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T.L.Don't get into it for the money. There isn't a ton to make in the field. Even at larger resorts/corps that usually means the area will have crazy high cost of living.
As a park manager you're going to be in a position to do a little bit, and in most cases, a lot a bit of everything. Grooming, building/shaping, snowmaking, welding/fabricating, events, social media... It's good to be proficient doing all those things but it's just as important to build a team that is as well. You need to be able to go home and sleep and not worry about if things are being done right while you're away from work.
Emphasize to the person interviewing you that you'd be eager to learn as much as you can across the mountain operations departments. Your goal as a mtn ops department manager should be to build a competent, cohesive, professional team that will put the resorts best interests and safety first.
theabortionatorYeah def try and cross train as much as possible like Tom said. You moght not need to make snow for the parks ever yourself, but knowong how it works will help you get your guns set up right, know how much anow you need, whats realistic for temps etc.
Also just being able to do a few different things makes you much more valuable to the mtn.
If you want to do summers can get into running some equipment for the mtn, mtn biking, snomaking, whatever. You can do it as a seasonal job too.
Def don't do it for the money, but i think thats obvious. Pay is actually getting better in the ski industry though which is good to see. Not great but better.
Def can't stress the team thing enough. Its good to have good people around. We have s small crew at the mtn Im at now but been more solid every year. I fucked up my leg and missed a bunch this fall. Just started work. One of our guys who was new to parks last yeat but a good worker did 3/4 of rail refab with me. He was able to get in and do a bunch of stuff while I was gone. I didn't stress it. He knows what he's doing.
Def if people are good workers teach them shit, give them new chances. Some places I work wouldnt teach anybody. They didn't want people to get better. Other places will teach you anything, those places usually do better and the staff is more hyped.
Have you run a snow cat at all? Def worth getting in and doing some ridealongs if not. Good to learn and also help show the person where you want things.
Would be a while before you were useful grooming the park if you're new but it helps to learn. I mean why not learn. Also like snowmaking helps with making requests to know what goes on out there. And building a relationship with whoever does groom for you.
It's a cool gig and you can have a big impact on the parks at the mtn.
Good luck!
TimbyDon’t have the time to give a fully reply rn but have you ever ran a snowcat? I can run a skid pretty well but never a snowcat, would you happen to know if they’re similar? I doubt it’s rocket science.
TimbyThanks for the input here. I'm definitely not thinking of it because of the money lmao, but I think it would be a dope seasonal job for me a college kid. I'm practically there at the park almost every day during the season so getting paid for something similar to that would be ideal. It almost seems like a dream to me to manage a park.
I guess the only concern here is getting burnt out. (Assuming you were one) Did you enjoy skiing less because you were a park manager? I just feel like I could get burnt out from learning the insides of the industry and slaving away on days I don't even feel like it.
Thanks again, kinda hard to find testimonies on a job like this.
**This post was edited on Oct 30th 2022 at 3:09:52pm
theabortionatorKind of. I think Tom ran a skid steer a bunch before junping in a cat. I think I'd ran one like once.
Any piece of equipment helps. Ski steer def helps. It's going to be a lot different snd a lot of stuff going on
It's not necessarily hard as much as complicated and there's a lot of shit going on. Just takes time to get comfortable with everything so you can focus on the job.
I'm in a cat primarily these days. I like it. Running the park as well but in a cat all the time at night. I like it. Not for everyone but I like it.
PsychicMigrationCollage plus skiing is way different then college plus park manager that would have bent me over while I was in school. Not that you won’t enjoy it but how much will you be able to reasonably ski instead of working outside of school while in that position? Late nights in a cat and snowmaking doesn’t sound to bad but with a 8am class no way. Really it comes down to how much time you have to allocate to school depending on how difficult a major or year in school you are. Good luck with the interview.
TimbyGood point. Had a pre-interview today and the interviewer brought that up. I'm thinking of taking a lower class load to accomodate this, because I think this is a huge opportunity for me.
TimbyGood point. Had a pre-interview today and the interviewer brought that up. I'm thinking of taking a lower class load to accomodate this, because I think this is a huge opportunity for me.
PsychicMigrationSchool is also important though and taking few less credits can impact a lot more. You don't want to pay out of pocket for summer or winter term especially out of state. Depending on how difficult your degree is plays in a lot to this. If you really want to to use it then this probably isn't something you want to ditch out on taking normal amount of classes for. we're young man enjoy the hill as a skier and have more time to ski. There's plenty of time to do this sort of work the rest of your life. On the other hand if you really want to go for it then do it. my experience in school was that overshooting what I thought I could do was stressful and made for lot less free time to focus on school and skiing myself as well as staying in a good head space. That time is important to your mental state.
TimbyThanks for the reality check. I talked to some close people of mine and they say the same. Some say to do it because of my passion but the other contingency is my schoolwork, as it is paramount that I keep my GPA high as I am planning on law school. I've been playing with the concept of becoming a park manager because it just sounds so dope. I've been obsessing over the idea the last couple of days and its made me nervous about receiving an offer, so this really helped calm those nerves. Thanks man.
**This post was edited on Nov 1st 2022 at 12:23:15pm
theabortionatorRealistically it may not be worth it. Especially if you're trying to go to law school. Might be best to just work a mote casual park job with less responsibility. Still get some of the same stuff out of it, ski a bunch without as much commitment.
Especially if you're going to be doing years of school and taking s different path.
TimbyGood points all around, only thing is I just feel like this opportunity is limited. I don't really see myself ever getting a job like this in the future, so I obviously don't want to miss out on it.
theabortionatorYeah I feel you. What difference does it really make if you're hand crew or the park manager.
Also what mtn is this, or even how big is it. How many park staff employed?
Working park crew is sick af. It's not really that much better to be manager other than more of a time suck, more responsibilities, more paperwork.
If it's a small hill with a couple staff it could def work. But still. Even with the most minimal responsibilities it moght be better to just work day staff. Also then if you need to cut down hours if something comes up for school it'd be way more seemless.
I guess I'm just trying to say thay being park manager is cool and all but not that cool. Being on day staff when you're college age is mad fun. I met a lot of cool people, had fun building, and got plenty of laps in.
I think you'll get plenty of what you want out of thay without as much time commitment. Especially if you're trying to go to law school after this. If you were going down the resort path for a while I'd say send it and use it as a stepping stone but you have a career psth in mind it seems which is good, you just don't need a park manager job to get there. If you're doing serious schooling, stay serious about the schooling.
What draws you to want to be park manager so much more than normal day staff btw?
TimbyIts just a local tiny local hill here in the midwest, nothing crazy at all. the only notable feature they have is the park, as it drives of attention.
the only real driver here to want a manager position is the added responsibility. hiring/designing builds/scheduling all seems super fun in the context of skiing. ive just always been a little worker bee, so this stuck out. that question really made me reflect a lot, in a good way. i think just being a build worker / crewmate would honestly be the most sensible decision after reviewing all of this. i appreciate your input here, the prospect of this is a lot less attractive now. ill keep updated with anything relevant.