorado or Utah) in the east, specifically at sugarbush and killington? I want to send flips but I’m not tryna snap my l5 vertebrae and I see all these Colorado kids with the best side hits that go straight into like 4 million feet of pow which look’s perfect for straight sending. I need to find something like this asap.


It may not hurt when when you fall in pow but it is probably twice or 3 times as hard to land shit in pow than east coast conditions.
Jan 8 2023 8:54PM
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GrandThings
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Goretex_VidalWill venmo the first person to clear the hairpin on the Kanc $100


Yo is there an actual spot on the Kanc? You talking about the Hancock turn?
Jan 8 2023 8:56PM
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dwt802
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sambuswellThere is maybe 6 inches of natural coverage in the areas between those mountains at the moment :(


Ha bush has under 2 inches of nat snow and killi has like 3-4 maybe. Shit is not good.

would also like to note that good east coast side hits are going to look extremely different from a good western one. Take offs, landings, and overall style of the jump. It’s due to the terrain and trees.
Jan 8 2023 9:02PM
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FranklinTheSkier
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dwt802Ha bush has under 2 inches of nat snow and killi has like 3-4 maybe. Shit is not good.

would also like to note that good east coast side hits are going to look extremely different from a good western one. Take offs, landings, and overall style of the jump. It’s due to the terrain and trees

Why does the east gotta be like the smh
Jan 8 2023 9:08PM
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dwt802
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FranklinTheSkierWhy does the east gotta be like the smh


Because it’s the way it is, you just have to learn to appreciate it for super niche things, like running out of snow in January and having little natural hits lol.

I live in montana primarily now and still love coming home to ski killington no matter the condition, you gotta make your own fun.
Jan 8 2023 9:10PM
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FranklinTheSkier
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dwt802Because it’s the way it is, you just have to learn to appreciate it for super niche things, like running out of snow in January and having little natural hits lol.

I live in montana primarily now and still love coming home to ski killington no matter the condition, you gotta make your own fun.


I like the small mountain vibes in the east a lot but like cmon last year we had like 9 blizzards by now and by looking at the forecast we won’t get anything for another week or 2 at least
Jan 8 2023 9:14PM
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SteezyYeeter
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little confused by what a 'side hit' means.. to me that's anywhere from a little dip on the side of the trail that kids catch 'air' on, to a big lip you can gap over moguls to a small cliff... really anything that naturally forms. really big ones that you can flip on and stuff are pretty rare in the east, although you might have better luck at mad river, 15 mins north of sugarbush. at sugarbush, there's a cliff called the headwall that you could 3 off if you're feeling comfortable. there are lots of hits around the mountain but nothing notable enough to make it a point of going there. can't say about killington.
Jan 8 2023 10:02PM
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WoFIowz
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I swear I've seen pics of people doing backflips into green beret at Jay peak but can't find it for the life of me.
Jan 8 2023 10:45PM
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BigmoneyMatt
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FranklinTheSkierAnyone know of any big booter side hits (like the stuff you find in Colorado or Utah) in the east, specifically at sugarbush and killington? I want to send flips but I’m not tryna snap my l5 vertebrae and I see all these Colorado kids with the best side hits that go straight into like 4 million feet of pow which look’s perfect for straight sending. I need to find something like this asap.


You're a genius, now that we know who all the east coast "skiers" are we can collectively ignore them. Good work.
Jan 8 2023 10:55PM
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Goretex_Vidal
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GrandThingsYo is there an actual spot on the Kanc? You talking about the Hancock turn?


No idea, just always thought that would be a sick place for a road gap.
Jan 8 2023 11:26PM
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Sht_eatn_dog
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Just carry a shovel in bag and make a side hit big enough. Watch out for the red coats!
Jan 9 2023 9:07AM
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PsychicMigration
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Turd__AuthorityI swear I've seen pics of people doing backflips into green beret at Jay peak but can't find it for the life of me.


Cliff under the Bonnie too
Jan 9 2023 9:15AM
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WoFIowz
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PsychicMigrationCliff under the Bonnie too

That would be impressive
Jan 9 2023 10:51AM
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macfive
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FranklinTheSkierAnyone know of any big booter side hits (like the stuff you find in Colorado or Utah) in the east, specifically at sugarbush and killington? I want to send flips but I’m not tryna snap my l5 vertebrae and I see all these Colorado kids with the best side hits that go straight into like 4 million feet of pow which look’s perfect for straight sending. I need to find something like this asap.


No, but I bet if you went and explored the glades you would be able to find some. However, the best places for natural hits are usually under the chair lifts. The snow pack is typically good enough after or during a snow fall, and they are usually flagged off so its not totally skied out yet (earlier in the season is better). Ski patrol might have an issue, it depends on the mountain.

The east is also harder to find features to spin off of since the forests are dense. The features you hit are usually the easy part of the line and the landing/run out is the harder part. Also since most glades are skied out within the first 24 hours of a snow fall you either need to get comfortable with rough terrain or go and explore.

Becoming friends with the locals will also help. The hardcore ones usually have spots that are their own.
Jan 9 2023 11:00AM
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theabortionator
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Learn how to do a backflip before try it on snow. You mentioned side hits going into a ton of pow. Prolly not gonna happen that often on the east coast, especially right now.

Learn how to do flips properly on the tramp or into the pool before trying it on snow. Sure pow is a nice cushion but you can still get fucked up if you have no idea what you're doing and try one.
Jan 9 2023 2:01PM
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FranklinTheSkier
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theabortionatorLearn how to do a backflip before try it on snow. You mentioned side hits going into a ton of pow. Prolly not gonna happen that often on the east coast, especially right now.

Learn how to do flips properly on the tramp or into the pool before trying it on snow. Sure pow is a nice cushion but you can still get fucked up if you have no idea what you're doing and try one.


I can do every axis on a trampoline that’s not the problem. I’m prolly just gonna send it on the rock hard ice landing that my local has on it’s only jump.
Jan 9 2023 7:47PM
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mattytru
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FranklinTheSkierI see all these Colorado kids with the best side hits that go straight into like 4 million feet of pow which look’s perfect for straight sending.

As a Colorado skier, you are straight up thinking of Alta
FranklinTheSkierI can do every axis on a trampoline that’s not the problem. I’m prolly just gonna send it on the rock hard ice landing that my local has on it’s only jump.

Growing up skiing Vermont we learned flips on park jumps, just find friends to learn with, makes it easier
Jan 10 2023 10:06AM
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IsaacNW82
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There isn't much at Sugarbush (or anywhere out east really) that's good for this that I know of, unfortunately. Probably the best luck I've had is straight up backyards with big hills and waiting for that 2ft nor'easter to come through, then you have a guarantee nobody is tracking out that landing but you but you have to shovel and hike a lot.

Sometimes I've gotten lucky building smaller jumps (flippable, barely) on or in the clearings near village run at Sugarbush, but if its on the run it'll get groomed eventually.

Actually if you like to tour, I found an amazing natural hit in the woods by Lincoln gap road (closed so you can tour up in the winter) that I was able to float a fairly large backy on. The trees were spaced enough to do this without being too sketched out:

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1060554/325186036-5577634162347153-7626435500524642980-n-mp4Sorry for the potato quality btw, I'm just being lazy sending the clip to myself over messenger. But again this is Vermont, so you need to wait for the snow to be good to make this really doable and that might happen only a few times a year or even not at all in any given year. I've moved out west since but friends out East seem to indicate it hasn't really skied like this in VT much for a few years :(.

P.S. Slushy spring park jumps aren't as forgiving to crash on as pow but still wayyy better than ice, and those you can typically count on happening most years in the east.
Jan 10 2023 11:58AM
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SofaKingSick
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IsaacNW82Probably the best luck I've had is straight up backyards with big hills and waiting for that 2ft nor'easter to come through, then you have a guarantee nobody is tracking out that landing but you but you have to shovel and hike a lot.


P.S. Slushy spring park jumps aren't as forgiving to crash on as pow but still wayyy better than ice, and those you can typically count on happening most years in the east.


this for sure. if you're on the east your best bet for learning flips safely is a jump you and your boys make on a hill after a storm, or pick your favorite jump and wait for it to be slushy in the spring

good luck! do it when the time is right!
Jan 10 2023 12:15PM
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Farmville420
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Go to the halfpipe in the spring and flip off the tail end of the pipe where it transitions back to grade. That’s where I learned.
Jan 10 2023 12:19PM
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theabortionator
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FranklinTheSkierI can do every axis on a trampoline that’s not the problem. I’m prolly just gonna send it on the rock hard ice landing that my local has on it’s only jump.


If you can flip every axis. Why are you talking/joking about breaking your shit? Maybe don't try it at 10 at night on a cold snap. But the east coast has plenty of warm days with spring vibes. You dont need deep powder if you know how to flip. The biggest thing is understanding how a flip works, and committing to the flip. Most people land it within the first 3. Usually its dialing in how fast to flip and spotting the landing and riding out. Most people take it to their feet first try.
Jan 10 2023 1:03PM
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FranklinTheSkier
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theabortionatorIf you can flip every axis. Why are you talking/joking about breaking your shit? Maybe don't try it at 10 at night on a cold snap. But the east coast has plenty of warm days with spring vibes. You dont need deep powder if you know how to flip. The biggest thing is understanding how a flip works, and committing to the flip. Most people land it within the first 3. Usually its dialing in how fast to flip and spotting the landing and riding out. Most people take it to their feet first try.


I made this thread mostly because I just wanna know if stuff like that exists in the east because it looks mad fun but I’m going/already have attempt flips at my local park jump regardless
Jan 11 2023 3:30PM
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SteezyYeeter
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on second thought, waterfall at stowe would be a pretty sendy place for a backie
Jan 12 2023 8:07PM
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theabortionator
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Cut ups at trail merges if they arent market. Sode hits coming out of the trees(lips can be FUCKED though lol. Stuff next to lift towers.

Any mtn with a pipe. Can air out at the end. Get like 4 feet and lay one out like a windlip. Any mtn with a hip. Can deck out and do the same.

It seems like the trees are grass and logs right now on the east coast so prolly not much stuff off the trail most places to huck a flip.
Jan 12 2023 9:43PM
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steez_apprentice
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SteezyYeeteron second thought, waterfall at stowe would be a pretty sendy place for a backie


You lost me at Stowe
Jan 12 2023 10:42PM
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Sk3islyf
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They don't exactly exist on the East Coast. Like yes, theoretically there are a few large side hits around but you can only hit them during a freak storm that comes once every decade and by the looks of this winter... Well, there's no snow anywhere in the middle of January so. On the other hand, there's a small jump at Gore mountain (ADK New York) that's perfect for flips but it's also small so anything more than a cork 7 is really pushing it. Perfect for small backies tho. We've had a lot of warm soft days so I would probably just wait for one of those and just go for whatever you're trying. A bit of confidence and you probably won't die.
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