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cydwhitI'm not sure what you're asking here? Do you mean boots that won't work with MNC bindings, but will only work with pins?
It's hard to make sweeping generalization on downhill performance when the only factor you're looking at is binding compatibility.
hi_vis360I guess what I’m asking is getting a non MNC compatible boot worth it
cydwhitYeah, you still need to narrow it down haha. A non-MNC compatible boot is totally worth it, if it fits your foot. But it's far from the first thing to consider.
When shopping for a touring boot I would look for (in approximately this order):
-Fit
-Weight
-Flex, will it support my skiing style/weight?
-ROM - if it's light it will probably have totally adequate ROM
-Fiddle factor - will this boot transition efficiently
-Color will this boot match my kit?
-Sex appeal: Will all my friends thing this boot is cool
-MNC compatibility
If you don't know, and this is a first touring boot, you should just buy an MNC friendly boot. For folks coming from alpine boots, full weeny touring boots will probably feel too foreign, and will be less versatile. So just buy something along the lines of a Radical Pro, Hawx XTD, Maestrale, MTN Lab, whatever, over an F1, Backland, S/Lab Summit, TL, etc.
Yes, those non-MNC boots walk on rocks/etc marginally better, but that's as much a product of the weight and walk mode as the sole. Anything with a rockered sole walks fine.
As a rough rule, non-MNC boots are for folks who aren't planning on skiing them inbounds, unless it's fitness groomer laps or a return from a tour. There are tons of MNC boots that are nice and light, and walk well, that you can ski inbounds occasionally. For you, it sounds like the later category makes more sense.
cydwhitIf it's gonna be a pure touring setup, then yeah, skip the Shift and get something lighter, and easier to use. That solves your boot question at the same time!
hi_vis360Ok word, there are tons of MNC compatible boots that are good for pin bindings too though right? Or would that not make a difference performance wise and just be extra weight? Cause as you said fit is obviously most important
50KalFit is gonna be the most important especially if you gonna start hiking/touring distances.
Performance/capabilities vs weight will all be your preference and objectives.
Example, I have some Atomic Backland carbon boots that are awesome for the up but skis like a wet noodle in most conditions. Recently bought Atomic XTD Hawks and while the range of motion is less and weight is heavier, the performance waaaaay better on the way down.
Be realistic of what your trying to accomplish goal wise in the BC. Sounds like your gonna be doing day stuff so getting something that performs better/will be a little heavier won't hold you back at all.
Also if this gonna be your only boot, your gonna want a better performance boot that is MNC compatible, so heavier it is.
Also when AT people talk heavier, they are talking half pounds / ounces heavier not double digit pounds.
Don't get hanged up on weight. Performance will matter more unless your planning on some multi day ski mountaineering trip.
The weight of even high performance/heavy Pin/MNC compatible is light compared to traditional alpine ski boots.
hi_vis360Ok word, there are tons of MNC compatible boots that are good for pin bindings too though right? Or would that not make a difference performance wise and just be extra weight? Cause as you said fit is obviously most important