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Is social media unhealthy for skiing?

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hegleezy
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I don't know how to put it into words but you know when you see that Kid that went to windell's once with his copy and paste ass fit show up in your feed, Its the people like that and their over the top social media presence that just rub me the wrong way. Don't even get me started on TikTok. Am I just the pretentious asshole for thinking this? I see so many people doing the same thing that everything just seems less significant, but maybe I'm just tired of seeing people better than me.

Never seen anyone talk about this so I would love to hear some answers.

**This thread was edited on Jan 7th 2023 at 9:03:40pm
Jan 7 2023 9:00PM
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STEEZUS_CHRI5T
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Social media is a disease. You are not alone.
Jan 7 2023 9:10PM
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TOAST.
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hot hot hot hot hot hot hot
Jan 7 2023 9:19PM
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-Dan
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press “Not interested” and follow skiers you wanna see.
Jan 7 2023 9:39PM
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Jems
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instagram isn’t great but tiktok is just plain lame

youtube 💪💪💪💪
Jan 7 2023 9:49PM
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Rusteeze
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I get where you’re coming from, as a lot of it does seem really surface level (I don’t think it’s pretentious to feel this way). However, you can still find cool stuff on social media it just takes a little sifting through it all.

It’s like Dan said, just ignore the ones that don’t interest you.

And just in general social media is messed up so…
Jan 7 2023 9:55PM
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GayWolf420
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It's a double-edged sword. On one edge you have all this exposure to people who can rip but also the other edge is a bunch of fucking knob never-ever beaters bragging that they have a trustfund in terms of influencer shit. Skiing for IG/TikTok likes needs to die off quickly though, I will die on that hill.
Jan 7 2023 10:02PM
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Slowbro
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It is bad for skiing content and core skiers, probably good for overall skiing participation.
Jan 7 2023 10:53PM
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WoFIowz
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Good for keeping the sport alive by getting new skiers but social media itself is a cancer. People spend too much time taking pictures and videos and staging shit for the gram. Just fucking ski.
Jan 7 2023 11:43PM
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SurfaceIsdurable
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Social media is unhealthy in general
Jan 8 2023 12:41AM
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theabortionator
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People have always copied other people. That's part of growing up and figuring out who you are and where you fit in. If not from social media. Then tv comps of ski movies, before that, people you see on the hill.

Sure social media is kind of beat but it's not all new stuff, just a more amplified version.

If it's that bad and you hate it, get rid of it or don't follow certain skiers who you think are whack.

Idk, I think we're way to far into the time of social media for the "hot take" of how social media in ______ is bad.
Jan 8 2023 1:46AM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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Jemsinstagram isn’t great but tiktok is just plain lame

youtube 💪💪💪💪


Youtube the greatest cause it has Andri's 1 hr new documentary on there. People that hate on short insta edits CANT HATE ON THAT!!
Jan 8 2023 2:29AM
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BigmoneyMatt
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I wanna become a rich philanthropist so I can adopt 7 Nigerian children and train them to become world class freestyle skiers/influencers, the freestyle ski scene will be so epic if I do this dude and like nobody else gunna do this? What a fantastic idea. Just know when you start seeing Nigerian kids doing triple corks, yeah I did tht.
Jan 8 2023 4:20AM
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tutipups
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i say the problem is people skiing for social media
Jan 8 2023 7:06AM
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b0ss
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Jan 8 2023 9:50AM
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skierman
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"SOCIAL MEDIA IS TOXIC, I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I USE MULTIPLE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS ALL OF THE TIME!"


You kids are so fucking pathetic and dumb.
Jan 8 2023 10:25AM
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STEEZUS_CHRI5T
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skierman"SOCIAL MEDIA IS TOXIC, I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I USE MULTIPLE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS ALL OF THE TIME!"


You kids are so fucking pathetic and dumb.

YouTube and NS are all I use. YouTube is a sneaky one, it’s actually pretty bad
Jan 8 2023 10:29AM
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Jems
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STEEZUS_CHRI5TYouTube and NS are all I use. YouTube is a sneaky one, it’s actually pretty bad

youtube holds all the highest quality skiing content
Jan 8 2023 10:32AM
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WabbleDee
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Instagram skiers are unironically doing more to help skiing than any shitty “core” edit in the last 5 years.
Jan 8 2023 11:20AM
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Jems
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WabbleDeeInstagram skiers are unironically doing more to help skiing than any shitty “core” edit in the last 5 years.


wow look it’s this dumb fuck


Jan 8 2023 11:23AM
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STEEZUS_CHRI5T
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WabbleDeeInstagram skiers are unironically doing more to help skiing than any shitty “core” edit in the last 5 years.

Stopped reading after “unironically”
Jan 8 2023 11:32AM
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hegleezy
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Took the initiative and stopped looking at it entirely for the last month or so, that’s where this post comes from old man.
skierman"SOCIAL MEDIA IS TOXIC, I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I USE MULTIPLE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS ALL OF THE TIME!"


You kids are so fucking pathetic and dumb.
Jan 8 2023 12:02PM
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WabbleDee
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Bro social media is like evil, bro, it’s like, it’s so bad for people man.
STEEZUS_CHRI5TStopped reading after “unironically”
Jan 8 2023 2:01PM
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Knapzach
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Capreach
Jan 8 2023 2:39PM
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TreyDaYoungan
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I like social media because I like titties!!!
Jan 8 2023 4:10PM
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hi_vis360
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I find insta super useful for connecting with local rippers who ski at other mountains that I might not meet otherwise. It’s cool to see what other people are up to in your area, what park setups there are etc.

but yeah other than that it sucks
Jan 8 2023 5:04PM
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katrina
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All things in moderation.

But yea I couldn't do that and it was terrible for me personally so I just got rid of all mine, NS excepted.
Jan 8 2023 6:18PM
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BigmoneyMatt
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WabbleDeeInstagram skiers are unironically doing more to help skiing than any shitty “core” edit in the last 5 years.


You unironically have negative karma
Jan 8 2023 6:26PM
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Farmville420
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Social media is unhealthy in general but I don’t think it’s killing skiing. People will still always release edits and movies. I think the main reason those are “dying” is because there’s so many fuckin movies and street cuts and BC cuts that no one can keep up anymore. My buddies are ski film fanatics and even they missed like 10 films this fall, literally just because there were too many bangers to keep track of.

Its saturation volume. There have always been so many good skiers but now that everyone has a phone and the ability to film and post it seems like an explosion of content and riders

**This post was edited on Jan 8th 2023 at 8:12:27pm
Jan 8 2023 8:11PM
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Schoess
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Hard agree that YouTube is the goat. Just follow good homies on IG. TikTok is not setup to be meaningful so I wouldn't even bother with it.

If you want to be mega core, you'll only follow Jet skis and comment something obscure on every post they make.
Jan 8 2023 9:36PM
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SteezyYeeter
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i think it's good for skiing if you're looking at it from the perspective of a soulless vail ceo or something. it makes the numbers go up. but the locals dont like it.
Jan 8 2023 10:10PM
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S.J.W
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People act like they don’t have a choice in social media. Like Dan said, press not interested and move on. If it rubs you the wrong way, then get over yourself, you’re not morally superior just because you don’t post your edits on tik tok. Let people do them, and you do you and the world would be a better place.
Jan 8 2023 10:39PM
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PsychicMigration
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Making full length edits is no longer appreciated or worthwhile for anyone under 15/16 that can get milli views posting on tik tok. Lots of videos nowadays post half the clips before it even drops.
Jan 9 2023 9:24AM
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Jems
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S.J.WPeople act like they don’t have a choice in social media. Like Dan said, press not interested and move on. If it rubs you the wrong way, then get over yourself, you’re not morally superior just because you don’t post your edits on tik tok. Let people do them, and you do you and the world would be a better place.

Not posting your edits on tiktok makes you morally superior
Jan 9 2023 9:41AM
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hegleezy
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JemsNot posting your edits on tiktok makes you morally superior


No it doesn’t and if you really think that your delusional. Fuck that app but how does not posting on it make you “morally” superior?
Jan 9 2023 9:49AM
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Jems
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hegleezyNo it doesn’t and if you really think that your delusional. Fuck that app but how does not posting on it make you “morally” superior?

posting your clips on tiktok is wack
Jan 9 2023 9:59AM
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BLandz
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Like if u think I should post ig clips
Jan 9 2023 11:04AM
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S.J.W
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JemsNot posting your edits on tiktok makes you morally superior


Ski companies pay your favourite skier fuck all. Anything that will get skiers more money I’m happy with.
Jan 9 2023 7:54PM
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Jems
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S.J.WSki companies pay your favourite skier fuck all. Anything that will get skiers more money I’m happy with.

my favorite skiers probably don’t even get paid 😭😭 they also don’t rely on instagram for their entire career
Jan 9 2023 8:00PM
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S.J.W
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Jemsmy favorite skiers probably don’t even get paid 😭😭 they also don’t rely on instagram for their entire career


And there in lies the problem. Social media gives the power back to the rider. They have all the tools and insights in order to go these brands that only flow them shit, and gaslight them into thinking “well there’s just no money in action sports”. They can go to these brands and make a case as to why they should be paid more.

Social media is a stain on so many things, and there is so many things wrong with it. However, giving a platform for those who otherwise would never be able to make it, isn’t one of their problems.


And lastly, NewSchoolers is a social media website.
Jan 9 2023 9:51PM
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Jems
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S.J.WAnd there in lies the problem. Social media gives the power back to the rider. They have all the tools and insights in order to go these brands that only flow them shit, and gaslight them into thinking “well there’s just no money in action sports”. They can go to these brands and make a case as to why they should be paid more.

Social media is a stain on so many things, and there is so many things wrong with it. However, giving a platform for those who otherwise would never be able to make it, isn’t one of their problems.


And lastly, NewSchoolers is a social media website.

some people would rather get thousands of views on youtube or ns from skiing in quality edits 🤯🤯
Jan 9 2023 10:56PM
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S.J.W
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Jemssome people would rather get thousands of views on youtube or ns from skiing in quality edits 🤯🤯

YouTube and NS are also social media platforms.
Jan 10 2023 12:24AM
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Jems
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S.J.WYouTube and NS are also social media platforms.


what are you even trying to prove here
Jan 10 2023 10:53AM
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bigcandybar
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Deleted the instagram app off my phone in like October. it was hard at first, kinda like a drunk guy going cold turkey, but in the end you wont miss it and your brain will be happier.
Jan 10 2023 11:23AM
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IsaacNW82
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Eh I just think its a changing scene we have to live with. I agree that Insta and TT are very low-effort, but as long as there is still a place and appreciate for legit film projects I think they can mostly live side by side. Almost all of the skiers I follow on social still put out dope longer projects, and I get stoked to watch those. It sucks that some people feel not motivated to do so now, bc some repost page that's obviously drop-shipping cringy merch will get 100x the reach of a legit year long film project that somebody poured their heart into, but all I can really do about that is keep supporting the skiers I like.

Personally I'll admit to throwing lazy clips on social bc its fun to put a clip you're stoked on to shitty pop music, and I also usually make YT season edits for myself that take a ton of work and only get ~50 views both for the same reason, which is for me: I simply like to.

The flip side too is social is a far more democratic way for young guns to get noticed. And its own your own terms too, which is great. I have my own personal opinions that kids should be allowed to be kids and not get thrown into the industry too soon, but I do think its overall a good thing that talent can get recognized better. I actually ran into someone I know from social media in Revy last week and it was dope, took some wild laps so I think there is some actual power to meet like-minded skiers (including on NS) that we may take for granted.
Jan 10 2023 12:35PM
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S.J.W
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Jemswhat are you even trying to prove here


How are you going to take a holyier than thou attitude towards tik tok and Instagram and say social media is ruining skiing? When NewSchoolers and YouTube is all social media. They’re all the exact same. They’re all the same shallow, soul sucking, attention grabbing, short attention span pieces of shit. All social media is a poison.

People act like social media is the one driving trends, or kids wanting to dick ride someone’s style, or people doing shit just for views. But that’s always been the case, before social media when I was a kid, I would do things for attention from my friends. I would gravitate towards trends from the magazines, or movies. Social Media is purely just a magnifier for what society already is.
Jan 10 2023 4:20PM
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STEEZUS_CHRI5T
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S.J.WHow are you going to take a holyier than thou attitude towards tik tok and Instagram and say social media is ruining skiing? When NewSchoolers and YouTube is all social media. They’re all the exact same. They’re all the same shallow, soul sucking, attention grabbing, short attention span pieces of shit. All social media is a poison.

People act like social media is the one driving trends, or kids wanting to dick ride someone’s style, or people doing shit just for views. But that’s always been the case, before social media when I was a kid, I would do things for attention from my friends. I would gravitate towards trends from the magazines, or movies. Social Media is purely just a magnifier for what society already is.


Tik-Toc is not the same as NewSchoolers. That app is in a league of its own when it comes to be being fake, addictive, and depressing.
Jan 10 2023 4:28PM
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Jems
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S.J.WHow are you going to take a holyier than thou attitude towards tik tok and Instagram and say social media is ruining skiing? When NewSchoolers and YouTube is all social media. They’re all the exact same. They’re all the same shallow, soul sucking, attention grabbing, short attention span pieces of shit. All social media is a poison.

People act like social media is the one driving trends, or kids wanting to dick ride someone’s style, or people doing shit just for views. But that’s always been the case, before social media when I was a kid, I would do things for attention from my friends. I would gravitate towards trends from the magazines, or movies. Social Media is purely just a magnifier for what society already is

please state in this thread where i said social media is ruining skiing. also not sure why you’re trying to argue that “youtube and ns are still social media” when i never said they werent. all i argued is that youtube and ns hold more quality content. still doesn’t change the fact that everything on instagram and especially tiktok is low effort.
Jan 10 2023 4:38PM
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S.J.W
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STEEZUS_CHRI5TTik-Toc is not the same as NewSchoolers. That app is in a league of its own when it comes to be being fake, addictive, and depressing.

All social media is the same. It’s just new and you’re old so naturally you think it’s not worse than the social media you grew up with. NewSchoolers may be even more fake than tik tok because you can hide behind anonymity. How many shit threads are there with people giving advice they know nothing about. And in terms of the “fake” comments about social media. Photos have always been fake, back in the day when you use to have photo books of your trips and you’d show them to your friends/ family. You’d never show the shit photos, or tell them about the arguments you had on the holiday. All social media does is provide a means of show and tell for society. Society hasn’t changed one bit, technology has.
Jemsplease state in this thread where i said social media is ruining skiing. also not sure why you’re trying to argue that “youtube and ns are still social media” when i never said they werent. all i argued is that youtube and ns hold more quality content. still doesn’t change the fact that everything on instagram and especially tiktok is low effort.


Yeah sorta got side tracked with replying to you and injecting my own opinion into it, so the two kinda got mixed into one shit show. But there is so much shit on NewSchoolers and YouTube which is absolute dogshit. The only difference is you have to seek out what you wish to view on NS and YT so you have a bias towards those platforms. But I’ve discovered some sick skiers from my local mountain I otherwise would have never seen. Shoutout Jai and Martin. I don’t have time to scroll through NS for hours and watch every edit til I find someone sick. I can however flick through Instagram and TikTok, see some shit which I’ll never remember then see a sick trick and that’ll prop me to look into them.


I get it’s easy to hate on Instagram and social media, but no one is forcing you to consume the dogshit ski videos which pop up on your feed. Tailor your feed to what you’d like to see, follow creators you like and overall social media can be a useful tool for discovery.
Jan 10 2023 5:17PM
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Christian_Bale
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S.J.WHow are you going to take a holyier than thou attitude towards tik tok and Instagram and say social media is ruining skiing? When NewSchoolers and YouTube is all social media. They’re all the exact same. They’re all the same shallow, soul sucking, attention grabbing, short attention span pieces of shit. All social media is a poison.

People act like social media is the one driving trends, or kids wanting to dick ride someone’s style, or people doing shit just for views. But that’s always been the case, before social media when I was a kid, I would do things for attention from my friends. I would gravitate towards trends from the magazines, or movies. Social Media is purely just a magnifier for what society already is.

Not just a magnifier but an insane accelerater. Trends will always come and go but these days they start and end faster due to social media. Also NS and YouTube are obviously forms of social media that have negative aspects but tik Tok is clearly in a league of it's own. No way that newschoolers and yt are as shallow, or as bad for your attention span as tiktok
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PimpChimpin
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Insta skiers is the worst thing to happen to ski culture since Ruroc helmets
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