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muffMan.
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drop any bad experiences with brands/merchandise that you highly do not recommend.

First one are armada suspenders, shit lasted like 3 ski days and straps fell off. Arcade suspenders kill it for quality.

And a given but montec, looks dumb but jacket sucks so hard. Mentioned because I see it recommended around here.
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Koshermilk
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I hate montec with a passion
3 years ago
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Zurg
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Line.... typical line quality. Blown sidewall in 5 days of mediocre park skiing. #TWPROFORTHEW
3 years ago
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TroyBallsack
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tyrolia attack brakes, i get it theyre brakes and theyre doing their job but whenever i fuck up landing switch they bend really easily and I end up goin through at least 2 per season. maybe its just a skill issue tho
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Quaggy
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You shouldn't touch Revision with a 12ft pole
3 years ago
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bsurf
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Coleg55First one are armada suspenders, shit lasted like 3 ski days and straps fell off.

mine are holding up pretty well after 2 seasons
3 years ago
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asparagus
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bsurfmine are holding up pretty well after 2 seasons

Mine have held for 2 seasons but I fell straight on the buckle once and it broke. Imo suspender lifetime depends on where you attach the buckles.
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b_in_subtle
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Reckoner 102s, crazy fun ski but mine exploded in like half a season and I didn’t even ride park after the first weekend (dislocated a shoulder). Separated the base from the ski underfoot and tips/tails where the sidewall goes to full cap on both skis by mid feb.
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muffMan.
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bsurfmine are holding up pretty well after 2 seasons


asparagusMine have held for 2 seasons but I fell straight on the buckle once and it broke. Imo suspender lifetime depends on where you attach the buckles.

Yeah I had them break twice on me before I gave up on them. Both times it was the buckle. But the arcade suspenders are crazy nice, the buckle is super tough as well, and have lasted more than twice the amount of days as the armadas
b_in_subtleReckoner 102s, crazy fun ski but mine exploded in like half a season and I didn’t even ride park after the first weekend (dislocated a shoulder). Separated the base from the ski underfoot and tips/tails where the sidewall goes to full cap on both skis by mid feb.

Yeah the 102s were super cool, gf had them but my 112s are going similar to what you have going on.
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b_in_subtle
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Coleg55Yeah I had them break twice on me before I gave up on them. Both times it was the buckle. But the arcade suspenders are crazy nice, the buckle is super tough as well, and have lasted more than twice the amount of days as the armadas

Yeah the 102s were super cool, gf had them but my 112s are going similar to what you have going on.


I have a pair of the 112s too that I got for like 280 that I just have as a pow ski that hopefully will be okay if I only use them in soft snow.
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muffMan.
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b_in_subtleI have a pair of the 112s too that I got for like 280 that I just have as a pow ski that hopefully will be okay if I only use them in soft snow.


Yeah I got a beater that I’ve been using as a rock/ early season ski.

gonna throw some frames and end it’s life probably this year. Super fun ski however, and kills it in pow but was still somewhat stable in choppier stuff
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Christian_Bale
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Seen a few reckoners get destroyed by rails after a relatively short time. Would probably avoid if that's what you'll be doing with them.

If you're old enough to be on this website you're probably too old for Squires lol. I had a lot of issues with the brakes while riding switch. Heard it's a common issue
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Christian_Bale
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@muffMan. just peeped your profile and saw that you ride reckoners. Didn't mean to diss your choice of skis but I'm curious how they've held up in your experience
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brownetown
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This might be beating a dead horse but my saga pants barely lasted half a season before being riddled with rips in annoying areas like knee, crotch, etc.
3 years ago
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xonskier78
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Harlaut snow apperal. Pants and jackets quality are shit af for the price you have to pay.
3 years ago
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powpatrol
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xonskier78Harlaut snow apperal. Pants and jackets quality are shit af for the price you have to pay.

your not allowed to say that here
3 years ago
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skierman
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xonskier78Harlaut snow apperal. Pants and jackets quality are shit af for the price you have to pay.


I do not trust the opinion of someone who tries to make their 3-year-old child famous in instagram. You're a fucking horrible person.
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muffMan.
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Christian_Bale@muffMan. just peeped your profile and saw that you ride reckoners. Didn't mean to diss your choice of skis but I'm curious how they've held up in your experience

Haha nah it was my beater pow ski. Never took it on rails, it’s fun but has that reckoner issue too.

replacing it with some bibbys I got for this year

brownetownThis might be beating a dead horse but my saga pants barely lasted half a season before being riddled with rips in annoying areas like knee, crotch, etc.


what year saga? My pants and jackets from 2012 are still mint, but comparing it to my gfs saga that was more recent, the quality isn’t there

**This post was edited on Oct 26th 2022 at 9:38:02am
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skiP.E.I.
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Any Head product I've used. Skis, boots, bags all cracked and started falling apart within days.
Their rental equipment has a great system that is intuitive to set up and good shapes for beginners though.
3 years ago
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Koshermilk
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b_in_subtleReckoner 102s, crazy fun ski but mine exploded in like half a season and I didn’t even ride park after the first weekend (dislocated a shoulder). Separated the base from the ski underfoot and tips/tails where the sidewall goes to full cap on both skis by mid feb.


I had 2 pairs of Reckoner 102’s, easily some of the most fun skis I’ve ridden, but the first pair the tip snapped and the second the sidewall blew up. Good warrenty policy though ;)
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b_in_subtle
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KoshermilkI had 2 pairs of Reckoner 102’s, easily some of the most fun skis I’ve ridden, but the first pair the tip snapped and the second the sidewall blew up. Good warrenty policy though ;)


Yeah they were great, they got me a full refund and the rep gave me a pro code as well so I was able to get 2 new skis (rec 112 and poachers). K2 has been great to me in terms of service.
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TreyDudski
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b_in_subtleReckoner 102s, crazy fun ski but mine exploded in like half a season and I didn’t even ride park after the first weekend (dislocated a shoulder). Separated the base from the ski underfoot and tips/tails where the sidewall goes to full cap on both skis by mid feb.


Just recently had to sell mine, wish k2 could get their shit together and make this ski indestructible
3 years ago
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dognutsdogfart
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my reckoners have not yet exploded but i have only skied them on boxes/rails for like 3 days and a lot of all mountain stuff the rest of the year

everyone whose skis exploded did you have the edges detuned? or was it more of a delam issue in the tips/tails?
3 years ago
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Burrito
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Atomic's factory tune. They're a race company, I get it, but out of the box my Bent Chetler 120s had edges sharp enough to easily slice up my fingers while I was mounting them. If you get a new pair of Bents and don't plan on making a run at becoming the next FIS World Cup champ, detune them immediately.
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Koshermilk
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dognutsmy reckoners have not yet exploded but i have only skied them on boxes/rails for like 3 days and a lot of all mountain stuff the rest of the year

everyone whose skis exploded did you have the edges detuned? or was it more of a delam issue in the tips/tails?


Heavily detuned both pairs I had, not even a delam issues, it seriously was just the ski itself just giving out, the core, the sidewall. Also not shitting on the skis at all, cause I actually love them



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dognutsdogfart
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KoshermilkHeavily detuned both pairs I had, not even a delam issues, it seriously was just the ski itself just giving out, the core, the sidewall. Also not shitting on the skis at all, cause I actually love them





yea wow she just gave out


i guess you just shred way harder or weight more than me… or a defect

hoping mine dont break as they are seriously one of the most fun and versatile skis i have ever had
3 years ago
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xonskier78
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Well a guy created it and I am just telling my personal opinion and I am pretty sure I am not the only one with that thoughts. If you cant agree with me, ok so it is.
skiermanI do not trust the opinion of someone who tries to make their 3-year-old child famous in instagram. You're a fucking horrible person.
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KootenayRipper69
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Line skis. I had a pair of sick days maybe 4-5 years ago, decent skis but were thrashed after 4 days of skiing. Called line to see if something was wrong with them or if I could get a refund. Was told “they should look like you took a hammer to them around 3-5 days of skiing.” Haven’t bought anything from Line since.
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c-fries
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KootenayRipper69Line skis. I had a pair of sick days maybe 4-5 years ago, decent skis but were thrashed after 4 days of skiing. Called line to see if something was wrong with them or if I could get a refund. Was told “they should look like you took a hammer to them around 3-5 days of skiing.” Haven’t bought anything from Line since.


Is the line hate here mostly referring to top sheet damage?

Because I’ve owned multiple pairs of line skis and tbh the only unusual problem early on is top sheet stuff. But never anything functional (sidewall / edge damage / delam) in 4-5 days of skiing.. that seems a little aggressive
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skierman
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xonskier78Well a guy created it and I am just telling my personal opinion and I am pretty sure I am not the only one with that thoughts. If you cant agree with me, ok so it is.


I'm surprised you have the time to post when you're so busy whoring your child out on instagram.
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Jstrong9
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Christian_Bale@muffMan. just peeped your profile and saw that you ride reckoners. Didn't mean to diss your choice of skis but I'm curious how they've held up in your experience


After ten days of skiing the reckoners I delaminated the side wall, no skiing on rails, just jumps, butters, and one very backseat cliff landing that I rode away from. about 30 days on them and they delamed in several other places by the end of the season. fun ski but durability real bad, and several others I know delamed them in the same amount of time
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jompcock
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Armada outerwear is overpriced af for what it is. My armada pants are like $300 msrp and were filled with holes after a few days, vents let air through when closed, pockets are too wide and let my phone turn sideways which was annoying. Zipper on my jacket sucks ass, the little pull tabs ripped off within a week.

I now use a generic $45 waterproof anorak and good god is it so much better as a shell. I get Jiberish and TallT put their branding on that shell.
skiP.E.I.Any Head product I've used. Skis, boots, bags all cracked and started falling apart within days.
Their rental equipment has a great system that is intuitive to set up and good shapes for beginners though.

Got a past seasons pair of caddys (2016) on sale for like $250 that lasted like 50ish days of park skiing, edge ripped out and yolo'd a warranty expecting to get told to fuck off. They gave me a pair of the next years skis (2018) in feb 2017. Lasted another 50ish days of park skiing and then I got Vishnus and every remotely cambered park ski felt like shit so I pulled the bindings off and put them on some bump skis.
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elm.
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I've had hit or miss luck from binding freedom. Pulled out 3 inserts from just unscrewing the binding, but may have just been a poor mounting job. It was the only one I didn't mount myself.
3 years ago
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rodwavefan
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b_in_subtleReckoner 102s, crazy fun ski but mine exploded in like half a season and I didn’t even ride park after the first weekend (dislocated a shoulder). Separated the base from the ski underfoot and tips/tails where the sidewall goes to full cap on both skis by mid feb.


Mine did the same thing, got a new pair coming in on warranty
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Christian_Bale
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Jstrong9After ten days of skiing the reckoners I delaminated the side wall, no skiing on rails, just jumps, butters, and one very backseat cliff landing that I rode away from. about 30 days on them and they delamed in several other places by the end of the season. fun ski but durability real bad, and several others I know delamed them in the same amount of time

Some who has rode several pairs told me they're the most fun skis he's ridden but they just shit the bed in terms of durability. For the record my poachers held up super well so idk what's going on at K2
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skiP.E.I.
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jompcockArmada outerwear is overpriced af for what it is. My armada pants are like $300 msrp and were filled with holes after a few days, vents let air through when closed, pockets are too wide and let my phone turn sideways which was annoying. Zipper on my jacket sucks ass, the little pull tabs ripped off within a week.

I now use a generic $45 waterproof anorak and good god is it so much better as a shell. I get Jiberish and TallT put their branding on that shell.

Got a past seasons pair of caddys (2016) on sale for like $250 that lasted like 50ish days of park skiing, edge ripped out and yolo'd a warranty expecting to get told to fuck off. They gave me a pair of the next years skis (2018) in feb 2017. Lasted another 50ish days of park skiing and then I got Vishnus and every remotely cambered park ski felt like shit so I pulled the bindings off and put them on some bump skis.


I had the same Caddys and they lasted 4 days before the edges started to separate from the base and sidewall. Tried to get them warrantied and they said there was 'rail damage' and therefore the warranty was void. I hadn't hit any rails on the skis yet at that point. My head boots also developed a crack that spread from the toe buckle across the whole toe box. One of the power straps ripped in half and the pull up straps on the backs of the boots both ripped off.
A few years later I had a job managing a snow school and the head rep was suddenly interested in helping me out. I explained the prior situation. I was told they would hook me up with new skis and boots, but they completely flaked on that too.
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PsychicMigration
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xonskier78Harlaut snow apperal. Pants and jackets quality are shit af for the price you have to pay.


ohhh that’s gonna draw some attention
3 years ago
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Farmville420
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xonskier78Harlaut snow apperal. Pants and jackets quality are shit af for the price you have to pay.


recommend your alternative $185 snowpant that is better quality than harlaut lol
3 years ago
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xonskier78
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Farmville420recommend your alternative $185 snowpant that is better quality than harlaut lol


Lead Fabrics >>>>> Harlaut apparel
3 years ago
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SlitherySnake
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Farmville420recommend your alternative $185 snowpant that is better quality than harlaut lol


r3evaluate
3 years ago
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skierman
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xonskier78Lead Fabrics >>>>> Harlaut apparel


I wonder how many of the people following the instagram profile of your child are pedophiles?
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Farmville420
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SlitherySnaker3evaluate

Look at my profile dog
3 years ago
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OFF3P
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KootenayRipper69Line skis. I had a pair of sick days maybe 4-5 years ago, decent skis but were thrashed after 4 days of skiing. Called line to see if something was wrong with them or if I could get a refund. Was told “they should look like you took a hammer to them around 3-5 days of skiing.” Haven’t bought anything from Line since.


now i'm on the fence because i see sick day 94's on evo for $325 and i'm torn if i should buy em or not.

**This post was edited on Oct 27th 2022 at 11:13:01am
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SlitherySnake
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Farmville420Look at my profile dog


just sayin they’re good quality for $180
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jompcock
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skiP.E.I.I had the same Caddys and they lasted 4 days before the edges started to separate from the base and sidewall. Tried to get them warrantied and they said there was 'rail damage' and therefore the warranty was void. I hadn't hit any rails on the skis yet at that point. My head boots also developed a crack that spread from the toe buckle across the whole toe box. One of the power straps ripped in half and the pull up straps on the backs of the boots both ripped off.
A few years later I had a job managing a snow school and the head rep was suddenly interested in helping me out. I explained the prior situation. I was told they would hook me up with new skis and boots, but they completely flaked on that too.


I didn’t even try to hide that I’d hit rails on mine. Just said a rail had never made contact with the area the edge had started ripping out near the tail. Honestly you’ll find better warranty support with a smaller company. Treating customers like shit hurts small brands a lot more than it would hurt a company like Head or Volkl.
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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My first thought was reckoner 102 but looks like people beat me to it.

For me, I haven’t been too stoked on my Volcom pants. Had them for a few years but the zippers give me all sorts of problems. It’s extremely annoying. They get cut up more than my other pants too
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b_in_subtle
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BradFiAusNzCoCaMy first thought was reckoner 102 but looks like people beat me to it.

For me, I haven’t been too stoked on my Volcom pants. Had them for a few years but the zippers give me all sorts of problems. It’s extremely annoying. They get cut up more than my other pants too


Dude same, I have a pair of bibs and the pockets suck, caused me to have to hike up a run at mammoth because my phone fell out on last run. Also ripped the boot gators in a weekend.

maybe I’m just rough on my gear.
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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I have ripped my zippers too. They’re totally unreliable
b_in_subtleDude same, I have a pair of bibs and the pockets suck, caused me to have to hike up a run at mammoth because my phone fell out on last run. Also ripped the boot gators in a weekend.

maybe I’m just rough on my gear.
3 years ago
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JChockey22
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Any ski That is built in china
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Craig114
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c-friesIs the line hate here mostly referring to top sheet damage?

Because I’ve owned multiple pairs of line skis and tbh the only unusual problem early on is top sheet stuff. But never anything functional (sidewall / edge damage / delam) in 4-5 days of skiing.. that seems a little aggressive


I think its just a thing people on this site have heard and like to repeat. I see a lot of old line skis kicking around on the mountain and mine have always held up fine. But then again maybe quality control isn't great at such a large scale and I've just been lucky?
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Schoess
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skiermanI wonder how many of the people following the instagram profile of your child are pedophiles?


LOL ruthless
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