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tri_photo
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$118 for a lift ticket at Snoqualmie.

$132 for a lift ticket at Stevens.

The audacity for these mountains to think they’re worth that just blows my mind. I just don’t understand it, even on ‘peak days’. These corporations don’t need to charge that high.. do they??

I know it sounds like a woe is me post, and to be honest, I guess it is. I’ll own that. Anybody else just bummed out by how much the checking account gets gouged now for the love of snow?
Dec 20 2022 10:33PM
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bogust
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The ski mountain industry overall is shifting its mentality towards skiing being something you pay a lot of money to do a few times a year the same way mall trampoline parks or go kart facilities operate. quite a few places have even started exclusively selling part day session tickets where you need to buy two or three tickets if you want to ski a whole day. I wouldn't be surprised if we even start seeing season passes being phased out at some mountains in the coming years.
Dec 20 2022 10:45PM
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milotv34
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bogustThe ski mountain industry overall is shifting its mentality towards skiing being something you pay a lot of money to do a few times a year the same way mall trampoline parks or go kart facilities operate. quite a few places have even started exclusively selling part day session tickets where you need to buy two or three tickets if you want to ski a whole day. I wouldn't be surprised if we even start seeing season passes being phased out at some mountains in the coming years.


Probably a good time to get a touring setup i guess
Dec 20 2022 10:55PM
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snowmosexual
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bogustThe ski mountain industry overall is shifting its mentality towards skiing being something you pay a lot of money to do a few times a year the same way mall trampoline parks or go kart facilities operate. quite a few places have even started exclusively selling part day session tickets where you need to buy two or three tickets if you want to ski a whole day. I wouldn't be surprised if we even start seeing season passes being phased out at some mountains in the coming years.


what places are doing that?
Dec 20 2022 11:20PM
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bogust
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snowmosexualwhat places are doing that?


Wachusett's started doing it for Covid but has continued because they realized their making more money
Dec 20 2022 11:47PM
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snowmosexual
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bogustWachusett's started doing it for Covid but has continued because they realized their making more money


one small hill in Massachusetts?
Dec 20 2022 11:51PM
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r00kie
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It's stupid. Got invited to go to Palisades this winter. Plan is to ski there one day to say we did and do Rose the other day or two. Then I saw that my one day at Palisades would cost more than my season at Bogus and will probably pass on this trip. How anyone will ever get into skiing when cost just to try it is this high is beyond me.
Dec 20 2022 11:52PM
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mynameisgiovanni
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That’s the American way man. Come to Europe, Portes du Soleil (one of the biggest ski areas in the world) is still only $51ish a day, and you don’t have to constantly deal with Americans. (Bants)
Dec 21 2022 4:53AM
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SoVT
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Strattons tickets are 189 a day for weekend/peak time. They do it to limit the number of day ticket skiers.


(Fuck)Epic and Ikon passes aren’t going anywhere. If anything they will double in price, cut the sales by 50% because people will say fuck that, and then they will sell more day tickets.


Goodluck to the small mountains cause they aren’t offering the benefits.

Magic Mtn sells a pass for almost 900 a year and they haven’t even spun a lift this year. I’d be beyond pissed and want my money back considering I have 10 days and 5 tours and have barely had time to ski.


I’ll ski 60 days at Stratton, 3 at palisades, 6 at steamboat and 3 at Jackson all for around $1100 in pass cost.
Dec 21 2022 5:28AM
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TOAST.
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r00kie. How anyone will ever get into skiing when cost just to try it is this high is beyond me.

I dont get what the industry is thinking, I know the sport has grown the past few years, but if you aren't in the know or plan months ahead it's absurd how expensive it is. My home hill used to have a night season pass that was very affordable, got tons of people into skiing, including myself, that wouldn't have done it otherwise. Nothing like that now, still open at night but it's always empty, when weeknights used to be one of the busiest times. I don't see anyone that doesn't have skier parents becoming skiers in my area now.
Dec 21 2022 6:55AM
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skierman
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Reported this post because its fucking dumb
Dec 21 2022 8:42AM
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tri_photo
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skiermanReported this post because its fucking dumb


Good thing I’ve never cared about what you’re opinions are
Dec 21 2022 8:46AM
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Goretex_Vidal
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mynameisgiovanniThat’s the American way man. Come to Europe, Portes du Soleil (one of the biggest ski areas in the world) is still only $51ish a day, and you don’t have to constantly deal with Americans. (Bants)

Budgeting ski trips the other day and it’s going to be cheaper for me to fly to Chile and roadtrip through the Andes next summer than spending a week at Palisades this winter.
Dec 21 2022 9:02AM
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skierman
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tri_photoGood thing I’ve never cared about what you’re opinions are


Complaining about lift tickets being expensive is like SUCH a hot take, dude. You're definitely onto a new and ground-breaking discussion here!
Dec 21 2022 9:08AM
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SofaKingSick
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r00kieIt's stupid. Got invited to go to Palisades this winter. Plan is to ski there one day to say we did and do Rose the other day or two. Then I saw that my one day at Palisades would cost more than my season at Bogus and will probably pass on this trip. How anyone will ever get into skiing when cost just to try it is this high is beyond me.


i hear you 100%, lift ticket prices are so bad these days i don't even like thinking about it. but i would suggest trying palisades if you can swing it. reallllllllll badass place
Dec 21 2022 9:21AM
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STEEZUS_CHRI5T
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Just go skiing with your Dad and everything is covered
Dec 21 2022 9:36AM
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IsaacNW82
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My understanding was that ski corporations, like everyone nowadays, are pushing towards a more subscription-like model (in this case mega-passes). The steady, non-conditions dependent revenue is just too appealing. So, to get you to get a pass they are cranking up lift tickets to obscene levels.

Vail is probably the worst offender: a day ticket for Christmas eve, window rate is $275. A full Epic pass bought early is $859, which works out to 3.1 peak holiday rate days at Vail. It makes sense for virtually nobody, even Texans who only ski four or five days a year, to buy day tickets.

On the flip side, if you travel a few times a year, put 30+ days in, and get a mega-pass, they actually tend to work out to being exceptionally cheap per day. But I agree, its madness, feels like you either pick the Ikon cult or the Epic cult and you can't afford to leave to visit any other mountain.
Dec 21 2022 9:57AM
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GayWolf420
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snowmosexualone small hill in Massachusetts?


Woodward properties have this for their indoor facilities but everything outside (skiing/biking) is all access passes, but I do see what he means.
Dec 21 2022 10:34AM
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muffMan.
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Bridger was closed today so thought about big sky

197 for a lift ticket, for fucks sake man these resorts suck now a days.
Dec 21 2022 12:21PM
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eheath
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Inflation + Covid + Capitalism = higher prices.

Maybe you haven't noticed, everything cost more money now.
Dec 21 2022 12:27PM
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tri_photo
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eheathInflation + Covid + Capitalism = higher prices.

Maybe you haven't noticed, everything cost more money now.


yes, Thank you Evan
Dec 21 2022 12:27PM
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eheath
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tri_photoyes, Thank you Evan


i was attempting to respond in a constructive way :)
Dec 21 2022 12:31PM
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TOAST.
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DeebieSkeebiesWoodward properties have this for their indoor facilities but everything outside (skiing/biking) is all access passes, but I do see what he means.

Resorts around me used to do 4 or 8 hour day passes. Most people only ski for 4 hours anyway. I don't see things shifting this way tho, if they do it will probably be cheaper for most people
Dec 21 2022 12:34PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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How to tell if someone bought a day ticket
Dec 21 2022 12:34PM
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tri_photo
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TRVP_ANGELHow to tell if someone bought a day ticket


Haven’t yet. The prices are playing the uno reverse card on how much I want to ski or not. Lol
Dec 21 2022 12:37PM
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tri_photo
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eheathi was attempting to respond in a constructive way :)



Dec 21 2022 12:38PM
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tri_photo
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tri_photoGood thing I’ve never cared about what you’re opinions are


Your* self-own
Dec 21 2022 12:41PM
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halfwatt
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i would pay $100 or more for a pretty much empty spring park day and that’s about it. skiing is stupid but I’ll never stop doing it.
Dec 21 2022 1:10PM
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skierman
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tri_photoHaven’t yet. The prices are playing the uno reverse card on how much I want to ski or not. Lol


Yeah man, skiing is expensive. You should consider a cheaper activity like chugging bleach.
Dec 21 2022 1:10PM
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bogust
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skiermanYeah man, skiing is expensive. You should consider a cheaper activity like chugging bleach.


bleach is stored in the balls
Dec 21 2022 1:36PM
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TOAST.
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skiermanYeah man, skiing is expensive. You should consider a cheaper activity like chugging bleach.

Hospital visits are more expensive than lift tickets. Any cheaper suggestions?
Dec 21 2022 1:38PM
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bennwithtwons
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honestly, if you want to be a skier and you have any budget restriction at all, you should expect to buy a pass for your local resort(s) and basically only ski there (+ BC if you're into it). If you think you're going to travel to other mountains to ski places where you don't have a pass and NOT spend a lot of money, that's on you
Dec 21 2022 1:46PM
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olddirty
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My shit little home mtn charges $75 for 4hrs and $80 for the day. I don't even go anymore.
Dec 21 2022 1:50PM
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bennwithtwons
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olddirtyMy shit little home mtn charges $75 for 4hrs and $80 for the day. I don't even go anymore.


can you get a pass? my local mountain is a bit more expensive but my season pass was 299
Dec 21 2022 1:56PM
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olddirty
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bennwithtwonscan you get a pass? my local mountain is a bit more expensive but my season pass was 299


Season pass I believe is around 1k
Dec 21 2022 1:57PM
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bennwithtwons
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olddirtySeason pass I believe is around 1k


yeah that is quite a bit actually. only $10/day if you can go 100 times though (although most people probably can't fit that many days in a season)
Dec 21 2022 2:06PM
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skierman
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TOAST.Hospital visits are more expensive than lift tickets. Any cheaper suggestions?


Chug enough bleach and you don't have to worry about hospital bills.
Dec 21 2022 5:29PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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snowmosexualone small hill in Massachusetts?


Blue mountain PA also has timed tickets. They only work for a specific amount of time and some only work at specific times. The normal one lasts 8 hours and the mountain is open 8am-9pm or 9am-9pm on weekdays, so if you wanted to ski all day you'd have to buy 2 and then waste 4 of those hours because you bought 16 hours but the place is only open for 12.
Dec 21 2022 5:54PM
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hi_vis360
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Black mountain of Maine is $15 on thursdays, $25 on fridays. Excellent east coast glade skiing and backcountry access
Dec 21 2022 6:00PM
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ajbski
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skiermanChug enough bleach and you don't have to worry about hospital bills.


Are you happy with the life you lead? Did saying that give you satisfaction?
Dec 21 2022 6:30PM
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skierman
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ajbskiAre you happy with the life you lead? Did saying that give you satisfaction?


I'm reporting this post for asking two questions in a row.
Dec 21 2022 6:37PM
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jprene8
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a_pla5tic_bagBlue mountain PA also has timed tickets. They only work for a specific amount of time and some only work at specific times. The normal one lasts 8 hours and the mountain is open 8am-9pm or 9am-9pm on weekdays, so if you wanted to ski all day you'd have to buy 2 and then waste 4 of those hours because you bought 16 hours but the place is only open for 12.


Dang you beat me to it. I was gonna bring up this specific example. I’m gonna be there next week and dreading how expensive an 8 hour day pass is to a smallish east coast hill. I think it’s something like between 120-105
Dec 21 2022 8:59PM
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b0ss
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Skiing is expensive.
Dec 21 2022 10:40PM
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theabortionator
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Was hyped checking out the local back in NY. Everything is more expensive but they're trying to do right by people. Also the couple that bought the place in 2012 kind of do everything themselves. She runs the the restaurant, ski, school, etc, He does all the on hill stuff. Grooms, makes snow, fixes the lift. Idk, it's a pretty small spot but it's cool to see it still accessible for learning. Too many places are impossible. If you don't already ski you probably never will. Kinda sucks.







LIFTS

FULL DAY
4 HOURS
Beg Hill


Adult (13-64)
$47
$39
$20


Junior (6-12), Senior (65-69)
$37
$29
$18


70+
$15
$15
$15


Under (5) with a ticketed adult
Free
Free
Free
Dec 21 2022 10:54PM
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partyandBS
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bogustThe ski mountain industry overall is shifting its mentality towards skiing being something you pay a lot of money to do a few times a year the same way mall trampoline parks or go kart facilities operate. quite a few places have even started exclusively selling part day session tickets where you need to buy two or three tickets if you want to ski a whole day. I wouldn't be surprised if we even start seeing season passes being phased out at some mountains in the coming years.


Epic and Ikon would love to move to a pass only product actually. you know how fuckin sick it is to get the majority of your money before you even open?? There is so much more financial stability in pass products. Day tickets are all speculation and subjective based on the condition especially for snowmaking, economic stability, PR things like chairlifts blowing off lines with guests on it etc. i would be extremely surprised to see anyone phase out season passes. I even think the outrageous day ticket prices are literally to push more guests to pass products. Breck will be $250 next week and they are even capping day sale tickets. They want you to get an epic/ikon pass. They want you to spread out the days you visit to be more mid week. They want you to subscribe to their pass products as you are less likely to spend your money elsewhere and also more likely to buy lessons, food, lodging, etc at their auxiliary outlets.
Dec 23 2022 1:50AM
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PsychicMigration
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bogustWachusett's started doing it for Covid but has continued because they realized their making more money


Wachusett's tickets are completely fucked its so fucking stupid. Used to run up and night ski since 4-10 was only $35 7/8 years ago now its like $90. Everyone I know has completely stopped going so I guess its down to locals and ritch assholes from Boston. Also the parks after moving from look mom to hitchcock started to suck comparably.

**This post was edited on Dec 24th 2022 at 11:38:46am
Dec 24 2022 11:35AM
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ASAPCarter
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I agree they’re definitely just trying to incentivize mega pass sales and phase out day tickets, which isn’t really a bad thing imo. If you plan on skiing more than 5 days a year at an alterra or epic resort it’s kinda a no brainer. Sure it sucks seeing the industry becoming so corporate, but overall it’s a pretty damn good deal for the consumer.
Dec 24 2022 1:49PM
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tri_photo
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ASAPCarterI agree they’re definitely just trying to incentivize mega pass sales and phase out day tickets, which isn’t really a bad thing imo. If you plan on skiing more than 5 days a year at an alterra or epic resort it’s kinda a no brainer. Sure it sucks seeing the industry becoming so corporate, but overall it’s a pretty damn good deal for the consumer.


At first glance, maybe. But at places like my local mountain, they have blackout dates for passholders now (???), On all the major holidays. So it’s not that they’re trying to phase out day tickets, they’re trying to just maximize when/how they gouge every skiers wallet individually. It’s a bummer.
Dec 24 2022 1:54PM
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TOAST.
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ASAPCarterI agree they’re definitely just trying to incentivize mega pass sales and phase out day tickets, which isn’t really a bad thing imo. If you plan on skiing more than 5 days a year at an alterra or epic resort it’s kinda a no brainer. Sure it sucks seeing the industry becoming so corporate, but overall it’s a pretty damn good deal for the consumer.

It's good for avid skiers, very bad for people just getting into it.
Dec 24 2022 4:30PM
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SoVT
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After reading more of this thread, I’m praying for higher prices. It will take care of keeping more of you nonworking woke ass track pant wearing beaters off the mtn. That’s the best part!
Dec 25 2022 7:34AM
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HypeBeast
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tri_photoGood thing I’ve never cared about what you’re opinions are

Downvoted for bad grammar.
tri_photoYour* self-own

Changed above to thumbs up.
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