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SteezyYeeter
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So what are your experiences with concussions?

I really want to push my skills with rotations and the past wednesday i hit my head trying to throw a 360. i'm not worried at all it was a concussion lol but it just got me thinking, how much until you might get one/can you tell when you get one?

tks in advance

also feel free to share any concussion stories :)
Nov 28 2022 7:37PM
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Vish-shoe
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SteezyYeeterSo what are your experiences with concussions?

I really want to push my skills with rotations and the past wednesday i hit my head trying to throw a 360. i'm not worried at all it was a concussion lol but it just got me thinking, how much until you might get one/can you tell when you get one?

tks in advance

also feel free to share any concussion stories :)


I got a pretty mild one at the end of last year, went back to skiing a week later against advice and still haven’t recovered fully.
Nov 28 2022 7:41PM
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Vish-shoe
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JITYI got a pretty mild one at the end of last year, went back to skiing a week later against advice and still haven’t recovered fully.


Also push into the tongues of your boots more when you do 360s, it helps a lot with landing upright.
Nov 28 2022 7:43PM
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ridgetop
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Several. The worst skiing one was from catching an outside edge while skiing backwards... I think as I was going to spin back around... onto my back and me head whipped backwards.
Nov 28 2022 8:02PM
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BigmoneyMatt
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If ur getting conked on 3's bro you should think about switching sports ngl
Nov 28 2022 8:05PM
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SteezyYeeter
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BrotherBIf ur getting conked on 3's bro you should think about switching sports ngl

hit the ground at 270 degrees and fell from there but lol i agree, probably sound like a total jerry here on a park forum

**This post was edited on Nov 28th 2022 at 8:13:09pm
Nov 28 2022 8:12PM
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BigmoneyMatt
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SteezyYeeterhit the ground at 270 degrees and fell from there but lol i agree, probably sound like a total jerry here on a park forum

**This post was edited on Nov 28th 2022 at 8:13:09pm


You should never fall on a 3.

Most people will tell you to throw your upper body around and your feet will follow, which is true assuming you are actually engaging your knees. Most shit skiers I see are just coasting around lazily, you gotta be in the moment or ur gunna get rocked. Fucking engage ur knees, Dont even think about your feet. Just knees, quads, shoulders. Pretend theres a triangular frame from head and shoulders. Don't throw your head throw that frame, spring with quads, quads load the knees.

A good skier can throw 7's with only quads and knees. So don't worry about core, don't worry about feet, hands are obvious, at sides balancing horizontally, your brain should do that auto. Hips start when you get into inverted rotations, core you can worry about when you want to start loading up for higher degrees.

**This post was edited on Nov 28th 2022 at 8:25:30pm
Nov 28 2022 8:22PM
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Dlonetti
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SteezyYeeterSo what are your experiences with concussions?

I really want to push my skills with rotations and the past wednesday i hit my head trying to throw a 360. i'm not worried at all it was a concussion lol but it just got me thinking, how much until you might get one/can you tell when you get one?

tks in advance

also feel free to share any concussion stories :)


You’re such an interesting new account. You troll and have these outlandish takes and then also randomly make genuine threads and comments. Props to you for using the forums at least I guess lmao
Nov 28 2022 8:32PM
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BigmoneyMatt
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DlonettiYou’re such an interesting new account. You troll and have these outlandish takes and then also randomly make genuine threads and comments. Props to you for using the forums at least I guess lmao


I don't even think he is a troll, just a high self esteem and no patience.
Nov 28 2022 8:40PM
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STEEZUS_CHRI5T
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You know you got one when there is a big flash at the point of contact.

When you're memory skips a second or two of the accident, that's when you got a good one.

I go to ski patrol every time just to get checked out or ask the liftee if my eyes are dilated
Nov 28 2022 9:08PM
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SteezyYeeter
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BrotherBI don't even think he is a troll, just a high self esteem and no patience.


lol i definitely do not have a high self esteem on a place like this (i will defend myself if i'm called a jerry). not sure where you're getting the no patience thing, i mean i wasn't good on my first day of skiing. took like 5-6 years before i could confidently ski any marked trail at a resort yk...
Nov 28 2022 9:10PM
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SteezyYeeter
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BrotherBYou should never fall on a 3.

Most people will tell you to throw your upper body around and your feet will follow, which is true assuming you are actually engaging your knees. Most shit skiers I see are just coasting around lazily, you gotta be in the moment or ur gunna get rocked. Fucking engage ur knees, Dont even think about your feet. Just knees, quads, shoulders. Pretend theres a triangular frame from head and shoulders. Don't throw your head throw that frame, spring with quads, quads load the knees.

A good skier can throw 7's with only quads and knees. So don't worry about core, don't worry about feet, hands are obvious, at sides balancing horizontally, your brain should do that auto. Hips start when you get into inverted rotations, core you can worry about when you want to start loading up for higher degrees.

**This post was edited on Nov 28th 2022 at 8:25:30pm


thanks for this. i don't think i've been engaging my knees as much as i should, i will try that next time.
Nov 28 2022 9:11PM
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GayWolf420
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I tried taking a medium-sized hip jump like a table top kinda like candide did in superpark and landed 20ft past the transition and really fucked myself up when I was like 17 or something. I do not recommend concussions or TBIs but helmets are a lot better nowadays with MIPS technology as well as other things. It's never going to prevent a concussion but it'll decrease the severity of a head injury for sure vs. not wearing one.
Nov 28 2022 9:23PM
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theabortionator
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Concussions are actually good for you. The science about them being bad is a lie. I found a study about it somewhere but I forgot where. Wait what were we talking about again? Oh hey. Do I know you? How's it going?
Nov 28 2022 9:28PM
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Kyguyy
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MIPS is my get out of jail free card! When you have a nasty fall and the MIPS activates, just get a new helmet and call it a day (and maybe get checked out.) Giro Ledges are essentially disposables haha.
Nov 28 2022 9:29PM
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SteezyYeeter
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theabortionatorConcussions are actually good for you. The science about them being bad is a lie. I found a study about it somewhere but I forgot where. Wait what were we talking about again? Oh hey. Do I know you? How's it going?


fr? nevermind then guys lol (i believe you on the study no need to provide the link)
Nov 28 2022 9:35PM
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OFF3P
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I don't remember exactly what happened but when i was in like 5-6th grade I was on top of all of my classes in high math and english pretty sure I was in pre-algebra. It was rigorous charter school, and I had all A's with the "hard" grading scales.
All that being said when I visited the pueblo ruins that summer and I hit my head severely on some rocks running, got a concussion and never felt the same again and that was almost 10 years ago. I never really did well in school since and I even retook Pre-calc and lower english classes and struggled to get an average gpa. Who knows if it has anything to do with that or not.
Nov 28 2022 9:41PM
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albinoboy
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Caught my brakes in the slush after landing a big jump switch last year. It was a nasty concussion. I was slurring my words, couldn’t read bc the words wouldn’t register. Ended up failing almost all my courses due to it. Take any and all head injuries seriously tho, even if you feel fine take it easy for a couple of days or weeks and go get checked out by patrol.
Nov 28 2022 9:48PM
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jompcock
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KyguyyMIPS is my get out of jail free card! When you have a nasty fall and the MIPS activates, just get a new helmet and call it a day (and maybe get checked out.) Giro Ledges are essentially disposables haha.


I wish they made a mips version of the Combyn since soft foam is better designed to handle multiple impacts.
Nov 28 2022 10:45PM
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d_kol
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SteezyYeeterSo what are your experiences with concussions?

I really want to push my skills with rotations and the past wednesday i hit my head trying to throw a 360. i'm not worried at all it was a concussion lol but it just got me thinking, how much until you might get one/can you tell when you get one?

tks in advance

also feel free to share any concussion stories :)


If you're questioning whether or not you got a concussion, there's a 11/10 chance you got a concussion. Period.
Nov 28 2022 10:58PM
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Farmville420
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Been concussed twice, once from a truck lif last year and once this year from a ski hitting the back of my head after bailing. Bought a bucket immediately, head injuries suck and aren’t worth it. Luckily both concussions were mild and healed fully in about a week. Still no chronic migraines or anything so I’d say that’s a win
Nov 28 2022 11:54PM
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Headache
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I’ve had about 10 now. Fully unconscious a few times where I don’t remember the whole day or week. I’ve had spots swimming across my vision for like two years now. A neurologist told me that ur brain can’t really recognize if it’s concussed so if ur suspicious or just feel a tiny bit off take it easy before it gets worse. It’d save y’a a lot of pain in the future
Nov 29 2022 3:32AM
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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I’ve had a few. Didn’t get them checked out like a should and didn’t always replace my helmet like I should but it was a different time. I recommend trying to avoid concussions.

MIPS is actually really cool and Sweet Protection offers you 40% off if you have a big crash in their helmet and need to replace your helmet. But MIPS will only do so much. A concussion is from your brain hitting your skull. Cant stop that.
KyguyyMIPS is my get out of jail free card! When you have a nasty fall and the MIPS activates, just get a new helmet and call it a day (and maybe get checked out.) Giro Ledges are essentially disposables haha.
Nov 29 2022 4:08AM
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b0ss
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neck strength is best for preventing concussions. Best neck strength builders are wrestlers. Neck bridges are good for strength and flexibility. Gotta good enough to touch ears or nose to the ground. Lateral raises with heavy weight is good too.

this fear is not just in your head. Its cause you found a weakness and your body is goin “aw hell naw bud”
Nov 29 2022 8:12AM
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KilaTsunami
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Ngl chief.. I don’t remember

**This post was edited on Nov 29th 2022 at 8:18:53am
Nov 29 2022 8:18AM
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olddirty
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Unfortunately you wont know you have one until your friend tells you to shut up for repeating yourself over and over. You can go to the hospital but from my experience its not worth the trip, they don't do anything to help (nothing they can do) they just tell you if you have one or not. After your first bad one you will know when you have a concussion because you wont be able to remember shit, feel dizzy, and you'll taste iron/blood in your mouth. You can determine if you have a concussion or not if your real with yourself and don't over react like most people do. I've been knocked out twice and have around 4 solid concussions under my belt, only 2 from skiing.
Nov 29 2022 11:08AM
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X_MEMESWERVE_XX
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From my experience is that you will either know right away and feel fucked up right after you bonk, or you will feel fine until a few hours later and then get hit like a bus.

I had one really shitty one my freshman year after a day in the backcountry where I crashed. I couldn't for the life of me remember how I ate it, but I felt totally normal the rest of the day until about 4 hours later I was walking to the cafeteria back on campus when it hit me like a truck. I felt like I forgot how to fucking walk, nausea was at 150% and I couldn't eat or else I felt like I'd vomit my guts out, went to the ER by advice of my homies and I was concussed as hell. I was bedridden for a week or so plus I got a stomach virus at the same time which was awful, 2 weeks of only eating eggo's and orange juice cuz it was all I could get down made me lose like 40 pounds, my sleep was shitty too, I highkey thought I was gonna die for a couple days of this ordeal. I didn't feel anywhere close to normal for at least a month and I ended up withdrawing from school and taking a year off cuz my mental state was revision skis and had a lot of post-concussive symptoms for a year or so after. If I even lightly bump my head anymore I get hella paranoid about being in this situation again.

My advice is always wear a helmet, I was even wearing a helmet when this shit went down and I still got one.... u rly can't be safe enough, replace your shit every 5 years or if you take a hit, buy the pricier MIPS helmet, do what you gotta do to keep safe, and push your limits at a pace that feels comfortable to you....

**This post was edited on Nov 29th 2022 at 11:51:59am
Nov 29 2022 11:50AM
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jprene8
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I’ve had about 4. Worst one was playing rugby on my team in hs, guy on. The other team had a cast on he tried to catch the ball missed and smacked me in the face. I felt fine just groggy and disoriented, come out of the game “pass” concussion protocol go back in and get subbed out when I couldn’t catch a routine pass. I watch the game film and I’m just unconscious laying on the field for 8-10 seconds, I thought I was only out for a sec or two. Luckily for me after all of my concussions I’ve felt totally fine after a week at most, but I’ve been lucky in that sense. Be careful if you feel like you’ve got one than rest for at least a few days. As some of the others have said a bad one can have lasting effects for months, years, or even for life so air on the side of caution.
Nov 29 2022 12:28PM
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olddirty
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forgot to mention is important to know how to fall even if its just a 360
Nov 29 2022 12:30PM
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Vish-shoe
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olddirtyforgot to mention is important to know how to fall even if its just a 360


I understand why, but how tf do you even learn that?
Nov 29 2022 12:36PM
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Lenny-
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A few years ago my roommate got a concussion on a blue. I guess they found him at the base of the mountain walking around aimlessly after someone reported the fall to patrol. He ended up in the hospital for like 8 hours with some heavy short term memory loss. Tbh it was pretty scary to see the dude not remember something you told him two minutes prior. We would have made fun of him for doing that on a blue but earlier that week one of our servers broke her arm on a bunny slope...
Nov 29 2022 12:38PM
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Schoess
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Buuutttt isn't as good as handling one big impact... Which is what's most important...
jompcockI wish they made a mips version of the Combyn since soft foam is better designed to handle multiple impacts.
Nov 29 2022 12:46PM
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Schoess
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Concussions are really serious. Once you get one, you're more prone to getting them again. If you go out skiing again before you have healed and you hit your head in the same spot as you did before it can fuck you up permanently. Like vege tales status.
Nov 29 2022 12:47PM
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Way*Mo
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I’ve had seven severe concussions and for sure 5-10 more mild ones. Plus who knows how many sub-concussive hits. All but one with a helmet.


They are the worst and I definitely have felt impacts to my cognitive function.


I would take almost any other injury over a concussion. I can simply land wrong now and give myself a headache and problems focusing.


Don’t play games with them
Nov 29 2022 1:25PM
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theabortionator
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I'm stoked I got a new mips helmet for this year. I should have a while ago but I was being poor. Smart choice would have been to do it. But better late than never.

Be careful on them head knocks, especially younger folks. You can bounce back pretty good, but if you don't let your brain heal and hit it again its not good. The smaller ones aren't so bad, or at least don't seem so bad at the time but it stacks up.

It's pretty scary and it can be pretty damn serious. My worst brain injury I had severe headaches for 6 months and occasionally beyond. I was more of a dick and easily put into a bad mood. Loud noised made my head hurt. One time close to when it happened I was in a grocery store all the sudden, and didn't know why I was there, how I got there. Freaked out a little, had keys in my pocket, found car and dipped.

Sometimes I'd be talking to people and then zone out for a second and see them looking at me and be like "wait were we just talking?"

Scary shit.

Be careful. Don't be paranoid. Live your life. But if you hit your head be mindful of the potential issues and give your brain some proper time to heal. It's always hard chilling out when you want to throw down in the park every day. You only get one brain though. Don't thrash it. Ill get off my soap box now lol
Nov 29 2022 4:04PM
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deelonmusk
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All good stuff here, concussions are scary, take them seriously.

Wear a helmet for sure. Not just a helmet, a properly-fitting helmet with no dents or prior crashes in it. And buckle your chin strap FFS. I saw a dude in the singles line with his helmet buckle undone, let him know about it, and he was like "it's for style points" dead serious. Like what

Also, you don't need to hit your head to land a concussion. You can get a concussion from landing on your ass, etc
Nov 29 2022 4:55PM
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Way*Mo
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I'll add to the list of precautions to take. I always wear a mouthguard now as well. You can get concussions from landing hard and kneeing your face or even just slapping your jaw together hard if you tighten it.
Nov 29 2022 4:58PM
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switchlip2
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I just got cleared to ski this past Wednesday from a traumatic brain injury/severe concussion that I got from hitting my head while mountain biking on august 7th. It was mt 5th concussion I’ve ever had. My first 4 were nothing compared to this one tho. I’m a completely different person since then and this has probably been the worst experience in my life. I didn’t get the bad symptoms until 2-3 weeks after I hit my head. I had a 2 month long headache. Would throw Atleast once a day. I couldn’t look at any screens without getting sick. I could barely eat and all I could do was lay in the dark. My ears still haven’t stopped ringing. I’ve skied only 4 days this season so far since opening day was the day I got cleared and it doesn’t feel the same. I don’t have the same balance on rails I used to have. I wish I could be the person I was before I hit my head
Nov 29 2022 6:08PM
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Skier_75
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2019 first day on a new mountain I decided I would straight line an open face, foggy day and I didn’t see the cat track ahead. Messed me up real good, took an ambulance back down to the ER. I had horrible short term memory for at least 6 months after that. My helmet was toast, probably wouldn’t have a head if I wasn’t wearing one. Wear a helmet, even if you think you’re too cool for it.
Nov 29 2022 7:25PM
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Lonely
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I've had a handful, most from other sports besides skiing. Only one really bad one. 4 diagnosed.

I do remember my old roommate getting a really bad one while snowboarding. Shit was fucked. Smart dude and he could barely do any classwork or remember anything for at least two weeks. Definitely, nothing to mess around with especially considering that they have a stacking effect.

If you hit your head hard, go to a doctor. The signs don't always pop up immediately and can be mistaken for a cold or not getting enough sleep when they hit you a few days later, and at that point, a lot of people don't even consider that bonking their head a few days ago could have caused it.

It happens to everyone at some point. If you hit hard, have a buddy drive you home or to the clinic. Don't pass out behind the wheel because "I feel fine"
Nov 29 2022 8:03PM
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Lonely
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JITYI understand why, but how tf do you even learn that?


I'd teach it in lessons. You push the person over stationary or at low speeds. Gets them to stop sticking out their arms and helps them realize that rolling towards the big strong parts of your body and maintaining momentum is not nearly as painful or scary as sticking an arm out or instantly arresting yourself.

Getting used to falling is good because usually trying to save it is going to end up worse then just controlling your fall and going down. Great skier at my local tried to stay up when he was going down, picked up speed as he stayed upright but out of control, and hit a tree. He did not survive. Sometimes falling IS being in control.
Nov 29 2022 8:09PM
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Kyguyy
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I don’t mind getting a new helmet since the one that gets destroyed is also filled with bad memories of getting bodied :(
jompcockI wish they made a mips version of the Combyn since soft foam is better designed to handle multiple impacts.
Nov 29 2022 11:19PM
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Kyguyy
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Yea there’s really no way to completely shield a concussion, but nerfing the fall as much as you can always helps! Concussions also teach very important lessons which will make you hopefully avoid making the same mistake twice.
BradFiAusNzCoCaI’ve had a few. Didn’t get them checked out like a should and didn’t always replace my helmet like I should but it was a different time. I recommend trying to avoid concussions.

MIPS is actually really cool and Sweet Protection offers you 40% off if you have a big crash in their helmet and need to replace your helmet. But MIPS will only do so much. A concussion is from your brain hitting your skull. Cant stop that.
Nov 29 2022 11:21PM
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olddirty
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JITYI understand why, but how tf do you even learn that?


Trial and error but mostly just body position awareness
Nov 30 2022 12:07PM
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Gourd
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I had one. Memory was wacky for a while, and I forgot how to spell my name once lol
Nov 30 2022 12:19PM
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mott
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concussions are actually propoganda by big helmet corp the media wont tell you this
Nov 30 2022 10:46PM
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IsaacNW82
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Don't mess with em, full stop. There's a lot of injuries I don't care that I probably didn't let heal fully, concussions are totally different. Lots of us have gotten one, drank on it, went back skiing too early, etc etc and regretted it. You get a few easy ones, but once you've had a few bad ones it only gets worse and worse, and the science behind exactly how they heal isn't very good either (any Tahnee Seagrave fans here?)

Get a good helmet (can't go wrong with Giro ledge MIPS), take time off if you hit your head hard, and if you are really worried start using a mouthguard. It's not like other injuries that might make sports hard, it changes your mind forever. CTE ain't nothing to fuck with.
Dec 2 2022 11:13AM
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RyanDub
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Until you get 10+ concussions you’ll be fine. They’re no fun but the first few will suck for a while and get better. After a lot they can leave more permanent damage. Just practice 3s more and you won’t fall on them.
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