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Farmville420
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Skiing backwards is not “switch”, it’s fakie.
If anything, spinning unnatural would be “switch”. Nobody’s natural ski stance is backwards you fools.

“frontslide” isn’t a thing, it’s a fast slide.


Truck driver is really called “rocket”.

Im just scratching the surface. What is stopping us from using the right words to describe tricks??? Do people think skiers invented these things and deserve the right to name them? I’m only 25% trolling, it does irk me because its kinda lame to not know the history
Dec 28 2022 11:50AM
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Jems
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shut up loser
Dec 28 2022 11:55AM
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Farmville420
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Jemsshut up loser


Needed to get this outta my system I’ve been thinking about it for months
Dec 28 2022 11:58AM
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STEEZUS_CHRI5T
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Rocket grab is when you double grab the front tips. Truck driver is just a double grab between tips and bindings.

**This post was edited on Dec 28th 2022 at 12:32:22pm
Dec 28 2022 12:31PM
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STEEZUS_CHRI5T
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Farmville420Skiing backwards is not “switch”, it’s fakie.

it used to be called “cab”
Dec 28 2022 12:33PM
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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Which harkens back to the skater Daniel Caballero, if my old foggy brain is remembering correctly
STEEZUS_CHRI5Tit used to be called “cab”
Dec 28 2022 12:35PM
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Farmville420
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STEEZUS_CHRI5Tit used to be called “cab”


Only applies to spins no? I feel like fakie makes way more sense, because it’s the only tricks that are actually “backwards” on a skateboard. Regardless the term fakie was already used in rollerblading before skiing so that’s where I’m getting that from.
Dec 28 2022 12:46PM
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STEEZUS_CHRI5T
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Farmville420Only applies to spins no? I feel like fakie makes way more sense, because it’s the only tricks that are actually “backwards” on a skateboard. Regardless the term fakie was already used in rollerblading before skiing so that’s where I’m getting that from.

Not sure, I just remember Jossi wells, tanner hall, and TJ Schiller (among many others) called it that.

Tanner calling it cab:

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1059414/Tanner-Hall--How-to-do-a-cab-540
Dec 28 2022 12:53PM
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Farmville420
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STEEZUS_CHRI5TRocket grab is when you double grab the front tips. Truck driver is just a double grab between tips and bindings.

**This post was edited on Dec 28th 2022 at 12:32:22pm


U got me I was thinkin dub nose not truck
Dec 28 2022 1:02PM
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Andi_G
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I feel like switch is different than fakie because of the difference of stances. There is goofy and regular stances for board sports and then fakie is the opposite of your normal foot stance. Nobody learns how to ski with their ass facing downhill so switch is the same for everyone.
Dec 28 2022 1:42PM
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eheath
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It's switch, it's not fakie or cab, both are skateboard related terms and don't translate to skiing.
Dec 28 2022 1:44PM
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Farmville420
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eheathIt's switch, it's not fakie or cab, both are skateboard related terms and don't translate to skiing.


Switch is also a skateboard term
Dec 28 2022 1:50PM
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lil.Boye
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its just skiing
Dec 28 2022 1:51PM
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clindblomskier
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Farmville420Switch is also a skateboard term

Yeah but skiing isn’t a board sport, skateboard terms can’t be directly applied to it

why does skiing have to conform to board sport terms when it’s kind of a unique thing within extreme sports having 2 planks etc. this thread is stupid
Dec 28 2022 1:53PM
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theabortionator
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"I know what things are called in skateboarding so everything else is wrong"

Skateboard and skiing are kinda different. Sure skiing emulates skating and snowboard sometimes but they aren't the same. They can have different names.

Idk, I can never understand why people randomly get mad about trick names years later because something about skateboarding or another sport.

I say we come to a consession and call skiing backwards "non forward".
Dec 28 2022 1:54PM
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Farmville420
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AndrewGravesSVI feel like switch is different than fakie because of the difference of stances. There is goofy and regular stances for board sports and then fakie is the opposite of your normal foot stance. Nobody learns how to ski with their ass facing downhill so switch is the same for everyone.


Yeah but in skateboarding both reg and switch you are facing “forward”. I mean you can also see it in the tricks, when people do fakie shit usually they show more back, it’s the only thing that compares to being “backwards”.
Dec 28 2022 1:54PM
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eheath
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Farmville420Switch is also a skateboard term

Yeah but would you rather say 'backwards dub 1440'?

Fakie and cab both refer to things you can not do on skis, stop copying others and embrace something unique for skiing.
Dec 28 2022 1:58PM
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Farmville420
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theabortionator"I know what things are called in skateboarding so everything else is wrong"

Skateboard and skiing are kinda different. Sure skiing emulates skating and snowboard sometimes but they aren't the same. They can have different names.

Idk, I can never understand why people randomly get mad about trick names years later because something about skateboarding or another sport.

I say we come to a consession and call skiing backwards "non forward".


I’m talking fruit boot terms g! Which yes, a lot did also come from skating, but they have unique names for some stuff and it makes more sense, and also came wayyyy earlier than any skiing tricks.
Dec 28 2022 1:58PM
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Farmville420
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eheathYeah but would you rather say 'backwards dub 1440'?

Fakie and cab both refer to things you can not do on skis, stop copying others and embrace something unique for skiing.


I’m 100% down to rename everything I already have roughly half of the theoretical new names already drawn up, but if we’re gonna copy anyone i don’t know why we chose snowboarders to begin with
Dec 28 2022 2:01PM
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eheath
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Farmville420I’m 100% down to rename everything I already have roughly half of the theoretical new names already drawn up, but if we’re gonna copy anyone i don’t know why we chose snowboarders to begin with

Why would you change something people have been saying before you even skied?

It's called switch brother and honestly it's not a debate.
Dec 28 2022 2:03PM
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Farmville420
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eheathWhy would you change something people have been saying before you even skied?

It's called switch brother and honestly it's not a debate.


Eh, I mean my biggest struggle is trying to explain tricks to non-skiers. Plus they’re just words, and some can be universal. The whole switch thing is just one of the examples, there’s so many tricks that have different names in every sport despite being near identical for no reason.
Dec 28 2022 2:13PM
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Andi_G
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Farmville420Yeah but in skateboarding both reg and switch you are facing “forward”. I mean you can also see it in the tricks, when people do fakie shit usually they show more back, it’s the only thing that compares to being “backwards”.


Theres only one option for going forwards or backwards in skiing though cause you can only travel downhill. Then you can spin left or right.

I kinda cringe when people try and force skate lingo into skiing, like relax dude no one thinks youre cooler and its confusing people. I get ski trick names are derivative of skate/snowboarding but why change it when its widely accepted
Dec 28 2022 2:14PM
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cool270out
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Go do a switch frontslide fs 270 truck and call it a fakie fastslide fs 270 rocket and see what happens irl
Dec 28 2022 2:26PM
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OregonDead
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people were skiing for thousands of years before anyone even bothered to invent the wheel
Dec 28 2022 2:27PM
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eheath
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Farmville420Eh, I mean my biggest struggle is trying to explain tricks to non-skiers. Plus they’re just words, and some can be universal. The whole switch thing is just one of the examples, there’s so many tricks that have different names in every sport despite being near identical for no reason.


I mean ya they're just words so why should we change how everyone else says something cause you aren't very good at explaining a trick to a non skier?

And how would saying fakie or cab fix that? Cab means switch front side which for skiers would be switch unnatural spin, now it's more complicated and confusing for people who don't skateboard.

It goes both ways man.
Dec 28 2022 2:30PM
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KilaTsunami
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My natural stance is backwards. AMA
Dec 28 2022 2:37PM
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J-Dunn
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My only problem is when people have their legs together and call it truck driver. Deff got to spread those legs apart to drive truck. Used to be my local claim to fame and then I blew my MCL in the air kicking my feet out for the grab. I know fuckin athlete !
Dec 28 2022 2:44PM
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Slowbro
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A lot of skiing terms were sort of mistranslated from snowboarding / skateboarding, but at this point they are the correct terms and there's no point changing them. Like a lip 2 should be called a hardway 2 because that's what it is in every other sport (or truespin in blading when done into a plate trick), but it stuck so it's a lip 2.
Dec 28 2022 2:49PM
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hi_vis360
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Skiing isn’t skateboarding

it also isn’t rollerblading
Dec 28 2022 3:18PM
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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People downvoting this don’t know fucking shit. Todd Richards even talks about it on the bombhole
BradFiAusNzCoCaWhich harkens back to the skater Daniel Caballero, if my old foggy brain is remembering correctly
Dec 28 2022 3:30PM
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GrandThings
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Fakie krook on skis is the best trick IMO
Dec 28 2022 3:30PM
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asparagus
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I’ve heard ‘fastslide’ a lot but these are some oldhead ass takes
Dec 28 2022 3:37PM
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CT_CREW
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BradFiAusNzCoCaPeople downvoting this don’t know fucking shit. Todd Richards even talks about it on the bombhole


Is he the 2nd cousin of Steve Caballero?
Dec 28 2022 3:44PM
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snomaster
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rocket air is grabbing one side. truck driver is both hands on the wheel
Dec 28 2022 3:53PM
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BlueVillain
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Like this thread is gonna change a worldwide used word
Dec 28 2022 4:55PM
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Christian_Bale
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Gonna stick with convention for this one
Dec 28 2022 5:01PM
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dwt802
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The fast slide thing is all I can really get behind tbh
Dec 28 2022 5:21PM
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SteezyYeeter
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it's relative. most people call it switch (never heard fakie applied to skiing until newschoolers) and therefore it is.
Dec 28 2022 5:26PM
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lil.Boye
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Farmville420Switch is also a skateboard term


How does it make more sense to call it fakie not switch? Skating switch is when you are standing the other way on the board. Fakie is just the way you pop it going switch. Do you imply that when i do a switch lip 270, i am popping fakie and not switch? What makes it more fakie ollie than switch ollie?
Skating and skiing is not the same thing and doesn’t need to cross words this way. It’s just a word to tell what trick you are doing. Complicating it would be silly
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animator
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BradFiAusNzCoCaWhich harkens back to the skater Daniel Caballero, if my old foggy brain is remembering correctly


Isn’t it Steve cabellero? He did fakie backside 360s and people called them full cabs I thought that’s where it was from
Dec 28 2022 7:45PM
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Farmville420
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SlowbroA lot of skiing terms were sort of mistranslated from snowboarding / skateboarding, but at this point they are the correct terms and there's no point changing them. Like a lip 2 should be called a hardway 2 because that's what it is in every other sport (or truespin in blading when done into a plate trick), but it stuck so it's a lip 2.


This is kinda what I was getting at. Like why is it so heinous to use the words that make sense, which judging by everyone’s responses, because it’s too late? Is that the consensus here?
Dec 28 2022 8:00PM
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corona
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eheathIt's switch

It's the switch, actually.
Dec 28 2022 8:07PM
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milotv34
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Farmville420U got me I was thinkin dub nose not truck


What is stopping you from using the right words to describe tricks?? Im only 25% trolling. It irks me because its kinda lame of you to not know the history
Dec 28 2022 9:30PM
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skiP.E.I.
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Skiing backwards is just backwards. It doesn't translate to 'switch' or 'fakie' as it's known in skateboarding.
'Rocket' and 'Nose grab' are interchangeable.
I've never heard someone call a fast slide a front slide, but it makes sense someone would because a backslide is the back foot version.
Good luck undoing 20+ years of accepted terminology though.
Dec 28 2022 10:09PM
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g_lectrolyte
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animatorIsn’t it Steve cabellero? He did fakie backside 360s and people called them full cabs I thought that’s where it was from

Hot take if someone does an unnat switch three I will ski up and say "nice full cab". Sw unnnat 180 is a half cab. Those are the only two times id say cab in skiing.




i can see how "fakie" and "switch" both accurately describe skiing backward. But vast majority of ppl call it switch so it kinda stuck
Dec 28 2022 10:47PM
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skiP.E.I.
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On a related note I always find it hilarious hearing snowboarders try to name ski tricks lol. It seems like we know most of the snowboarding terms but they always say I'm doing 'combos' on rails, grabbing 'indy', doing 'half cabs' or 'full cabs' or a 'misty flip' for any invert.
Dec 28 2022 11:02PM
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NateDude
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ur a frickin' GEEK! take your oxoford comma and go spank your twat with it
Dec 29 2022 12:09AM
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jakeordie
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dumpster fire
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Slowbro
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Farmville420This is kinda what I was getting at. Like why is it so heinous to use the words that make sense, which judging by everyone’s responses, because it’s too late? Is that the consensus here?

Because the currently used terms all make sense to us and it comes off weird trying to change them, I just don't think it's necessary.
Dec 29 2022 12:50AM
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Lenny-
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KilaTsunamiMy natural stance is backwards. AMA

How's your neck doing?
Dec 29 2022 1:27AM
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TOAST.
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Wait...I thought we decided 10 years ago that we were going to start calling switch "ridin dirty"? Am I the only one that followed through?
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