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Ski Maintenance (Bdog edgeless specifically)

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Dlonetti
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Never been good at taking care of my skis, but want to start. What are your go to tools to have for repair/tuning? I want to be able to wax my own skis and fix little things. Whats the best kind of epoxy to have? And whats the best to get for detuning/filing?

Specifically for my bdog edgeless, what have people done to keep the "edges" smooth? After a few days of riding there are some chunks now, could I just file it down?
Oct 27 2022 11:52AM
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dkels
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Iron, wax, p-tex, razor, and gummy stone (not for you since you don't have edges) will take you pretty far in your ski maintenance career. If you end up doing it a lot, getting some kind of vice is the cherry on top. The key bonus of regularly maintaining your skis is that the process forces you to regularly inspect the whole ski - hopefully you will catch small problems before they turn into big problems by doing so.
Oct 27 2022 12:12PM
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weastcoat
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DlonettiWhats the best kind of epoxy to have?


WEST SYTEMS G/flex 650 is a toughened, versatile, liquid epoxy for permanent waterproof bonding of fiberglass, ceramics, metals, plastics, damp and difficult-to-bond woods. With a modulus of elasticity of 150,000 PSI, it is a bit more flexible than standard epoxies and polyester, but much stiffer than adhesive sealants. This gives it the ability to make structural bonds that can absorb the stress of expansion, contraction, shock, and vibration. It is ideal for bonding dissimilar materials. It can be modified with WEST SYSTEM fillers and additives and used to wet-out fiberglass tapes and fabrics. Mixed at a 1:1 ratio, this 2-part epoxy gives you 46 minutes of pot life at 72°F and an open (working) time of 60-75 minutes. It reaches an initial cure in 3 to 4 hrs and a workable cure in 7-10 hours.
Oct 27 2022 2:03PM
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Quaggy
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weatcoastWEST SYTEMS G/flex 650 is a toughened, versatile, liquid epoxy for permanent waterproof bonding of fiberglass, ceramics, metals, plastics, damp and difficult-to-bond woods. With a modulus of elasticity of 150,000 PSI, it is a bit more flexible than standard epoxies and polyester, but much stiffer than adhesive sealants. This gives it the ability to make structural bonds that can absorb the stress of expansion, contraction, shock, and vibration. It is ideal for bonding dissimilar materials. It can be modified with WEST SYSTEM fillers and additives and used to wet-out fiberglass tapes and fabrics. Mixed at a 1:1 ratio, this 2-part epoxy gives you 46 minutes of pot life at 72°F and an open (working) time of 60-75 minutes. It reaches an initial cure in 3 to 4 hrs and a workable cure in 7-10 hours.

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Oct 27 2022 3:23PM
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Quaggy
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This is my tuning equipment OP:
Three wax scrapers (only need one), sticks of P-tex, thick rubber bands (to hold brakes put of the way), a swix edge file, three different brushes (base/prep/polish), an iron, a vise, g/flex 650 epoxy, a posi-drive screwdriver, and clamps.
I'd consider this middle of the pack when it comes to ski maintenance, all you really need is a scraper, an iron and some wax. Though a vise really does help, but can be speedy at easily $100+
Oct 27 2022 3:37PM
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weastcoat
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QuaggyThis is my tuning equipment OP:
Three wax scrapers (only need one), sticks of P-tex, thick rubber bands (to hold brakes put of the way), a swix edge file, three different brushes (base/prep/polish), an iron, a vise, g/flex 650 epoxy, a posi-drive screwdriver, and clamps.
I'd consider this middle of the pack when it comes to ski maintenance, all you really need is a scraper, an iron and some wax. Though a vise really does help, but can be speedy at easily $100+


I like this image for one reason. That reason is it contains WEST SYSTEMS G/flex 650 is a toughened, versatile, liquid epoxy for permanent waterproof bonding of fiberglass, ceramics, metals, plastics, damp and difficult-to-bond woods. With a modulus of elasticity of 150,000 PSI, it is a bit more flexible than standard epoxies and polyester, but much stiffer than adhesive sealants. This gives it the ability to make structural bonds that can absorb the stress of expansion, contraction, shock, and vibration. It is ideal for bonding dissimilar materials. It can be modified with WEST SYSTEM fillers and additives and used to wet-out fiberglass tapes and fabrics. Mixed at a 1:1 ratio, this 2-part epoxy gives you 46 minutes of pot life at 72°F and an open (working) time of 60-75 minutes. It reaches an initial cure in 3 to 4 hrs and a workable cure in 7-10 hours.
Oct 27 2022 3:38PM
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Quaggy
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weatcoastI like this image for one reason. That reason is it contains WEST SYSTEMS G/flex 650 is a toughened, versatile, liquid epoxy for permanent waterproof bonding of fiberglass, ceramics, metals, plastics, damp and difficult-to-bond woods. With a modulus of elasticity of 150,000 PSI, it is a bit more flexible than standard epoxies and polyester, but much stiffer than adhesive sealants. This gives it the ability to make structural bonds that can absorb the stress of expansion, contraction, shock, and vibration. It is ideal for bonding dissimilar materials. It can be modified with WEST SYSTEM fillers and additives and used to wet-out fiberglass tapes and fabrics. Mixed at a 1:1 ratio, this 2-part epoxy gives you 46 minutes of pot life at 72°F and an open (working) time of 60-75 minutes. It reaches an initial cure in 3 to 4 hrs and a workable cure in 7-10 hours.

Oct 27 2022 4:40PM
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weastcoat
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Quaggy


Thank you I was looking for this in my camera roll and couldn’t find it
Oct 27 2022 5:03PM
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GYRO_LTD
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Not going to lie, I use the 2$ epoxy at dollarama for my delams.
Oct 27 2022 5:12PM
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nmwninjart
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You could use a razor or knife to trim the big chunks and then file the rough spots smooth again to match the rest of the "edge"

A thing to keep in mind is waxing skis is kinda messy. Have a shop vac or broom and dustpan close by. Clean up as soon as you're done because tracking wax scrapings into and through the house sucks.
Oct 27 2022 7:35PM
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Dlonetti
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Appreciate the good advice and the memes
Oct 27 2022 11:16PM
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weastcoat
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DlonettiAppreciate the good advice and the memes


Fr tho I would just make sure nothings sticking out, snagging on the snow or whatever. Fill in any holes or gaps with epoxy. Don’t let the base peel away from sidewall.

Let me know how it goes I’ve never seen what the underfoot of the bdog edgeless looks like after a season.
Oct 28 2022 12:10AM
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JChockey22
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Please dont bite my head off ...but is that ski meant for skiing a park on a mountain or is just meant for skiing in unconventional areas like urban areas? very interesting ski?
Oct 28 2022 12:22AM
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Grantito
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JChockey22Please dont bite my head off ...but is that ski meant for skiing a park on a mountain or is just meant for skiing in unconventional areas like urban areas? very interesting ski?


Both, anywhere you wouldn’t want an edge to catch and wouldn’t really need one to stop.
Oct 28 2022 7:12AM
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Dlonetti
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JChockey22Please dont bite my head off ...but is that ski meant for skiing a park on a mountain or is just meant for skiing in unconventional areas like urban areas? very interesting ski?


I got it for urban this year, but its actually been a really fun ski for preseason park/soft snow. Real light and bendy
Oct 28 2022 9:42AM
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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Someone should enlighten sal that he is a ski meme
Quaggy
Oct 28 2022 2:54PM
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jompcock
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Most of what I generally use was mentioned above. Get a pozi socket bit and socket wrench. Makes pulling bindings off so much easier than using a screwdriver.
Oct 28 2022 10:12PM
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WestSystemsGFlex
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so true
weatcoastWEST SYTEMS G/flex 650 is a toughened, versatile, liquid epoxy for permanent waterproof bonding of fiberglass, ceramics, metals, plastics, damp and difficult-to-bond woods. With a modulus of elasticity of 150,000 PSI, it is a bit more flexible than standard epoxies and polyester, but much stiffer than adhesive sealants. This gives it the ability to make structural bonds that can absorb the stress of expansion, contraction, shock, and vibration. It is ideal for bonding dissimilar materials. It can be modified with WEST SYSTEM fillers and additives and used to wet-out fiberglass tapes and fabrics. Mixed at a 1:1 ratio, this 2-part epoxy gives you 46 minutes of pot life at 72°F and an open (working) time of 60-75 minutes. It reaches an initial cure in 3 to 4 hrs and a workable cure in 7-10 hours.
Feb 9 2023 11:00AM
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